FBI busts Massive exam ring
This story is insane and apparently involves everyone from college coaches to Aunt Becky.
The plot involved students who attended or were seeking to attend Georgetown University, Stanford University, UCLA, the University of San Diego, USC, University of Texas, Wake Forest, and Yale, according to federal prosecutors.
Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-uncover-massive-college-entrance-exam-cheating-plot-n982136
Press conference about the story scheduled for 11:30am EST.
If you have money you go to USD
If you have brains you go to UCSD
If you have neither and are an alcoholic you go to SDSU
And Brady Hoke went there twice!
$25 million in bribes is an extensive fraud. Sounds like some Yale father was offered the "assistance" and took it to the FBI. The sting was to trap the Yale women's soccer coach who was taking bribes and also recruiting other coaches to join the fraud ring. To the Yale father informant, the Yale coach demanded $450k ... $4k as a deposit was made to the coach by the FBI. Once nabbed, the Yale coach has been helping the FBI broaden the ring and nail this thing.
There are going to be some very prominent people going to jail.
"Very prominent people" and "going to jail" are mutually exclusive.
"According to the Justice Department’s indictment, a college prep business run by William Rick Singer would create athlete profiles for kids — some of whom did not play sports at all — at the behest and payment from their parents. Then, with the alleged cooperation of USC senior associate athletic director Donna Heinel, the kids would be admitted into USC as athletes instead of as regular students.
Heinel has been charged with racketeering conspiracy as part of the wide-ranging indictment that also names actresses Lori Laughlin and Felicity Huffman. In addition to helping students get into USC as football recruits, Heinel allegedly did the same for kids positioned as basketball and crew recruits. Laughlin’s daughters were posed as crew recruits.
Per the indictment, Singer, identified as cooperating witness 1, told one of the defendants that positioning his son as a football player would increase the son’s odds of getting into USC by 90 percent thanks to Heinel’s cooperation. The son of William McGashlan was positioned as a kicker who would walk on at USC despite going to a high school that doesn’t have a football team.
The alleged scheme even went as far as photoshopping McGashlan’s son to make it look like he was a football player."
The US isn't sliding towards a banana republic, it's already there.
This is obviously very wrong. But I have a couple questions. What laws were broken? Why resort to outright bribery when you can just make a donation (to fund a building, etc.)?
ok, just saw that it’s racketeering which includes fraud and bribery
It's certainly against the public interest to use bribery and fraud to obtain something of value. Hard to imagine that it would not violate multiple laws.
They used bribery to hide what they were doing, buying admissions. While everyone looks at the $6 million figure, it could be that for most, this was cheaper than the donations schools would ask for.
that makes sense
In addition to RICO there are federal bribery statutes which prohibit giving (and accepting) something of value to public officials in order to influence an official act or decision, to committ fraud, or otherwise act in violation of their fiduciary/official duties. Not sure if those are cited here, but in the case of public universities it seems relevant. Just google "public corruption statutes".
Dirty
There's an elephant in this thread...no one can acknowledge.
Is it that the SEC clearly orchestrated the timing for the release of this scandal to take the spotlight off LSU and Will Wade?
that people erroneously assume black students are less qualified in spite of white/rich students being the biggest beneficiaries of systemic advancement relative to talent/credentials?
March 12th, 2019 at 11:18 PM ^
...you'd be correct. I'd included legacy students, aswell.
Not surprising at all. This starts at an early age, especially in youth sports, obviously on a much smaller scale. I remember my son noticing that my husband wasn't friends with all the other dads who were buddy-buddy with the coach who ran the travel program. He also noticed that their kids all played travel. I told my kid that earning your success is way better because you never have to question it. Parents get on that Keeping-Up-With-The-Joneses achievement treadmill and can't get off.
Same thing for me, my dad worked too damn much.
Finally got to have legit tryouts in Jr. High and made the A team.
