Wolverine91

January 16th, 2019 at 4:03 PM ^

So how does he rank compared to other coaches? Can he have a bigger impact on our dline than mattison?

northernmich

January 16th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^

I have no idea what to think of this hire, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and think he will be alright.

samrad79

January 16th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^

pro's

former byu grad, that played in the nfl with poly background spells high potential as a recruiter

con's

below pep on 247 recruiting rankings, high 400's

asu was #65 on yards per opponent play, #75 on yards per opponent pass play and #54 on sack percentage

Mr Miggle

January 16th, 2019 at 5:09 PM ^

Recruiting to a service academy is not comparable. Even the rules are far different.

One year at ASU under a new coach is such a small sample. More relevant than his ranking would be how he comes across in interviews and his background. As long as he wants to be a good recruiter, he should do fine.

My priority would be that he's a good coach. DL is a big position group that relies a lot on technique.

Brimley

January 16th, 2019 at 5:31 PM ^

In Mr. Miggles' defense, I think he's saying that the service academy recruits are literally held to a different standard and as such, it's impossible to really compare recruiting there to other places due to the standards and obligations kids will take on.

Mr Miggle

January 16th, 2019 at 8:08 PM ^

It's just completely different. It may well be harder to recruit to Navy, but it's a different type of job.

First, the talent pool is limited. The entrance requirements are high and there's obviously a greater commitment required. It's cliche to say that recruits should commit based on the school, not on the coaches. It rings true with service academies.

Second, the 25/85 rules do not apply to service academies and they have taken some monster sized classes.. That lessens the need to be selective. A good thing since they only get a handful of 3* recruits and they compete in a decent conference.

The coaching does translate. In some ways it seems ideal. As you mentioned, they're undersized and have to rely on technique. Also there's a bagman free atmosphere and high standards for the conduct of the staff. You'd hate to hire a highly ranked recruiter only to find out he's used to cutting corners. 

RockinLoud

January 16th, 2019 at 5:18 PM ^

Specifically about players' standing on the depth chart related to injuries that might've caused some friction with certain players. Just curious because it seemed like something was up with the team in the last 1/3rd of the season. Thanks for any input,  I understand if you can't comment on the topic.

From Mr. Yost:

In addition, Harbaugh is a shitty communicator on almost everything...so HE may be benching you because he thinks you're a pussy and you should practice or play through being hurt because you're not actually injured...but he may not tell you. Now this is 2018, if you're an 18 year old black kid in today's climate...do you think it's out of the question you or your family may question if it's race if no one is being straight up? Especially when people are in your ear and undoubtedly there is someone who is going to mention it and make you think, even if you weren't thinking about it before. Again, Harbaugh has to know that's coming. 

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Mind you - in Harbaugh's defense, if you're a coach, you CANNOT say "I think you're being a pussy and you should be practicing and playing through this being hurt...and if you're truly injured, sit your ass on the bench and get out of my practice." That would be a disaster. So the communication never happens, minds wander, it's a fucking mess. In reality it's Harbaugh that's going to have to change, the kid in 2018, going on 2019, is not.

umbig11

January 16th, 2019 at 5:33 PM ^

Okay, I see where you are coming from now. Let's just say I know of one big fella that missed a lot of practice time and game snaps because he wasn't available to practice or play due to being hurt or injured. Some guys want it more than others. It happens every year though. it doesn't just happen at Michigan. Yost hit this one pretty well in your example.