November 1st, 2018 at 7:26 AM ^
Cowherd clearly can’t comprehend that Klatt agrees with Michigan’s current slot, but disagrees with their opponents’ rankings (which ultimately impacts Michigan’s final spot).
November 1st, 2018 at 12:03 PM ^
I just can't listen to Cowherd. It's impossible.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:37 PM ^
Good stuff. This should be required viewing for any college football fan.
November 1st, 2018 at 8:50 AM ^
You're absolutely correct. Thanks for saying that as I may not have watched otherwise and I'm glad I did. Klatt makes great points.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:39 PM ^
Can’t we just make it 8 teams. 5 auto bids and 3 at large. Is that so hard.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:43 PM ^
I see what you're saying but I don't like autobids b/c I think teams will play no one in the non-conference.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:56 PM ^
I think you have it backwards. An autobid means a team is NOT penalized for scheduling P5 teams out of conference. The current setup makes me wish UM played Toledo instead of ND.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^
Hell, if we had kept Arkansas on the schedule instead of buying the game out to schedule a second straight ND game in Indiana, that looks like an easy win over an SEC school this year.
November 1st, 2018 at 1:38 AM ^
How would that help though? We'd still be sitting at number 5 in the exact spot we're in now. We'd have zero wins against teams currently ranked so we'd definitely still be 5th) and that's with the loss to ND and assuming we'd have beaten Arkansas.
It was a no lose situation to play that game.
And had we won, we'd be sitting somewhere in the Alabama 1/2 range with the possibility of making it without winning the conference.
Plus, those games are way more fun for the playlers, coaches and fans. Schedule all the NDs and tough games all the time, plz.
November 1st, 2018 at 5:14 AM ^
The difference would be that if we won out we would be in no question. Right now if we win out we are probably in, but there are several scenarios where you can see the committee not putting us in.
November 1st, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
We also wouldn't be playing ND toward the back end of the B1G schedule next year while Bama is playing the blind sisters of the homecoming queen.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
True, but then big out-of-conference games don't mean anything. They'll lose their luster.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:15 PM ^
Polar opposite. If you're vying for one of those 3 autobids (with a loss in conference since you didn't win), you're certainly going to want to have a great non-con win on your resume
October 31st, 2018 at 11:22 PM ^
Not true. The at-large bids will go to the 3 best teams in the eye of the committee - you still have the incentive to win every game and look great doing so. If you don't win your conference you better be 11-1 with some strong wins.
You're also talking about D1 athletes, the most competitive people on planet Earth. No college football player is going to not care about winning every single game.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:55 PM ^
Wins and losses are just statistics.
/DF'ed
October 31st, 2018 at 11:08 PM ^
On paper, that is true. However, in football you need to save your bodies as much as possible and playing weak teams in the non-conference keeps you healthier and allows you to build more depth because you play more reserves in blowouts.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:53 PM ^
That's true. But that will be the case no matter what the playoff configuration is.
November 1st, 2018 at 1:17 AM ^
Not really, because with all selections being at-large, strength of schedule is important. With autobids, strength of schedule doesn't matter.
November 1st, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^
Strength of schedule will absolutely matter if you don’t win your conference. That’s the point. You schedule hard OOC games to win so that if you don’t win your conference, you have a tough schedule for the selection committee to take into consideration
October 31st, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^
November 1st, 2018 at 12:18 AM ^
You forgot Louisville...
November 1st, 2018 at 11:00 AM ^
All you have to do to find a counterexample is to look at college basketball. There are a ton more interesting intersectional games in basketball than there are in football, because each of those games gives you a chance to impress the selection committee with little real downside if you don’t.
A football Big Ten / SEC challenge would be epic, but there’s no way it can happen under the current setup.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^
This is the only good and correct playoff format for college football.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:14 PM ^
In a perfect world, the playoff is a flex thing that doesn't even happen most years. If there is one undefeated P5 school, they are champs. Two of them, have them play. Three of them, give the #1 ranked team a bye. If no undefeated teams, move to one loss conference champs under the same rules.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
This is one of the worst opinions I have read on mgoblog.com.
November 1st, 2018 at 7:49 AM ^
Worse than my opinions on Borges?
November 1st, 2018 at 4:21 AM ^
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGCfEWJ7ztMzZao/giphy.gif
Please explain how that in any way shape or form makes sense...
(side note: apologies for my gif link, trying to figure out how to directly post one without a link)
November 1st, 2018 at 8:03 AM ^
I’ve always thought the point of the season was to determine who has the best season. I’ve never considered it a matter of determining the best team, and I think that’s a silly goal with 120 teams over 12 games.
With that aim in mind, and considering college footballs regular season is special because it wasn’t about playoffs for 100 years, I’d hate to see this weird sport become just another version of every pro sport, where the playoff primarily determines who got hot at the end.
There will come a day when a 2-loss team will win the championship, maybe even beating a previously-undefeated team in the final game. That day will make the whole stated purpose of the playoff a farce.
