Differences Between UM/Bama&Clemson
Yes, I know we have a game thread for the championship. This isn't meant to be based on the play by play happenings of tonight but rather the obvious differences that we see between the quality of our team (and just about everyone else) and these two teams.
To me, I think we actually have the skill set at the receiver position that would be about on par with both of them. I think our secondary from this year and Bush are obviously at this level. That being said, I'm not sure we'd have a single offensive or defensive lineman (outside of Gary) touch the field for either of these teams. The difference in size and athleticism jumps off the screen.
January 7th, 2019 at 10:31 PM ^
Clemson's classes are rated higher, and if anyone thinks that only 3 players are doping, well...
January 7th, 2019 at 11:41 PM ^
I think every player with NFL aspirations is cycling at least a bit. Including Michigan's players.
January 8th, 2019 at 2:16 AM ^
Wouldn’t that be most P5 players?
i think there is program abuse. Likely MSU. And programs with some hidden scattered users.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^
Clemson doesn't hire the OC of one of the worst NFL offenses.
January 7th, 2019 at 10:06 PM ^
And the ACC is total ass. Michigan goes undefeated in the conference schedule there too.
January 7th, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^
And still would get blown out in the playoff while Clemson is winning over Bama.
January 8th, 2019 at 12:39 AM ^
And the BIG isn’t ass?
Who is good year in and out other than OSU?
Penn State every 3 years?
MSU maybe?
Clemson would run the Big 10
January 8th, 2019 at 10:11 AM ^
Syracuse would've probably beaten us. Their offense would've exploited out defense like ever decent offense does
January 7th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
Uhhh...both offenses don't run it up the gut on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down?
Instead, they actually pass the ball?
And when they actually pass the ball, they don't do what we do which is pass to our big, slow clunky tight ends all the time but to actual 5 star recievers?
January 8th, 2019 at 9:08 AM ^
When Bama scored the TD on the play action pass from the half-yard line, was I the only one thinking, "If that's us, it would've been three straight FB Dives and FG attempt!"
January 7th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
Doesn't even look like the same sport.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:05 PM ^
The thread should end on this comment. Well done.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:00 PM ^
$$$$$$$
/s
January 7th, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
no /s needed, you do know Clemson has. a Ferris wheel right? 18-22 yr olds who like Ferris wheels and are freak athletes...
January 7th, 2019 at 9:00 PM ^
One of them had a scumbag traitor as a DL coach.
Regardless of the his colleagues that piece of shit should never be able to look one of players in the eye.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:07 PM ^
What?
January 7th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
He took a better job. End of story.
January 7th, 2019 at 10:41 PM ^
Sorry. I don’t see it that way. One minute your with Us the next your against?
It’s wrong on so many levels. It’s OSU.
Maybe I’m naive but I couldn’t do that to my team.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:01 PM ^
LOL...I didn’t even know the National Championship Game was on. I moved onto basketball after the Ohio State Game.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
But your recent history shows a LOT of football posts! In fact, you've been posting mostly about football...
January 7th, 2019 at 9:32 PM ^
Posting about Michigan sports and not watching crappy bowl games are not mutually exclusive. (Nonetheless, I don’t actually think you read my recent history very closely.) So not sure what your point is or if this is just a failed attempt at being snarky.
January 8th, 2019 at 9:31 AM ^
You sound like me.
Other than the Peach Bowl (obviously) I didn't watch a single bowl game this year. Not even to root against ND and Sparty (although I was very happy to hear they lost).
That's how much the Ohio State game kicked my ass. I just couldn't take any more football.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:02 PM ^
January 7th, 2019 at 9:02 PM ^
Vast
January 7th, 2019 at 10:01 PM ^
Grand Canyonesque
January 7th, 2019 at 10:02 PM ^
Grand Canyonesque echo echo echo
January 7th, 2019 at 9:02 PM ^
The difference? Everything. Absolutely everything.
