ColeIsCorky

October 30th, 2023 at 11:23 PM ^

True. But when you work as hard as guys like Dabo do with a history of high performance, it’s ok to show a little pride in your efforts every now and then. Humbleness is important but sometimes in leadership you need to stand your ground and fight while showing a little confidence in yourself and your team.

We have a bunch of couch internet tough guys in our society who talk like they’re something and criticize those around them but have worked hard for nothing in their life. Dude said something he’d never say to Dabo’s face. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people like Dabo who are this much in the limelight, have one really tough year, and hear from people all over criticizing all the hard work he’s put in. Don’t necessarily love Dabo but I appreciate a man who works hard in life and can empathize with him dealing with jokers like that guy.

berto714

October 31st, 2023 at 8:29 AM ^

Yea, this. Should he not be impressed with himself? What he's done at Clemson is pretty impressive. And this is coming from someone who hates the guy.

This idea that we're supposed to be humble all the time is really kind of boggling. It's ok to be happy with and tout your achievements, you worked hard for them (this goes for anyone).

Perkis-Size Me

October 31st, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^

I mean....from an on-field perspective.....shouldn't he be? 

Yeah, he may be on the back-end of his prime at Clemson, but two national titles, six straight CFP appearances, I don't know how many NFL draft picks and ACC titles....I'd be impressed with me, too, and we'd give anything to have had that kind of run at Michigan. We're hoping to get our first title in nearly 30 years this year. Dabo got them two titles in three years. 

But like the NFL, college football is now very much a "what have you done for me lately" kind of business. Is that right? Certainly up for debate, but that is the business Dabo has chosen. 

I understand his frustration with some of the fans, but man I gotta tell you, if you don't like it, there are plenty of other jobs out there, ones that pay a lot less, but ones that afford you a lot more understanding with a lack of immediate results. This is the scrutiny you're going to get when you make the big bucks so......

Michfan777

October 30th, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^

While understandably frustrated at the asinine question, Dabo really does have a massive perpetual stick up his ass about everything, and his weird blurred lines of being a footbawl coach/preacher is extremely annoying. 

Wolverine91

October 30th, 2023 at 11:16 PM ^

Uhh he’s absolutely right. This wasn’t a meltdown, this is called putting some stupid people in their place. 

Amazinblu

October 31st, 2023 at 10:16 AM ^

On a bit of a tangent - who do you think Bama will go after to replace Saban?

My view is - he's rotated, really - moved, coordinators in and out with a lot of frequency.  So, to me - there doesn't appear to be a "head coach in waiting".

It seems to me that Dan Lanning is the guy Bama would go after.

Dabo is 53 years old - which, in today's society, isn't "old".  Liepold (who I greatly respect) is 59. DeBoer (at Washington) is 49.   Lincoln Riley is 40 - and the perfect fit for Southern California - flash, but not a ton of substance on D.  Lanning is 37.   

My view is - Lanning is the most impressive young coach in college football today.  Of course, having Nike / Knight NIL in your backyard doesn't hurt either.

mooseman

October 30th, 2023 at 11:19 PM ^

Obviously a guy frustrated with his season.

A simple "We're having a down year and none of us are happy about that but I think my record speaks for itself." Would have been more graceful. 

WayOfTheRoad

October 30th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^

Dabo is a fake, sanctimonious clown but he didn't say much wrong here or "snap" like I've seen ot portrayed by many.

I know a few Clemson fans and exactly none of them have a decent sense of reality with their team at the moment. It's a bad year for them but while I don't like Dabo or his methods he has earned one bad season.

NIL neutralized their main advantage and they were caught with their pants down. Also lost some successful coaches that they replaced with less talented coaches. I'd bet that gets corrected on their end, if I were a betting man.

I expected him to just go off after hearing so much about this the last hour or so and that was mostly a fair reply on his end. I won't comment on the actual question regarding his salary but as a fanbase they became incredibly spoiled.