My son worked his way up through the ranks of travel, and made the high school A team as a freshman. When he made varsity junior year, my husband finally befriended all the dads. At that point, my son had earned his spot with the coaches.
My fake test only cost $300 plus a handy
What a story, a bunch of Leftist Elite Parents gig the system by bribing to get their undeserved students into Schools they would not have been admitted to. I hope they all get serious jail time for such moves. One does not have to get into those schools (and not even UofM) to be successful in life, plenty of so called 2nd or 3rd or lesser schools put out fine grads with skill sets to succeed. In a secondary note if you really want to get into one of those schools and can't out of HS, go to Junior college or another school, ace it for 2 years and then transfer. I know of at least 5 young people who really wanted to go to Cal Berkeley but did not have the chops out of HS. They all went to Junior College, aced it and applied after 2 years for a transfer, got in and graduated. What is not known by many is that all those schools have varied levels of attrition so even 10% attrition on say an incoming class of 8000 means after two years that school is short 1600 and therefore can and will actively fill in with transfers. Obviously entitled elites parents on this event who felt they did not have to play by the rules others do. Again i will smile as this plays out to see the sentences, fines and jail time these parents get. Karma is a bitch but fun to watch when she strikes down those that don't play by the rules especially when they are elitist rich snobs.
Libs getting played here, the conersatives just make a donation. Isn’t that what Kushner’s family did?
March 12th, 2019 at 10:47 PM ^
How do you know the political leanings of all involved?
don't make everything about that, you don't know if it's 50/50 70/30 or 20/80. And if you did know, it's not relevant.
How do you know the political leanings of all involved?
Isn't it obvious? The scandal involves wealthy actors, who live near a coast, and finally, they're women. You connect the dots {rolls eyes}.
You're absolutely correct in suggesting that this isn't a left vs. right thing, but a wealthy vs. poor thing.
March 13th, 2019 at 10:44 AM ^
There's an inordinate amount of attention being paid to the two actresses. What's more shocking for those of us living in New York is that one of the parents was the Chairman of Wilkie Farr (a big law firm), and another was the head of a hedge fund. These people could easily afford the "let me endow a chair at your school, if you'll take another look at my kid's application" price. Instead, they wanted a sure thing and went the illegal bribery route.
What's more egregious is that these people took advantage of programs that were designed to assist people who needed help, such as claiming falsely their child was disabled, so they could get a private testing room with a paid-off proctor who switched answer sheets. Or running their payoffs through charitable foundations so that they could write off the "donations."
Dude, your president did the same thing.
There's an elephant in this thread...no one can acknowledge political side of this issue.
There are a million different ways to cheat in life, but very few ways to do the right thing.
ya, i think he photoshopped his head onto george mikan's body.
Someone from a more superior school tell me if I’m wrong here...but after your first two jobs out of school, does it really matter where you went?
It’s all about connections you make, opportunities your pursue, things you accomplish once you get into any school. Unless you’re a specialist of some kind?
Most of these students were going to have plenty of connections already. Rather than this being about their careers, I'd guess it was about status, perhaps especially for the parents.
well, for osu grads that would be mcdonalds than pizza hut. so possibly??
James Van Der Beek, err Mox, weighing in "Operation Varsity Blues."
Of the many alarming things about this, what sticks out to me is that none of the schools audited athletic their admissions. If you viewed athletic admissions over time, and tracked the programs individually, what happened would immediately come clear. (E.g., 85% of the admitted golf students played, but 45% of the water polo players did). Also, if you randomly selected any of the incoming athletic class for further review if they never played their sport, you would likely discover that some of them never played the sport (or that their high schools did not have the relevant programs, etc.).
USC admitted about two dozen fake athletes. One of their assistant ADs was involved, so she was in a position to cover things up one way or another. It didn't sound like the numbers were high enough at other schools to be suspicious. Plus, I'd think ADs are likely to trust their coaches explanations until they have reason not to.
