December 29th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
This offense and program will go nowhere unless Harbaugh mans the fuck up and hires a creative OC and Jim leaves his hands out of it. Honestly, we can blame Pep and drevno and this person and that person but the buck starts and stops with Harbaugh when it comes to the offense. And Brown needs to look elsewhere also, CP will do just fine.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:08 PM ^
not trying to pile on the disappointment, there has to be some concern of players jumping ship and others looking to get out of their LOI. That performance from the coaching staff was... flat out bad. Without hyperbole, remincenit of a Brady Hoke coached team performance. Execution: bad, play calling and identification: bad, in game adjustments: bad, clock management: bad. It would serve Jim Harbaugh will to step up to the microphone in his post game presser and acknowledge that was not an acceptable performance and changes need to be and will be made. He needs to show that he is aware that this is not what his players and recruits signed up for, or I am really becoming concerned this thing is going to unravel. Unfortunately he’s put himself in a position where more of the same in 2019 is really going to hurt the program to a point where it may not be fixable.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:12 PM ^
Agree. If you're a recruit, not sure what wiggle room you have on your LOI though. At the very least, hard to see how the program will have much momentum in the 2020 recruiting cycle now until very late. This is a major show-me story and the benefit of the doubt is very much gone, in my opinion. On the other hand, I suppose we are going to really have players that want to be at Michigan and turn it around, so that's not a bad thing.
December 30th, 2018 at 1:09 AM ^
Yep, I'm honestly tired of Harbaugh's "captain obvious" answers during press conferences. I'm tired of the "I thought my team was ready" answers. I want to hear him take responsibility for these loses and show that he realizes there's problems with the team and that he's going to make changes. Idk if it's arrogance or ignorance from him but something has to change
December 29th, 2018 at 4:09 PM ^
I would just like to see the best athletes on the field, I do not care their age or experience. At some point the people on the field are not getting the job done, so if the players are not changing then the coaching is the issue. I realize the DL was at its max today, but the OT's got burned all game and not one RB could gain a yard or seem to make a cut to gain more. Best players are all out wide and can be game planned against. If the spine is weak the body will fall. The spine is weak for Michigan, especially on D.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
Seems like the majority of the fan base has turned on Harbaugh. He has done an excellent job in recruiting, and was spectacular in developing the team with Jake Rudock. But his fearless approach to the game seems to have left with Rudock. No real innovations to expose opponents weaknesses, Very conservative playcalling, when boldness is required. And the lack of a 2 minute offense is baffling. I think the old fiery Harbaugh was great. I wish he would come back.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^
Is it possible the staff just knows that the offensive line isn't as good as advertised? That 2015 line had Magnuson, Cole, Kalis, and Glasgow...all who got legitimate time in the NFL. Can you say the same about Runyan, Onwenu, Ruiz, JBB, and Bredeson? I think Ruiz and Bredeson probably...but seems like we are lacking on the outside and maybe that's why we don't get too creative on offense.
December 29th, 2018 at 7:22 PM ^
First year Wilton ran a pretty decent offense too. What happened? Pep.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
Pay Leach $5 mil/yr and give him complete control of the offense.
We need bigger and faster guys on defense.
Everything else is cream cheese.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YES
December 29th, 2018 at 4:41 PM ^
Can you provide me a list of the big games Mike Leach has won?
He’s funny, I get it. He’s never won anything
December 29th, 2018 at 5:08 PM ^
That's a valid point and in the end I'd agree with you that I wouldn't want Leach as coach as he's always had shitty defense and his air raid would struggle a lot more in the B1G with athletes and weather. But if you've been to Lubbock or Pullman you know that he's done a lot with backwater football programs that really haven't had any better success ever than what he has done. Would be interesting to see him at a location where he could attract more talent.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:14 PM ^
KC did just fine running Air Raid offense in a shitty weather. People always said the spread offense wouldn't work in the B1G bc they're a physical conference. It won OSU a bunch of B1Gs and Northwestern were ahead of its time by winning two B1G titles in the 90s. Purdue was good under Joe Tiller.
You see more NFL are trending towards college/HS offense that it trickles up. Saying that Air Raid don't work is nothing but shortsighted IMO.
Get someone from the Air Raid tree and install it in Michigan. They can be effective run team if they're committed to it. I wanted Kliff Kingsbury to Michigan because he has WCO experience but runs Air Raid offense.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:23 PM ^
Well, Air Raid or anything else. We NEED to score points against top 10 teams.
