September 28th, 2019 at 9:15 PM ^
What was Georgia thinking not giving Fields the starting job last year? Fromm is good, but Fields is elite. OSU is lucky to have him, particularly with immediate eligibility. He makes them a CFP team. I would say Michigan has a chance because.... rivalry.... but it really hasn't been a rivalry the past 15 years.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^
Kirby smart is an oxymoron apparently. Like French war heroes, classy cooler poppers and modest 1980 Michigan fans.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:48 PM ^
It might have been a system thing. I haven't a clue as to what kind of offense UGA runs. Perhaps OSU's elite offense is just a better fit. It sure seems to be the case. Not that I give a shit about the most overrated award in sports, but Fields will be a finalist for the Heisman, along with Jalen Hurts.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Just a comparison:
In Michigan's best game this season, by far, Michigan led 24-0 at the half at home against a terrible Rutgers team.
Meanwhile, tonight OSU is leading a decent Nebraska team 38-0 at half-time in a hostile environment on the road.
I can't see any way that Michigan beats OSU in November, barring some major injuries to OSU.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^
I can see UM winning.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
I also think Iowa will easily beat Michigan because Iowa beat MTSU by more than 30 points and Michigan only beat MTSU by 19 points. Just like how Michigan beat PSU by over 30 by 2016 and PSU beat OSU, and then voila Michigan beat OSU in 2016.
/s
September 28th, 2019 at 9:39 PM ^
But Iowa only beat Rutgers 30-0 at home a couple weeks ago where as we beat them 52-0. There. I just evened the playing field.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:30 PM ^
I can see UM winning.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^
Tattoogate was the best thing to happen to osu. May they all burn in hell after this life.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:50 PM ^
Yep. I have been saying that for years. It's insane. At the time, they got hosed, but in the long run, they benefited from it. That would happen to no other team. Of course it was OSU.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:20 PM ^
I f?ing hate ohio state so much.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:21 PM ^
Haven’t been able to watch the game but just saw the halftime score of OSU-Nebraska. For those watching: I trust that means Nebraska has been out-hitting OSU?
September 28th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
Decisively.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:25 PM ^
OSU will not lose a conference game this year
September 28th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
They use their freshman with no hesitation . Dax hill speed everywhere and they on th field
September 28th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
Looks like the Civil ConFLiCT trophy is staying in Orlando.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:32 PM ^
Nebraska needs to recruit players like Lawrence Phillips again.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:33 PM ^
As a coach, when exactly do you pull Fields out of the game?
September 28th, 2019 at 9:51 PM ^
I'm not watching the OSU game, but at 38-0, there is no need whatsoever to have any starter in the game. Why risk injuries? Games like that are a great time for your non-starters to get playing time.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:35 PM ^
Tressel and Urban never had the machine running this well- Day is an upgrade
September 28th, 2019 at 9:48 PM ^
I hoped Urban leaving might slow the train. Oh, well.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:49 PM ^
Way too early to say that. This program still has Meyer’s fingerprints all over it. How good of a coach Day is won’t be clear for a couple of years. Larry Coker started out 24-0 at Miami and ended up getting fired.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:53 PM ^
Stop. Day is not an upgrade of Meyer. This team would be doing the same thing with Meyer as coach. Day was just gifted an elite dynasty and lucked out with his first QB.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:55 PM ^
Meyer would have these "sleepy" days where he would do just enough to beat a weak team- and he got burned with Purdue and Iowa doing that. Day is wide awake (no pun intended)
September 28th, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
This could not be further from the truth.
Last year Ohio State's defense was, statisically, the worst they had ever fielded in the entire history of the program. Bill Davis, the best man at Meyer's wedding, was an awful LB coach that was never going to be fired-- after Day told him to get lost, Davis himself actually said that Meyer should have fired him two years ago.
Schiano had turned into a head case after getting screwed out fo the TN job and was trying strange, incomprehnsible schemes. He and the other defensive coaches were playing petty games with each other, angling to get credit so they could build their resumes.
Meyer had never fired a single assistant coach in his entire coaching career until he was forced to fire Zach Smith-- who in addition to being a slime, was also a terrible WR coach. There was 0.0% chance he was going to clean out the entire defensive coaching staff the way Day did.
