Facebook post from Freshman UI OL Brady Feeney's mom after he contracted COVID
Intense Facebook post here from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana freshman OL Brady Feeney. pic.twitter.com/Ula5lBQfO2
— Sam Blum (@SamBlum3) August 3, 2020
Seems like if there is a season we're going to have to get used to a lot of this kind of thing.
That's awful. I pray he recovers and can have a long and happy life.
And yes, WEAR A DAMN MASK.
Was in Traverse City this past week and while most people were wearing masks and doing so properly, there was that minority who either refused masks or did the "token" mask wearing. You know the type - mask below the nose, mask so loose it doesn't sit on your face, there was even a girl wearing a mask with a cutout for the nose, and then the kid with the neoprene mask with ventilation holes. SMH
I have had to correct people in stores who leave their mask below their nose. Sorry, but unless you have a real problem, take it from someone with a real problem and wear the mask correctly. Otherwise, and many of you have undoubtedly seen the meme, it is indeed like letting your schlong hang out of your underwear and you certainly wouldn't walk around with that being the case, right? Those people irritate me to no end.
I've heard it's the equivalent of wearing a condom on your balls.
Tried this once during a striptease. Got kicked out. No conception.
Ok, guilty as charged. But I have glasses and don't buy contacts so I can't see anything because of the fog that my breathing creates. What's the fix?
Push the strip tighter against your nose and your cheeks under your eyes!
As a fellow glasses wearer I make sure my glasses are on top of the mask, and I've also used a strip of paper towel just under the top of the mask to absorb moisture. I hope this helps!
The paper towel or facial tissue thing definitely works. This is also why N95 masks often have a strip of foam over the nose.
This is most effective if you have a mask with a metal nose clip/strip thingy (technical term). If it's just a loose mask, then it still helps, but not as much and isn't as comfortable.
August 3rd, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
Get some of that Rain X anti fog stuff.
August 3rd, 2020 at 11:24 PM ^
My neighbors had a huge party this weekend. Not a single mask in the entire group. Not even the old man with the walker.
Most importantly is to always social distance.
This is true, however while indoors, or if you can't properly distance outdoors then masks are critical. Indoor air circulates, and the virus floats on airborne particles. Indoors? Wear a mask. Outdoors and can't maintain at least 6' distance? Wear a mask.
That sucks and bodes very unwell for an school openings this fall
Hoax! Not possible for a young, healthy athlete to be significantly affected by the China virus, and everybody knows it.
I'm rich and my wife is a 10, btw.
Great message from Brady’s mom and a respectful plea for all to be responsible. No blame given. I hope the young man makes a full recovery.
I can't tell if this is poorly-timed snark or you're serious.
I read it to be the former.
7-23% of Covid patients have myocardial injury.
Death rate alone does not paint the full picture of this disease
My wife is a visiting nurse in Queens who sees discharged COVID-19 survivors every day. She told me a couple of weeks ago that about 20% of her patients recovering from COVID seem to have heart issues. Young people, in their 20s and 30s, who can barely walk weeks after 'beating' the virus.
Was just talking to a friend of mine who is an ER doc in LA and one of the most common things she's seeing now that she's never seen before: strokes in people under 40. Weird, weird pathology, but the most risky co-morbidity looks to be hypertension.
If I could get through to people on anything besides masks, it would be to adopt a blood-pressure control lifestyle of weight loss and dietary changes (not just caloric, but lower salt). If Covid-19 is a fire, the hypertension seems to be the dreaded backdraft.
Yes, that's come up to. My wife is visiting a couple in their late 30s in Astoria, both of whom had the virus, the wife is ok, the husband had a stroke. They're both overweight and have hypertension.
My little cousin had a stroke. She's 34 and is in great shape. No underlying health issues.
I thought it was more of a respiratory illness. Perhaps it’s more of a blood vessel disease?
Yeah, that's been a hot topic of contention since a couple months back. Good discussion from this article in May:
“All these Covid-associated complications were a mystery. We see blood clotting, we see kidney damage, we see inflammation of the heart, we see stroke, we see encephalitis [swelling of the brain],” says William Li, MD, president of the Angiogenesis Foundation. “A whole myriad of seemingly unconnected phenomena that you do not normally see with SARS or H1N1 or, frankly, most infectious diseases.”