December 29th, 2018 at 7:49 PM ^
OSU's offense though with Barrett and Miller has been more of a run oriented spread than what WSU runs. But I do agree an air raid can be pretty successful, but I think you just need to have a quality running game too which Leach teams have not historically had. More open to an Oklahoma style offense where they have better balance and running than what Leach does. I'd take either over Manball.
I don't follow your point on KC since they've lost their last two games or on a longer-time horizon they're 1-4 in playoff games under Reid with the only win in Houston and 3 losses in cold weather. Might be different this year but jury is still out. But NFL is different anyway because they play all thru December and January and since college is all fair weather bowls during that timeframe.
December 30th, 2018 at 12:30 AM ^
KC lost both games because their defense is bad, not because the offense failed. The offense is the best in the league by a wide margin.
Oklahoma offense is Air Raid FYI. Lincoln Riley came from Mike Leach coaching tree.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:09 PM ^
Also no way in hell he goes from HC at a power five school to an OC
December 29th, 2018 at 4:16 PM ^
Jim can go to the NFL for all I care...4 years and we shit the bed....constantly
December 29th, 2018 at 4:58 PM ^
Well at least he's consistent.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^
Jim Harbaugh has been a total failure
December 29th, 2018 at 4:29 PM ^
Dax Hill is probably hating his life right now lol
December 29th, 2018 at 4:45 PM ^
Nah, he knows that he is starting on the first day that he walks on campus.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:36 PM ^
One thing I noticed: post game handshake or lack thereof. All this Michigan difference talk and Harbaugh can't even take more than a second to congratulate Mullens on kicking his ass?
There are other things to get on him about, which are relegated to actual coaching, but that was pretty ungracious and regardless of his competitive nature (which ought to be directed toward his own team), it was bush league and not becoming of someone who is supposed to be leading young men.
I know, I know, I'll get off your lawn now.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
He's pretty much always done that. I'm more and more certain that he can't be bothered with most of the niceties of the job if it doesn't directly impact him.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:11 PM ^
Are you kidding me? Mullen’s players were dancing some dumbass fad right at Harbaugh as Jim was trying to shake Mullen’s hand. Is he supposed to get kicked or just take the insult? Or did you not watch the actual field and see the disrespect by those players? They went right at Harbaugh with that childish shit.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:17 PM ^
Leaders and Best. Shake Mullen's hand, look him in the eye, act like an adult who is paid millions of dollars to represent the university.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^
Bullshit!!
I can now ignore all of your posts (many of which sounded reasonable).
The handshake is not a big deal. You're just piling on. I know what you're feeling. I am feeling pain too. But your post is pathetic.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:39 PM ^
LOL. Did you just give a 53 yr old leader of men an excuse to not be that man?
You are probably the same guy who says "They're just kids" and then in the same thought, forgot that.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:18 PM ^
That's not fair. JMFH was in a hurry to catch the team plane for South Africa.
December 29th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^
Coach is a weird dude. No doubt about that.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:40 PM ^
2-7 in rivalry games
O-4 in THE rivalry game
1-3 in bowl games
1-9 vs. Top 10
$7.5 MIL/year
This may give context to the arguments of 'We can't get a better coach' and '3 10 win seasons'. Gus Malzahn has beat Alabama twice and they want to run him out of town and even Tom Herman beat OU in his second season.
I feel quite a few coaches not named Hoke or RR could've achieved the above AND had better stats in the above games.
December 29th, 2018 at 6:53 PM ^
Fielding H. Yost is not walking through that door, Fritz Crisler is not walking through that door.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^
Shambles. Unprepared. Sloppy. Poor tackling. No energy.
I actually think JH lost his team in the 2nd half vs OSU and never won them back. They still looked tired & uninspired today.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:58 PM ^
He certainly lost half of his defense in the 2nd half of both games. Turns out teams aren’t as good when 5-6 guys aren’t playing. True.
December 29th, 2018 at 6:44 PM ^
Just like the OSU game.
Oh, wait...
December 29th, 2018 at 6:45 PM ^
That’s why the offense sucked and the quarterback looked lost.
Oh, wait...
December 29th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^
At a friend’s request: Don Brown is like an 80s porn star. He has a big schlong, one move, and once teams realize that they’re no longer intimidated by his slaps to the face.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^
This team is broken and I fear he lost them quite a few games ago. Here’s my guess as to what’s happening. The grind of Harbaugh and how hard he works them in practice all year with the hitting has taken its toll. Gary’s mom mentioned you don’t play at Michigan unless you practice (Gary was dinged up so couldn’t participate in hitting) which shows they go hard and it wears them down after long season hence awful endings.