Day may or may not turn out to be a great coach in the long run, but in the short term, this team is undoubtedly better than it would have been under Meyer-- by a large margin.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:37 PM ^
Ha. Fields is an “online” Buckeye. Is this common?
September 28th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
Who gives a shit. His profession is football. You think Barcelona gave a flying fuck if Messi went to class.
Thats Michigans and the entire USA's problem right there.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^
Then why bother caring about UM at all? If the whole "school" thing is a needless facade, just follow pro ball.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:28 PM ^
WHAT!? Is this real??
We are not really competing in the same conference.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:45 PM ^
if a team is up by 40+ points they should just ban official reviews and move the game on- I would love to hear an official say "after further review its still a blow out- play ball"
September 28th, 2019 at 9:49 PM ^
After further review I just can’t give a single fuck. Please subtract the game clock to end of regulation.
September 28th, 2019 at 9:48 PM ^
Nebraska is average at best
September 28th, 2019 at 9:54 PM ^
OSU looks better than Mich right now but look what North Carolina almost did to Clemson today. Michigan’s talent is not that much worse than OSU’s when compared to Clemson and North Carolina. Just have to have a game plan like in 2016 and 2017 and hope Shea can hit our receivers and outscore them. Maybe get a few critical stops.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:00 PM ^
Hoke was able to take Meyer to the last play of the game- its possible. But JH's teams don't seem to have the same spirit in them to outplay their rankings.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:32 PM ^
Spirit?
This isn't about Harbaugh. He can only accomplish what any great coach would do, within some very unequitable parameters.
Can we offer top players from other states to just take classes online?
I promise you'd see some improved spirit!!
September 29th, 2019 at 2:39 AM ^
The difference is that Clemson doesn't spend time every day of their year preparing for and obsessing over North Carolina.
September 29th, 2019 at 10:22 AM ^
you think our talent is "not much worse than OSU's?" hahahaha...ummmm okay.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:03 PM ^
we can all take heart with one thing regarding ohio - sparty visits them next week and i suspect ohio will put sparty in the wood chipper....
September 28th, 2019 at 10:04 PM ^
Plain nasty what is OSU is doing to Nebraska right now. Just hoping the Huskers put up a couple TD's before this debacle is over. Beat Iowa.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:05 PM ^
And the balloons head to the sky. Glad N scored.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^
Those people held on to those balloons 2 1/2 hours before NU scored. Yikes.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^
Its also gotta kill Husker fans that the Sooners have been doing so well the last 20 years
September 28th, 2019 at 10:13 PM ^
Yeah...it’s a drag that with all the shuffling of universities to new conferences, some all-time great rivalries are dying: Nebraska - Oklahoma, Kansas - Missouri, etc...it’d be nice if the powers that be enabled some of these games to take place again. They’d be huge for the alum bases.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:11 PM ^
OSU has speed at the RB position. UM needs some of that. It also doesn’t hurt when their QB is dropping dimes.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^
I am surprised more fans haven't left the stadium- I guess there really isn't anything to do in Lincoln
September 28th, 2019 at 10:18 PM ^
Let's be real here, it will take a lot to even hang with OSU, a minor miracle to beat them. But that's in like 2 months time. Let's take it game by game. Personally I refuse to let everything be defined by the game against that well-oiled machine.
And for what it's worth, OSU now is the result of a program that has run virtually uninterrupted for two decades. Their coaching changes weren't disruptive 'hostile takeovers' where one regime gets canned and replaced by an outsider with the job to tear it all down. Tressel's Youngstown State-style setup was almost certainly allowed to continue without many major changes. His canning was more NCAA appeasement than any kind of concession that he did anything wrong. Meyer came in and could work with a program that reliably has new top end talent from their preexisting pipelines pumped into it. Now Meyer again leaves on terms where the successor basically gets to just carry on with what was built. Much easier to keep a Ferrari on the road than to build a Ferrari out of a Fiat 500.
OU by the way also had a similar situation where Stoops handed the reigns to a hand-picked dude who basically just had to continue down the road that Stoops had already embarked upon.