But if you want to summarize it, we have stallions that our coaches opt to keep held up in the stables. Clemson and Alabama let their stallions run wild and do what they do best.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:03 PM ^
I still think Bama is the team we want to be. They don't look extremely fast to me, but every player is much more physical than their opponent.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Bama is very fast. Relative to Clemson they don't.
But I am telling you, Bama is faster than OSU. Those WR's on Bama are lightning quick. If they played Michigan, you would be talking about how fast Bama is
January 7th, 2019 at 9:17 PM ^
Bama is insanely fast.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:04 PM ^
it’s pretty well known that Bama has a better “strength and conditioning” program than anyone else. They barely even try to hide it. I mean, yes, they’re all 4-5 stars out there but that doesn’t make you THAT much bigger and stronger.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:15 PM ^
So true! Those Bama players look so much bigger than everyone else.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:05 PM ^
Here we go
January 7th, 2019 at 9:05 PM ^
Bama/Clemson each have about 6-8 more impact players. Their best players are 1st round draft picks who actually have the stats to back them up. They each have depth that's ready to contribute.
Oh, and, they each call plays like they're living in the year 2019.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Our OL has not been as good. Wasn't even average in 2017, really just average or a bit above this year. Makes a huge difference--no time for the deep passing plays to develop, which allows the defensive backs to clamp down on short stuff. Affects everything.
Our DEs this year were terrific. Our DTs this season don't come close to either of these two teams.
Harbaugh's playcalling philosophy this year is obviously considerably different from what Bama and Clemson do. Perhaps a better OL and a decision to actually alter the philosophy can change that. Who knows?
Oh, and Shea is good. Perhaps underutilized. But we might be watching the #1 overall picks in the 2020 and 2021 drafts playing QB here.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:55 PM ^
That’s the biggest thing I’m noticing in this game too. Our o-line is finally average but far from elite. QBs on both sides have actually have time to find open receivers.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Men. Legit coaches who know how to attack.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:34 PM ^
Agree. Except it doesn’t seem to be between the tackles manball. Maybe time for Harbs to re-eval.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:07 PM ^
UM lost a NY 6 Bowl. Alabama and Clemson are undefeated and playing for a NC.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:07 PM ^
Biggest difference is offensive line play. Even when these teams run on first down they get 7 yards. We haven’t had that luxury since Mike Hart.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:08 PM ^
Offensive line play is night and day better than ours
January 7th, 2019 at 9:38 PM ^
that is by far the biggest difference. our DL was also dinged-up the last couple games. that killed the effectiveness. lack of quality depth.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:08 PM ^
Men v Boys....we aren’t in that class at this point. OLine and Dlines for both teams would roll us.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:09 PM ^
Talent wise Clemson really doesn't look heads and tails above us at all. Our DE's, Cb's and LB group look better but they r significantly more talented at the DT spot and safeties are more athletic. Their O-line looks better than ours by a fair amount but coach W did a lot to close that gap and I would suspect being us even closer next year. Our WR group looks much more talented but their RB looks more dynamic. The largest difference is they let all of their talent run wild and make plays
January 7th, 2019 at 9:14 PM ^
Bama would be up 28-0 on us right now in this situation.
You can't watch Clemson play Bama and use that as a quality comparison to our defense.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:37 PM ^
I watched Clemson against Syracuse and BC also. From those games and this, Clemson is not significantly more talented, but yes more talented. However, clemskn really doesn't have a weak spot, unlike us. And Bama being up 28-0 is as much a coaching philosophy issue as anything which I stated in a previous thread and is one of our largest deficiencies for this year when u compare the 2 teams
January 7th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Your kidding right? Clemson has 4 first round defensive lineman, one is out actually, Ferrell looks better than Gary and winovich
January 7th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^
Its pretty simple. Both teams have better players and coaches.
January 7th, 2019 at 9:23 PM ^
Absolutely not. You put Gary and winovich in clemsons system, with their great DT's, and they would be phenomenal. That's not to say that Clemson doesn't have great DE's, but I give the notch, by a small amount, to Gary and Winovich
January 8th, 2019 at 2:47 AM ^
Absolutely yes, we have 2 players like Winovich and Gary. They each have multiple, and depth too.