“If you start to put all of the data together that’s emerging, it turns out that this virus is probably a vasculotropic virus, meaning that it affects the [blood vessels],” says Mandeep Mehra, MD, medical director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Heart and Vascular Center.
August 3rd, 2020 at 10:20 PM ^
I read a few articles several months ago on statins and how they may be protective because they treat inflammation in the blood vessels. I haven't heard anything since, though. Would be great if they could be in the arsenal -- cheap and readily available.
August 3rd, 2020 at 11:07 PM ^
That's exactly part of the protocol my doctor is using to control inflammation, along with ACE inhibitors for blood pressure, and a baby aspirin. There is one other therapy he has prescribed for a few of his patients, including me: a peptide called Thymosin Alpha-1. It's used for other viral diseases, and it boosts T cell regulation and differentiation. A few peer reviewed studies in Italy and S. Korea are showing very good results as a prophylactic and early-cycle therapy for Covid-19.
The other things are more supportive, including diet, fitness, sleep, and managing stress.
It's really a systemic disease with potential long-term consequences all over the body. While the lung scarring is not as frequent as originally feared, particularly compared to SARS, the diffuse and unpredictable effects suggest we are going to have millions upon millions of people with lingering or even permanent health damage. One of the least talked about: chronic fatigue (not to be confused with CFS or ME as a specific diagnosis).
Here's a good recent review from a reputable source:
The list of lingering maladies from COVID-19 is longer and more varied than most doctors could have imagined. Ongoing problems include fatigue, a racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, achy joints, foggy thinking, a persistent loss of sense of smell, and damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys, and brain.
The likelihood of a patient developing persistent symptoms is hard to pin down because different studies track different outcomes and follow survivors for different lengths of time. One group in Italy found that 87% of a patient cohort hospitalized for acute COVID-19 was still struggling 2 months later. Data from the COVID Symptom Study, which uses an app into which millions of people in the United States, United Kingdom, and Sweden have tapped their symptoms, suggest 10% to 15% of people—including some “mild” cases—don’t quickly recover. But with the crisis just months old, no one knows how far into the future symptoms will endure, and whether COVID-19 will prompt the onset of chronic diseases.
Wouldn't some of these symptoms be expected of people who spend extended time on ventilators? I.e., are some of the cognitive impairment issues in part due to the extended treatment, in addition to the virus?
The lung scarring is more closely related to ventilators, but many if not most (from what I can gather of the data) of the people with chronic effects were never on a ventilator. Many evidently weren't even hospitalized for the acute phase of the disease, which is particularly worrisome.
Many of the symptoms listed in the article are closely related to inflammatory responses triggered by the immune system. My doctor has been emphasizing testing and prophylactic care to know and manage inflammation for several years. It started from his specialty in heart disease, stroke, and diabetes prevention and treatment, but it's very applicable to Covid-19 as well. To date, not a single patient of his has been hospitalized for the disease.
/knocks-on-wood
By the way, I showed him your Neck Sharpies series. If you're interested, he'd love to have you on as a guest on his weekly radio program here in Michigan on WJR.
I've read were there are instances of a myriad of possible residual conditions after a recovery, but this is terrible. I had no idea this was the % of long term heart conditions. I really hope he fully recovers and it shows what the inherent risk is to other kids and their parents.
MLB isn't looking so great either. Looks like the grand sports experiment may be confined to a bubble.
Myocarditis isn't typically long term. It's also not at all uncommon. Per the Mayo Clinic:
"Many viruses are commonly associated with myocarditis, including the viruses that cause the common cold (adenovirus); COVID-19; hepatitis B and C; parvovirus, which causes a mild rash, usually in children (fifth disease); and herpes simplex virus."
Since mild cases rarely have symptoms, it goes largely undiagnosed. It's just that we're giving more people with covid MRIs than we've ever given virus patients before.