What people need to understand is that if you fire Harbaugh because he can't beat OSU, you're creating an even bigger distance between us and them because you got another guy in who will start from scratch as it will most definitely be a hostile takeover.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:28 PM ^
I'm confused though, OU went 3-8, 4-8, and 5-6 the years before Stoops, and was pretty bad most of the 90s. How did he win so quick?
September 28th, 2019 at 10:36 PM ^
His offensive coordinator was one Mike Leach. Without simplifying it, but it's obvious Bob Stoops was a heck of a coach and had an excellent eye for coaching talent.
In general - without claiming this is how OU did it - I wouldn't be surprised if we all severely underestimate the sheer importance of a great set up for processing illicit payments and a finely tuned approach to keep the guys with zero academic interest or aptitude eligible. If you read the great book Meat Market about Coach O at Ole Miss, you really get the sense that there's a lot of stuff going on in the background of college football that you'll never hear about on ESPN but that's massive. We all know from the scandals that Tressel was huge on those things - and OSU never gave us any reason to believe that changed after he left.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:29 PM ^
I'm not advocating (yet....it depends on how the season ends) to replace Jim, but feel that Lincoln Riley would have this team performing like it did today all season long. That guy really understands the modern day offense.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:38 PM ^
There are three elite programs in the nation — OSU, Alabama, and Clemson. Oklahoma is 1b, close, but defense limits them. Alabama was historically great, then fell off, then were good, then got hit with sanctions and sucked. Clemson won one NC in the 80’s, got sanctioned, sucked and took a while to climb out. Only OSU has had almost no drop off from Woody’s elite years. Cooper’s inability to beat Michigan is all that Michigan has since the 40’s.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:33 PM ^
Pretty much this, however I think that Harbaugh has muddied the consistency of the offense. Each year there has been some form of offense overhaul via coaching change and/or scheme. It will take time before the Gattis offense even clicks and if it does he better be the coach in waiting or he is off to another school.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:34 PM ^
It seems you are missing something in your argument. What you need to understand is OSU fired John Cooper because he couldn’t beat Michigan...and now they are a top-5 team annually and have been for the past ~20 years. The juggernaut they have built hinges on their inability to beat us. Here’s the issue: They solved the problem, we haven’t.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:48 PM ^
It was more than that. OSU went 6-6 in 1999 and 8-4 in 2000. They had guys on that last team playing with 0.0 GPAs, which might have gotten them in trouble with the NCAA. If it had just been an issue of not beating Michigan, they'd have fired Cooper years before.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:56 PM ^
Cooper was there 13 years. It made a great story to say he got canned because he couldn't beat Michigan consistently, but dude also went 6-6 in 1999 at a school where that's even more of a death sentence than it'd be at Michigan and then the follow-up was a by their standards fairly lackluster 8-4. Of course, his record vs Michigan played a role because it meant he never had as much good will as a guy who went 62-12-1 over 6 years should have had..but it wasn't the only factor.
I will also point out that Cooper actually had five bad to mediocre years at the start at his reign and OSU stuck with him..which did allow Cooper to lead them to some excellent seasons later on including those near misses on the NC in 1996 and 98. When in doubt, stick with the guy already there and let him figure it out.
September 30th, 2019 at 2:12 PM ^
Cooper lost his job because he had several No.1 teams with a ton of NFL HOFers on it and never brought a Natty Home, plus bad bowl record (3-8)
...and he could not beat Michigan (2-10-1)
September 28th, 2019 at 10:38 PM ^
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. However, if things aren't working, then you have to try something different. Now, I'm not saying it isn't working (although, to be fair, I was on that ledge last week), and I don't want Harbaugh relieved (again, last Saturday happened and the ledge was aware of my presence). But if, for whatever reason, someone decides it isn't working, he would have to go.
Define what "isn't working" means to you. Figure that out, and if that bar isn't hit, then you must replace. There is no other way to achieve the goal, even if it means yet another step back before moving forward.