FrankMurphy

October 30th, 2023 at 11:48 PM ^

He's a goofy dude, but I wouldn't say he's unlikeable. Supposedly, his assistant coaches love working for him and people like being around him.

Also, his story is pretty impressive: he had a rough childhood with an alcoholic father and was the first in his family to attend college. He's an underdog kind of guy. Gotta respect that.

Durham Blue

October 30th, 2023 at 11:56 PM ^

It's the love-hate relationship we have with coaches these days.  One bad year and fire everyone.  Hell, we did it not too long ago.  People are greedy and they want everything.  It's probably one of the reasons why they pay these guys make so much money now.  It's a thankless job unless you're winning.

Tex_Ind_Blue

October 31st, 2023 at 12:20 AM ^

Dabo definitely sounds sanctimonious. Yeah, he can expect appreciation, but cannot demand it. He achieved a lot. Kudos to him. Yet, that doesn't absolve him from being answerable to his real employer, the tax payers of South Carolina.

 

SC Wolverine

October 31st, 2023 at 9:02 AM ^

All true, and that certainly was not what we would call a deft handling of the situation.  But 95% of what he said was dead on accurate.  In comparison, I hated the questions asked of Harbaugh yesterday, but he just let it roll off him.  Perhaps that's what a bit more experience does.  JH has had his press conference moments, too, not none of them are recent.

Hensons Mobile…

October 31st, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^

Dabo has plenty of experience, come on.

The differences are:

Personality in general. Harbaugh’s “moments” have never been rants.

Harbaugh is dealing with an NCAA issue. Not a 4-4 season.

Biggest difference: Dabo was taking a long, antagonistic question from a fan on a radio show. It wasn’t a press conference.

Tex_Ind_Blue

October 31st, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^

I see both sides here. The caller could have been more respectful to someone who brought a moribund program into the national limelight and kept it there for longer than a decade. There has to be great work ethic and hustle to achieve that. No denying that. So the person who leads that effort is asked a question like that, he would get upset. 

On the other hand, when you are given the most money in the state (I haven't checked, but I don't think SC have another state employee earning more than Dabo) and NOT curing cancer, people will ask you questions! For a lot of folks, football and other entertainment are coping mechanisms. They would ask you questions if their enjoyment falls off from their expectations. One can't hide behind "I did this for you" to them. 

UNCWolverine

October 31st, 2023 at 12:58 AM ^

Most coaches are pretty phony, Dabo is the absolute worst example. Piece of crap said he’d quit if players got paid, then fucking quit you clown. Meanwhile harbaugh fights for satellite camps and players getting tv profits and he gets raked over the coals by every non Michigan fan and most of the media. Absolutely absurd. 

Tex_Ind_Blue

October 31st, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^

I am still waiting for him to quit. But he makes too much money I suppose to walk away. Most fanbases are more concerned about their own team's success rather than the good of the players. I am obviously generalizing. Thus they will oppose anything that might eat into their domination. 

I am eagerly awaiting OSU's downturn. It's coming. 

tigerd

October 31st, 2023 at 8:29 AM ^

People were ready to run Jim out of town for a couple bad seasons so to think good coaches don't have bad seasons is delusional. Everything he says in this diatribe is right so this is petty and a non story.

SC Wolverine

October 31st, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^

All the Dabo hatred is curious to me, but it helps me to understand the also curious Harbaugh hatred around the country.  Dabo is an incredible guy with an amazing story.  He does so many things right (although this meltdown wasn't one of them!) and is a positive, caring person.  He also is public about his faith.  Most of all, he is super passionate and shows it.  All of these things are just like Harbaugh (though JH has a much more impressive overall record).  People love to hate Dabo, and I guess it's for similar reasons that so many people love to hate Harbaugh.

I live fairly close to Clemson and am surrounded by their fans, so I get a pretty heavy dose of Dabo.  He can be a goober for sure.  But to hate a guy like that, well, it's as crazy as all the hate for our wonderful head coach.  Sports really brings out the worst in us as well as the best.