This isn't to downplay this aspect of covid-19. Just to put it in context. Which admittedly brings to light some of the dangers of other viruses that we usually don't attribute back to those virus because we don't test for them and haven't studied the effects of them all that intently. It's quite possible that many ailments with unknown causes like strokes and heard attacks may link back to viruses.
I’ve linked an article on a small study that looked at both patients who had been hospitalized and those who had relatively minor bouts of covid. They found: ““Our findings demonstrate that participants with a relative paucity of preexisting cardiovascular condition and with mostly home-based recovery had frequent cardiac inflammatory involvement, which was similar to the hospitalized subgroup with regards to severity and extent,”
For anyone who doubts heart issues are both real and prevalent, you should google: covid, myocardial. While there is a fair amount of redundancy (because often multiple stories will reference the same study), there are a number of different studies raising very similar concerns. A number of them echo the point above, this isn’t just in the worst cases or in those with pre-existing heart conditions.
Has there ever been a virus with such variety of effects on people? Seems like there are so many different symptoms and so many patients have different reactions.
Many viruses have a broad range of effects. Human immunity can be an odd thing. It may be more pronounced here though because we don’t have prior exposure, so we’re really dependent on our immune system to pull through.
August 5th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^
And the immune system itself can create even more problems when it kicks into overdrive and starts attacking everything in an undifferentiated way. See "Cytokine Storm"
GOD SPEED. That is horrible.
CANCEL. THE. DAMN. SEASON.
I'm not trying to say that having a football season is more important than than the lives of those involved. I'm just not convinced canceling the season will make a bit of a difference.
Well cancelling the season would keep roughly 80-100 individuals from gathering every day for several hours to initiate physical contact and breath heavily on one another. Seems logical to me.
This is assuming outside of football activities they are keeping themselves in a bubble.
I doubt their outside of football activities include gathering for physical activity with large groups of people for several hours every day.
I've said this before, I go to a local high school multiple times a week and I regularly see groups of 30+, sometimes more like 50, young adults gathered in physical activity for several hours.
And that's not even counting the parties that will be going in if they don't cancel school.
would keep roughly 80-100 individuals from gathering every day for several hours to initiate physical contact and breath heavily on one another.
Why is this so difficult for some?
Because people care more about football than the people playing it.
Because "some" people care more about football than the people playing. I didn't like those "some" people before COVID anyway.
August 3rd, 2020 at 10:03 PM ^
Hi Timmmaay!
That part's not difficult for (hardly) anyone.
What is difficult for some to understand, I think, is that policy decisions ought to be made at the margin and after weighing both costs and benefits. At the margin means thinking about the next thing that you do, for example the next hour of labor you work or the cost of the next potato that you buy. In this case, thinking at the margin means considering what is the cost of the next practice. If the kids aren't getting together at all anyway, the cost of the next practice could be huge. It's an enormous risk. But if the kids are getting together all the time anyway, then the cost of the next practice is pretty minimal. As a teacher, I assure you that the kids are, in fact, getting together all the time anyway.
I will add that when weighing costs and benefits, we must always be careful to consider both what is seen and unseen, as per Bastiat's famous essay. In this case, the medical costs of covid are easily seen. The kid who is beaten because his dad isn't distracted by football is unseen. Also unseen are things like the cure for ALS that doesn't get discovered because the researchers are at home and barred from the lab, or the high quality seeds that never fly to Algeria because the planes are grounded.
These covid policy decisions aren't easy decisions, at all.
August 4th, 2020 at 11:00 AM ^
Ok but your unseen costs don't show any unseen benefits. How about the dad that spends his Saturday playing outside with his kids because he isn't distracted by football?
"I'm just not convinced canceling the season will make a bit of a difference."
It may make a huge freaking difference to university attorneys looking down the road at questions of liability and insurance company payouts.
I'm not going to neg you Blue, but you've gotta be kidding me....These are kids who are participating in full on contact drills in the middle of the summer and then going back to their tiny ass dorms, small apartments, or shared housing all while the general student population is running around town acting like normal 18-22 year olds. And news flash. The football players will be right there in the thick of things acting like normal 18-22 year old college athletes w/ the general student population.
These football players are NOT in a bubble.
edit: ok, I'm going to neg you.