So there are plausible reasons to start new again.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:47 PM ^
What’s not working is Michigan. When has Michigan ever been better than OSU? OSU is the most consistently good football program of all time. We are their most hated rival, and all our goal run through them. Sucks, doesn’t it? But, Michigan has been searching for the OSU killer for a long time now. You guys all thought we’d found one in Harbaugh. After all, he himself once guaranteed a win and delivered, right? Well, he’s getting out recruited because Michigan can’t the best of Ohio’s recruits — like Woodson, Howard, Elvis, etc. Is someone else going to come in a magically change that?
September 28th, 2019 at 10:55 PM ^
Michigan leads the all time series 58-51-6, despite the series record since the mid-90's. Michigan also has more wins and a better all time win percentage. Go BPONE somewhere else...
September 28th, 2019 at 11:02 PM ^
I’m not BPONing ... I’m just “keeping it real” like you guys always do. Take away all the leather helmet years and whatcha got? They’re better than us at football. Simple fact. They’ve been better than us for decades upon decades. With a couple of years there we found a group of players who, despite annually losing to lesser talented teams, habitually, they found a way to beat OSU despite them being higher ranked. That was fun. I was there for all of them. But those days are gone.
September 29th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
Sten, OSU was a 9-3 football program from Earle Bruce's second year until Cooper broke them through in 93. Even then they couldn't win bowl games and couldn't beat us. How was Tressel able to reverse that in two seasons? Simple, he was the right guy.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
What people need to understand is that if you fire Harbaugh because he can't beat OSU, you're creating an even bigger distance between us and them because you got another guy in who will start from scratch as it will most definitely be a hostile takeover.
this ^^^ !!!
You think the gulf is big now?! Run him outta town and see what happens.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:28 PM ^
The hand-wringing and fawning over OSU is pathetic. They’ve (almost) always been better than Michigan since face masks were attached to football helmets.
I was around for the Cooper years and although fun, Michigan always dropped games to unlikely teams and finished 8-4 or something like that. One time, in 1997, Michigan had a complete team and a complete season. Once. Yet people in here act as if Michigan has always been elite, and because it isn’t is failing miserably. Maybe when Old 98 was playing, or when Yost was coach, or for a couple of seasons under Bo. When has Michigan ever recruited better than OSU? Almost never.
The delusion and self-loathing is pathetic.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:32 PM ^
Some of us are actually sick of having a disappointing football team while OSU has been extremely successful the past 17 years. Some of us expect more.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:41 PM ^
It’s been going on a lot longer than 17 years. Expect more all you want, but you’re going to continuously be making changes in the search for a dragon slayer that likely doesn’t exist.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^
Carr was 20-8 vs top 10. Won 5 big ten titles, a natty and beat several top 5 osu squads. Was 20-4 vs Michigan state and Wisconsin.
Michigan was a legendary program that sometimes dropped crap games but would more often than not win the big ones.
Congrats we can beat Rutgers and Maryland now lol. Nobody national cares. A walking punchline of a program
September 28th, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^
Wisconsin was horrible for most of Carr’s tenure, and MSU was not much better. Michigan was a legendary program in the 40’s and the beginnings of CFB. Carr was the beneficiary of Cooper. Once he was fired, and OSU again got serious about beating Michigan, the wins dried up, and then took away Michigan’s #1 source of talented players — Ohio itself.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:02 PM ^
Wisconsin was horrible? Ron Dayne and the Badgers who went 10-2, won the big ten snd the rose bowl? THAT Wisconsin was garbage. Who beat them? Michigan. AT Camp Randall.
Carr was 20-8 vs top 10 teams and you have no argument. Tell us whats Harbaughs record vs top 20 smart guy?
Carr has 10 victories better than Harbaughs best
September 28th, 2019 at 11:11 PM ^
How old are you? Wisconsin was the basement of the B10 for years — they were almost always Michigan’s homecoming game.
Carr coached in a different time, when MSU and Wisconsin weren’t threats, and PSU was just entering the B10. You’re comparing apples to oranges, smart guy. Carr did great against OSU, until Cooper was fired, and then HE ushered in the fall that Harbaugh dug us out of.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:21 PM ^
Lol i dont need to be 50 years old like you to know who Ron Dayne is. I dont need to be 50 years old to know PSU was a top 5 program when they joined the Big Ten.That Carr would regularly schedule top 15 programs to start the year whilst still play ND every year.