March 13th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^
My favorite part of the indictment is where one of the parents is like “this is not going to work at Notre Dame or any school where people follow recruits intensely" https://t.co/RKC70uZryQ
— Jane Coaston (@cjane87) March 12, 2019
I think it's funny that nobody bats an eyelash that, cheating aside, some retard would get into some of those schools because they're really good at volleyball or crew. Like that's somehow a great admissions system. At least with football/basketball you get brand recognition and revenue.
Some of those schools are hard to get into with a 4.0 and high board scores so cheating on tests doesn't guarantee acceptance. Being a varsity athlete sets you apart from applicants with similar academic credentials. I wouldn't bank on non-revenue sport athletes or PWOs getting in without good academics. They were still cheating on the tests for the fake athletes.
This should have been released as a housewives of Orange county episode.
For the record, while I've gotten a laugh out of this whole situation, it is depressingly sad for a ton of people. Kids who got admitted who actually thought they did so on merit, the various student-athletes who now need to deal with the illegitimacy questions around their sports, and the numerous worthy students who got turned away so that the "social media influencer" daughter of someone from Full House could fuck around in college while getting sponsored by Amazon. It's terrible, and should remind everyone complaining about "we don't need to play athletes" that literally everyone else is getting a piece of the pie, even in sports that don't generate the income.
Also, for anyone claiming "this just shows how bad it's gotten" regarding athletics and academics, this has been going on for EONs. It was probably a bit better hidden/more socially ingrained so nobody noticed or cared, but this type of preference for the wealthy elites isn't new.
For the record, while I've gotten a laugh out of this whole situation, it is depressingly sad for a ton of people. Kids who got admitted who actually thought they did so on merit, the various student-athletes who now need to deal with the illegitimacy questions around their sports, and the numerous worthy students who got turned away so that the "social media influencer" daughter of someone from Full House could fuck around in college while getting sponsored by Amazon. It's terrible, and should remind everyone complaining about "we don't need to play athletes" that literally everyone else is getting a piece of the pie, even in sports that don't generate the income.
Also, for anyone claiming "this just shows how bad it's gotten" regarding athletics and academics, this has been going on for EONs. It was probably a bit better hidden/more socially ingrained so nobody noticed or cared, but this type of preference for the wealthy elites isn't new.
March 13th, 2019 at 12:26 AM ^
After reading the responses, many don’t understand the alleged scam (dirty instigators, coaches/administrators, cheating on ACT/SAT tests). Apparently, reading comprehension at Michigan must not be our strong suit.
/s
March 13th, 2019 at 12:56 AM ^
The comments on this matter verify the polls that indicate the most people only read or listen to headlines. They don't pother to read the article.
This story does raise some questions.
Were the students who's parents bought and scammed their admission actually unqualified? Michigan turns down about 80% of high school student applicants every year. Are all those kids unqualified? Is it good for a university to cull it's undergraduate student population via admission of only the extremely qualified?
If I am very rich and my kid is unlikely to gain admission to his private school of choice, why would it be illegal to offer that school big money (bribe) to have them educate the kid? Assuming everything else was above board and they have not cheated on grades, SAT, etc.
It's not illegal to offer a school big money in order to get them to admit your kid. It's not a bribe because you're not asking them to do anything illegal.
Peak capitalism
So one thing I have not yet seen in this thread is any reference to IMG and likely shenanigans for its student athletes.
I have to believe that Mark Riddle has been taking SAT and ACT exams for scores of IMG athletes. While I realize these athletes may be able to get into a school solely based on their athletic prowess, it does not hurt to have higher scores to qualify for enrollment to a better academic school.
As fucking pissed as I am right about this (My all-A daughter was declined at UT on a stupid technicality), if these cock gobblers avoid jail time by paying a stupid fine in a plea deal, I will be absolutely livid.
March 13th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
Former Michigan coach Bruce Berque is now the interim men's tennis coach at Texas after longtime coach Michael Center was indicted and fired.
September 16th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
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