I think Black felt like he lost his spot due to injury. Add in some players possibly unhappy with playing time like Ambry, Tarik, Solomon and then getting whipped again with an ice age offense and Harbaugh has a locker room problem. Half the team looked like they didn’t want to play. They didn’t play for Harbaugh and sure as hell not for Michigan.
The offense looks like they have no confidence they can pull off what is asked. Harbaugh has to look in mirror and make changes like both Saban and Kelly have to get to the next level. Just maybe, they can turn it around with the talent, but if next year resembles anything like this year, it’s game over for Jimmy.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:09 PM ^
THIS ^^^ When Solomon decided to transfer and his mom tweeted something about "it will all come out" or something. I had a sick feeling in my gut that Harbaugh was losing the team. I know I'm going to get slammed for this but I honestly feel really bad for some of the kids that just signed. This team is in shambles and it won't be fixed by a trip overseas for some "bonding", it won't be fixed with more practice. I lived in the Middle East for a long time and they have a TON of buildings that are just unbelievably beautiful from the outside. picture worthy, then you go inside and you feel like the building is going to come down on top of you. cracks in the wall, fixtures on crooked, things don't work properly, things are just off. This is Jim Harbaugh thru and thru. I don't care anymore about giving him another year. I want him gone and want us to get the best available person, Michigan ties or not. We need to shift off this paradigm.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:22 PM ^
Shambles? Come on man. I hated this display as well. Truly ILL.
That said, 3 win RR and 5 win Hoke were shambles. 3 out of 4 ten win seasons is far from shambles
December 29th, 2018 at 5:39 PM ^
Shambles is when you don't know where to go. Do we? The O state game gutted this team and Harbaugh should have been able to ( for what he is paid and "hailed as" ) get this team back on it's feet enough to beat Felipe F'ing Franks and the Gators but it looked like we were in the 5th quarter of the O state game today. I say it's in shambles because as I look at it I just really don't know which way we go. this was embarrassing of the worst kind. All the shit talking and all the revenge tour bs looks just like that B.S. all the transfers and parents with cryptic tweets about "it will all come out" or something like that. Patterson coming back just makes me nauseous. Yay we won 10 games but 10 games against nobodies.
December 29th, 2018 at 6:49 PM ^
Not shambles, but we don't beat anyone with a pulse. If Ohio gets the Fields kid we are looking at 3 more years of beatings.
December 29th, 2018 at 4:52 PM ^
I am a big conspiracy theorist so sometimes I latch onto things that aren't there but it seems the depth chart is handled in a peculiar way.
Black has been healthy over two months and barely gets any snaps while Bell keeps getting snaps while not doing much with them. Same for perry. Same for McKeon. Seems that when Eubanks is on the field he makes something happen.
Other bowls I watched this year they talked about players winning a spot in the month practice. It seems that the position is yours at UM until you get hurt then it is the person's behind them until they get hurt.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:27 PM ^
I think there is some truth to this. Hard to tell how much.
December 29th, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^
Harbaugh speaks of a "meritocracy," but I don't think that's what's actually practiced. I suspect it's based on a number of factors only Harbaugh understands. To the players, it looks arbitrary. Nothing will demoralize a team more than not understanding what they need to do to succeed.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:01 PM ^
Play calling being questionable is one thing, but the really inexuscable shit is the dreadful clock management at the end of the first half, which has been a recurring problem under Harbaugh and getting a delay of game after a change of possession. That is just infuriating. The fundamental offensive philosophy is outdated and is preoccupied with time of possession and body blows when the rest of the country realizes it is about generating as many points as possible
December 29th, 2018 at 8:58 PM ^
give pep a break! dont you see him kicking back in the press box ? it takes time to relay the play in...
December 29th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^
This game was destined to be a loss, what with JBB, Devin Bush, Higdon, and all the other NFL-er's sitting this one out. Is it fair to blame the coaches when they literally don't have the best players on the team? Also makes me wonder about the Ohio State game, and whether all those same players were just playing it safe, to avoid injuries, knowing they were leaving. Not saying they were; just wondering if that factors in mentally. Honestly, I'm not even sure why we play in a bowl under these circumstances.
December 29th, 2018 at 5:16 PM ^
Well they won't have all those guys next year so in a way this was a preview to trying to replace those guys next year with the offensive and defensive gameplans. And both sides failed horribly. Even without Bush and Gary this is still a mediocre Florida offense that was made to look like world beaters. The same Florida personal that a UM defense breaking in 8 new starters thrashed last year. And I know Ross/Gil/Paye, etc aren't bush and Gary but they are also guys who played significant time this year so they should have not have looked as lost as they did today
December 29th, 2018 at 7:14 PM ^
Paye & Gil were so lost that they were in the locker room with injuries.