You sir have no heart. You are comfortable and make excuses for mediocrity.
Meanwhile Harbaugh is wiping his ass with 9 million dollars worth of excuses.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^
So much heart you won’t answer my question.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:33 PM ^
You sir have no heart. You are comfortable and make excuses for mediocrity.
I’m not making excuses, I’m simply saying Michigan has always pretty much been a bit better than most programs but only occasionally better than the one program that ALWAYS stands in our way and is our measuring stick. You’re the one who seems to be up in arms (and pathologically jealous) and advocating yet another change in the hope that this one will finally be the one that will make us better than the best program in the nation historically. That’s not an excuse, that a fact. Michigan has had no consistent answer for OSU since Cooper was fired. Not Carr, not RR, not Hoke, and now not Harbaugh. Even Bo wasn’t great against them. What does that tell you?
September 29th, 2019 at 10:05 AM ^
What the fuck are you talking about? Wisconsin started to turn it around in 93 when they went to the Rose Bowl...two years before Carr started coaching. They were an 8,9 win, and occasionally better pretty much every year. Michigan beat them in 98 Ron Dayne's Heisman year and 2006 when they went 12-1.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:54 PM ^
Carr went 5-1 against John Cooper and 1-6 against Jim Tressel.
The truth is, OSU has been humming at a really high level since 2002 and it's been tough for Michigan to keep up. There have been a few years where we were comparable with them on paper going in (2006, 2016, 2018) but almost never - other than 2011 - better. And whenever we're comparable, the Game always seems to be in Columbus.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
You're spot on. But this is where the divisional split hurt us too. But you're right about carr. He led us to multiple big ten titles. Asking for that isn't too high of a bar.
One thing Michigan will need is luck and help from other teams. Basically the big ten will need more chaos for Michigan to ever get to b10 championship game. It is unrealistic to think michigan will get to 11-1 in the current b10 divisional set up.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^
Asking for that isn't too high of a bar.
You’re right, it’s not too high of a bar — it’s always the bar. But, when reaching that bar requires that you go through a much tougher division than the last time Michigan was winning B10 titles AND the most consistent program of the last 20 (or more) years, its imperative to have some perspective and understanding of the actual situation, not some idealized version of it.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:29 PM ^
now THAT was embarassing
September 28th, 2019 at 10:38 PM ^
Wyoming up by 30. Alright
September 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
The Cowboys are pretty darn good this year! They bummed me out losing to Tulsa last week, but I think they can get to 8 or 9 wins. At San Diego State in 2 weeks will be a telling game in that regard. Wyoming hasn't won 9+ games since 1996.
I sort of love late-night MWC football. Hawaii is another MWC team that is looking pretty darn good too. Whooping up on Nevada (the same Nevada that beat Purdue). Just ran a fumble-rooski that gained 30 yards. It's also hilarious seeing Hawaii completely bundled up as it is 36 degrees in Reno.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:39 PM ^
When eSPN picked you guys to win the B1G.....the Buckeyes no doubt posted that shit all over the locker room.
September 29th, 2019 at 7:28 AM ^
I wonder if that's true this year. I'm sure there was some eye rolling when Michigan won the preseason B1G led by September Heisman winner Shea Patterson, but I really hope Day puts the emphasis on where it needs to be: Alabama and Clemson.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
The banner in the weight room says “Get to Indy”
September 28th, 2019 at 10:39 PM ^
Only hope Michigan has against OSU, would be for the offense to improve every week, where we are scoring over 40 points a game against good defenses. OSU will score plenty against our D. They almost look like a pro team playing against college teams.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^
That was a fucking demonstration of talent and will. I sincerely hope UM can perform like that in the games and years ahead. Ryan Day is not fucking around. No doubt, he has a chip on his shoulder to prove his success is not simply because of Urban.