M Ascending

October 31st, 2023 at 9:43 AM ^

Dabo, and other self-aggrandizing Christians, who use their Christianity for self- promotional purposes and to explain away and forgive their own shortcomings ("I have sinned but God has forgiven me"), should keep this golden rule in mind:

"Keep the Bible in its place,  in your heart not in my face."

I truly believe that faith should be personal and not used as a sword or a shield. 

Michfan777

October 31st, 2023 at 10:08 AM ^

Harbaugh is just kinda awkward in interviews (not a bad thing) + he came back into the world of college football with insane hype not seen by many coaches outside of maybe Nick Saban in 2007. Because of that, I think the media turned on him a bit when he wasn’t getting to the CFP/beating OSU. Him winning back to back conference titles, getting to the CFP, and clobbering OSU is also why until the past week or two that the media started to really soften up on Harbaugh imo.

People dislike Dabo because he comes off about as genuine as Joel Osteen, and always has a stick up his ass about something - but at least he was winning at a crazy rate from ~2015-2019. Now that he is success has come back down to earth a bit in recent years, more and more people are tiring of his act.

Winning cures all.

Hensons Mobile…

October 31st, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

Many people who are devout Christians view the borderline proselytizing as a good thing and either don’t understand that others could view it negatively or don’t care, or don’t think that’s a reasonable position. But it is part of the reason some people dislike him.

The main reason, though, is that he won a lot of football games at not their school.

That is also the main reason people don’t like Harbaugh. Harbaugh also has some other personality traits that are very endearing when he’s your team’s coach and very enraging when he’s not. But he’s not at all like Dabo to me.

St Joe Blues

October 31st, 2023 at 9:20 AM ^

Tyler might want to find some Nebraska fans and get their thoughts on what can happen when you turn on a good coach. Since the Huskers jettisoned Bo Pelini and his 67-27 record, they've gone 43-59. Because, you know, averaging 9.6 wins a season isn't as good as the 4.8 wins/season they've had since?

BTW - If you're on X and aren't following @3YearLetterman, you're missing one of the all-time great troll accounts.

Buffalowing Blue

October 31st, 2023 at 9:23 AM ^

You know the funny thing is a few weeks ago Dabo threatened to lose games to weed out the "bandwagon fans" since he doesn't like them criticizing him.  Since that comment he's lost 2 in a row and now it looks like he's purposely throwing games after that ridiculous comment he made.  He's about done at Clemson because not only is he losing like crazy right now, but he mocked the fanbase. 

Amazinblu

October 31st, 2023 at 9:27 AM ^

People need to be accountable - and, IMO - that is "age specific".   This leads to a question - when do you stop treating teenagers like big kids - and treat them like young adults.

I'm thinking of Clemson's practice facility.  And, is the nature of that facility to help these student athletes become accountable young men - or - to treat them like "big kids"?

Clemson made a statement - and, Dabo was very involved in the design and creation of their football facility.  It has weight rooms, conditioning, etc.   It also has - sand volleyball courts, a basketball court,  fire pits, bowling alley, putt putt golf, a slide (so players don't have to walk down a flight of stairs), and a nap room.   Does this help these players become accountable adults - or - does it just continue the coddling touch many have received because of their athletic abilities?  My view is - it's the latter.

I realize the commitment student athletes make to their sport / program is huge - regardless of the sport.  However, it's also the responsibility of the staff to help them be successful academically and prepared for life when their playing career concludes.

Chris S

October 31st, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^

I think a sand volleyball and basketball court help promote kids to play more than one sport, which seems to be good for football. And the nap room probably helps promote kids to rest more than they are probably used to. I have a tough time seeing them as a negative. Even bowling and golf might not be all that pampering. A slide... eh, you got a point there. But I'm sure it's easier to blow that out of perspective when they're losing than it is when they're winning.

UMAmaizinBlue

October 31st, 2023 at 9:31 AM ^

Dabo is unhinged when challenged, like some other coach to the south. Maybe he and his whole program should pray on it cuz it sounds like he's harboring a lot of anger and resentment inside.

"Amen!"