November 1st, 2018 at 7:48 PM ^
What you just said is exactly why your idea of a "perfect world" doesn't exist. Literally EVERY major sport, professional and collegiate, have a playoff system. The CFP is only what, 4 years old? If you say when you have one P5 team run the table, then why would any team play a tough out of conference game? Clemson would sit on top of the mediocre ACC, and never play a legit out of conference opponent.
A team is being punished for having a tough schedule, and even a tough conference. Majority of teams don't hit their stride until game 3 or 4, hence why most schedule cupcakes up to that.
And personally, I'd much rather see a team get hot towards the end of the season and run the table with 2 or 3 losses, like you see in any college basketball tournament (different sport, but same argument), than a team that cherry picks their games to bask in an over fluffed undefeated record.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^
Yessssss. And make the first round a home game for the higher ranked team. Would love to see a 2 loss SEC team have to come play a game in the Midwest in December.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:53 PM ^
Yeah that’s good
November 1st, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
Dr.Mantis you are cracking me up right now. Perhaps an incidental charge, you're acting meta, as a committee member judging Mgocomments about the CFO system.
November 1st, 2018 at 12:28 AM ^
If you are concerned about weather (I would be in December/January outdoors) at least have it at a regional indoor stadium. UM/MSU could play at Ford field, something like that.
November 1st, 2018 at 10:50 AM ^
He's the opposite of concerned about weather - he's saying he'd love for Michigan to get to play an LSU or a Clemson in driving snow.
November 1st, 2018 at 5:57 AM ^
6 teams
Top 2 seeds get BYES
3 hosts 6, 4 hosts 5
That preserves the integrity of value to the regular season, with every couplet having extreme value over the one below it. No one with 1 loss from a power conference is going to be 7 or worse. If you are at 7, you had TWO losses and can’t complain. Also, home playoff games probably eradicates certain diseases because on-campus excitement would be absolutely incredible.
November 1st, 2018 at 8:02 AM ^
I agree with this, 6 teams, top 2 seeds bet byes, but no one gets a home game that’s not fair, just make them bowl games cuz that’s what is behind all this playoff is the bowls and the sponsors and money. If u had 6 teams everyone would get the conference champ and you then could put a 12-0 UCF in. So that’s why need a conference championship for every league and then u make notre dame join a conference
October 31st, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^
Well sure, next year, but guess what, no Chase, no Devin, we need THIS YEAR. I want to see what happens when the all world QB's from Clemson and Bama have no open receivers and two or three guys in their grill on every play, something tells me they won't be running up the score very easily.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:07 PM ^
Why? Do you think they won't just fill it with SEC and ACC teams?
October 31st, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^
Conference champion auto bids would completely invalidate the non-conference schedule. You could lose all 3 non-conference games and still make the playoffs. I don't want to see 3-4 loss teams making an 8 team playoff.
November 1st, 2018 at 12:08 AM ^
You're right. We could end up with playoff teams playing a non-conference schedule of Louisville, Arkansas State, ULM, and the Citadel. How could that be allowed? >.>
November 1st, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^
That would be such a rarity, plus it adds to the enjoyment of the playoffs. Also, there would still be 7 other teams including 3 at larges, which the potential runner up could grab.
November 1st, 2018 at 1:55 AM ^
I'd rather have a 10-3 big champion with ooc losses to bama, clemson, and oklahoma get in than an 11-1 bama team that doesnt win it's division and loses the only game against a team with a pulse.
November 1st, 2018 at 12:25 AM ^
P5 autobids: yes.
Need one or two paths for G5 and independents. Then remaining one or two bids for at-large.
November 1st, 2018 at 1:14 AM ^
No. Please don't do this. The Game was a de facto round of 16 playoff game in 2016, it likely will be again this year and hopefully for many years to come.
If 8 teams get in, that will often not be the case. You might even start to see a situation like the NFL where key players sit out because the teams have already "clinched" as would have been the case in 2016. Can you imagine guys sitting out The Game to prep for the playoffs? It would likely happen.
Do not, do not, do not do this, please. It'll diminish the best regular season is sports (this side of the Atlantic ocean).
November 1st, 2018 at 4:56 AM ^
People said similar things about a 4 team playoff during the BCS days. You know what actually devalues the regular season? Allowing a team a shot at a national title despite playing one good team all season, and losing that game. Bama was given an undue benefit of the doubt twice now. Once in the old system, once in the current. So it doesn't much seem to matter.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:42 PM ^
I would most definitely agree that the ACC in particular is incredibly overrated, and the scheduling for the SEC also plays into these rankings to an almost unfair and overrated level.
That being said, several of the Big Ten teams are not performing at the level expected going into the season with some bad losses along the way which is not helping perception.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:43 PM ^
I know nobody really cares much about the bottom of the top 25.. but how the fuck is Iowa State #24? a 4-3 team should not be ranked.