September 28th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^
Okudah was a top 10 overall recruit. I think he was ranked ahead of dpj or really close to him. He’s just been behind on the depth chart waiting for his chance and developing because osu recruits extremely well year in and year out. Imagine having a top 10 kid behind on the depth chart because you recruit that well every year. This is why osu is a natty contender. Baron browning another top 20 kid in that class is also a backup olb!
September 28th, 2019 at 10:52 PM ^
Same for the WR’s.
New WRs in 2020 class: Fleming (#3 player in the nation) mookie Cooper, Jax Smith, and Gee Scott are all in bound. All top 100 nationally.
With Garrett and Williams already on the field as freshmen.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:38 PM ^
And OSU got the #1 WR out of Texas again this year. But recruiting doesn’t matter, just ask MGoBlog.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:03 AM ^
Recruiting definitely matters, and they’re kicking our ass in that capacity, which is why they’re kicking our ass on the field, and it been that way for decades.
Remember Tressel’s “Lock Box” on Ohio. It was real. Before that Bo, Mo and Carr were able to get (some) top players from Ohio to come to Michigan — two Heisman winners. This is decidedly NOT the case today nor since the mid 2000’s.
People can complain about Harbaugh all they want but the game is Jimmy’s & Joe’s far more than X’s & O’s. They’re better at every position, and when we’re comparable in spots, but they’re deeper — just like Alabama. Recruiting elite players is not easy, but it’s simple at OSU — they can fall out of bed and have an elite class year in and year out. That’s that dragon that we must slay to even win our fucking division.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:15 PM ^
Right now it feels like we'll need a lot of luck to beat them this season. Fuck.
September 28th, 2019 at 11:52 PM ^
Sporty headed to the shoe for a late Night massacre?
Chapman dialing it up on 97.1
September 28th, 2019 at 11:56 PM ^
OSU is going to beat the piss out of them. I can’t wait to see Dantonio’s face.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:44 AM ^
Chapman sucks. I would rather hear nails on a chalkboard than that turd.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:10 AM ^
I know we all follow our recruits and love recruiting. We’ve got some big time elite level guys on our team. The biggest difference though is OSU stacks them up. There’s just a huge difference between getting an average of 2-4 top 100 guys a class and getting 10-12 of those. And when they stack those guys up class after class there just a big talent disparity.
So OSU has like 8 top 50 players on their defensive 2 deep. Offense is crazy too, next season they have a chance to have 8 starters who are 5 stars. They just stack those guys up. And the biggest position of recruiting disparity might be O Line. They’ve got 5 star Offensive linemen stacked up whole our only 5 star O Lineman graduates in the Spring.
And these are composite 5 stars, not just guys who might have a 5th star on 1 of the 3 services, but be further down in others.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:17 AM ^
To underscore your point - there are starters at Michigan who probably wouldn't make the practice squad at OSU.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:25 AM ^
That’s silly, but I do think you’d have trouble finding 4 of our starters who could start for them.
September 29th, 2019 at 12:50 AM ^
Took me a bit but DPJ, Bredeson, Vert, and McKeon. Not much outside them.
September 29th, 2019 at 1:04 AM ^
And everyone of those there’s an argument to be made. I was thinking maybe Hudson, but not McKeon.
September 29th, 2019 at 1:39 AM ^
An argument could definitely be made for Hudson but I just didn’t know where he would fit. McKeon gets more touches than Farrell and more experience. That’s why I went there. Either way that is troubling that only 4 or 5 could start.
September 29th, 2019 at 10:33 AM ^
I honestly don't think DPJ would start, he doesn't have elite speed or the ability to get elite separation against elite DB's
September 29th, 2019 at 12:41 AM ^
Never heard it put that way before but "stacking" up recruits is exactly what they do. Their depth is off the charts. Gotta laugh when someone mentions that OSU loses all kinds of starters after the year. Who cares ? they have reserves ready to step in that would start at any other B1G school.
September 29th, 2019 at 1:24 AM ^
“Stacked liked cordwood” is what they say about Alabama’s talent, and OSU isn’t far behind that.
As was said above, it’s the OL, and I would add the QB recruiting as well. Michigan was once a OL and QB factory and that abruptly came to a halt in 2007 — and was diminishing before that.