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Fee Fi Foe Film: Michigan State Defense 2018 Comment Count

Seth October 19th, 2018 at 10:07 AM

Previously: The Offense, MSU's defense last year

Resources: My charting, MSU game notes, MSU roster, Bill C profile, CFBstats

Michigan State runs a…

Lemme guess: a match quarters defense.

Yes, which…

squeezes the linebackers inside and plays their safeties super-aggressively against the run.

Right, and this…

stifles outside runs, but opens up deep passes behind the safeties who are not super-athletic. But they get away with that because the quarterbacks they face are either butt, or playing in a rainstorm, or suddenly become butt when they're playing Michigan State for no reason, or just forget they're allowed to throw.

I feel like you're read this before.

They return 10/11 starters from last year. Also I have been living in this state this millennium. Do they have a Bullough at middle linebacker?

Yes, but he's not starting. Instead there's a guy named Joe Bachie…

…who can cover multiple A gaps and won't stay blocked, so you don't want to run at him, and anyway their DTs are excellent at squeezing those gaps shut, but they're also built to stop all outside runs so it's either run over Bullough…

Bachie

…Bachie or throw over the safeties, which we can't do because we have a Big Ten quarterback who can't hit wide open bombs?

Dude, Shea is GREAT at wide open bombs!

Oh? What's the forecast on Saturday?

Rain, but only from 12 to 3pm.

So Dantonio just has a deal with the…

interim president of Michigan State University, John Engler.

eo nomine.

The Film: PSU-MSU again. Michigan's not a Speedy Eaglet offense (and yes, we're sore about that), but it was always going to be this game. FWIW the officiating atrocities didn't quite even out but Penn State won back a lot of OL tackles.

My diagram:

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[after THE JUMP: same story, same names]

These are mostly the same guys as last year, though now that they're older they're less cyan-y. There's also a lot of families. The Panasiuks are not pass rush threats though DT Mike Panasiuk is an excellent 3-tech against the run. NT Raequan Williams is long-armed and impossible to keep blocked because of it. WDE Kenny Willekes is an Order of St. Kovacs walk-on and I'm done showing him disrespect.

Say, did you see PFF put Willekes ahead of the Gaz for 1st team all-B1G?

Nope nope nope nope nope nope. Done.

Even though they're the only spot that graduated a starter, the linebackers are again the strength of this defense. You can argue whether MLB Joe Bachie or Star (#hybridspaceplayerterms) Andrew Dowell is the better player this year only because Dowell is unquestionably one of the best players in the conference this season. New guy SAM Tyriq Thompson is still learning and still rotating with his spring competitors, mostly Ann Arbor native Anjuan Simmons. They also have a Uche/rush specialist in OLB Brandon Boyer-Randle who's 4th on the team in TFLs despite limited snaps.

Both of last year's starting cornerbacks against Michigan are injured. Field CB Josiah Scott is out for the season, but CB Josh Butler is listed as questionable and could return to the rotation this week. Boundary CB Justin Layne, a 6-3 converted receiver, passed both of them last year—he's a superb tackler, but plays too far off and gives up the most completions of anybody on the team by some margin. In Butler's absence they've been running out sophomore DB Tre Person, who's listed as a safety and kind of plays like one despite being very corner-sized.

That brings us to the safeties. FS David Dowell has finally seized the starting job back from the athletically limited S Matt Morrissey, but remains the nearest thing to a sore spot on this defense, and giving him help has opened some cracks in other places (I'll come back to this in the overview). SS Khari Willis would take an entire article to fully describe. He is the avatar of this defense: spectacular against the run, and spectacularly lucky he hasn't given up 30 TDs the last two seasons from getting burned over the top. PFF has him all-B1G along with the crazy Maryland guy. Color me skeptical. And respectful. Respektical.

Base Set: They're still that same 4-3 even  or 4-2-5 even (depending on whether you call the Star a safety or a linebacker) team they've been for over a decade. A quick refresher on the nomenclature:

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Their pass rush package this year is a 2-4-5 that subs out the DT and SDE for pass rush specialists and the SAM for last year's other starting safety (Morrissey).

Man or zone coverage: They're still mostly Quarters, but the cornerbacks play off a lot more this year. They go to a Cover 3 defense (and their other formations) a lot more on 3rd and long.

2018 MSU vs PSU FORMATIONS   SAFETIES   RUSHERS
Situation 4-2-5 2-4-5 3-3-5 1-high 2-high 3 4 5 6
Normal Downs 38 - - 7 31   20 13 5
Passing Downs 15 7 2 6 18 2 16 3 3
Total 85% 11% 3% 18% 82% 3% 58% 26% 13%

Pressure: GERG or GREG: State would rather send four and have one or two linebackers activate quickly on run action, but they blitz more than enough to keep you wary. Quarters mostly locks the four true DBs into coverage, and the way State plays it they can do without the Star in coverage, and you get so used to the MLB and SAM hanging out in short zones that when they blitz you don't have any targets in the space they abandoned. They still have that dreaded A-gap blitz, and brought back the A&C gap twist blitz that you've probably forgotten and Gardner's ribs never shall.

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I should note when I count rushers I will put "4.5" for an LB who comes in spy, and "4.9" if both LBs are coming down and making contact with OL, even if they're not fully rushing the passer. That's why there's a discrepancy between the graph, which shows full rushers, and the averages, which includes blitzy linebackers. Michigan State and Wisconsin have the same aggressiveness against the run with their fronts, but MSU's pressures are going to feel a lot more like Northwestern's.

Dangerman:

Middle linebacker Joe Bachie emerged last year as the latest centerpiece of a defense that's designed to make life hard on the middle men in order to concentrate firepower outside. Bachie was a little more protected last year and wracked up every kind of stat. This year he's being asked to deal with a full Bullough load, and MSU's #1 rush defense is a testament to how well he's handling his role. A play like this doesn't do anything for his stats:

#35 the linebacker between the hashes

At no point does Bachie leave his lane, overpursue, or give the tight end an opportunity to do anything about him. Making Sanders bend is enough. The rare times he's given a simple read he can still end a game by himself.

#35 the middle linebacker

He's been able to play a little bit more on the edge because the Star is a full-fledged star now. Andrew Dowell has cleared up the coverage issues that plagued his early career and that has made him all the more effective as a blitzer. Pro Football Focus named him one of their all-B1G linebackers, along with Bush (duh) and a Minnesota OLB/DE they shoehorned into an LB spot because there are so many Edge guys in the conference this year. They focused on his backfield work.

Andrew Dowell, Michigan State

Week 7 overall grade: 80.0

Much like his counterparts here, Dowell has had a strong start to the season in coverage and when rushing the passer. On just 18 pass-rush snaps, he’s been able to record six pressures and he’s limited receivers in his coverage to just 4.1 yards after the catch per reception allowed.

Often he's the guy, after Bachie and co. have done the corralling, to make sure when contact occurs it doesn't go further.

#5 the linebacker splitting the hashes

And while I might have some words about The Gaz left, I can see what PFF is seeing about Kenny Willekes as an edge defender. Here he is playing both sides of a Power Read:

#48 the DE on the bottom

The tackles are both excellent. Raekwan Williams was the lone bright spot of 2016 and has now reached most of his ceiling as an unblockable freak messing up everything you want to do in the middle. He doesn't get a lot of penetration, and he's not an immobile planet. He's perfect for zone defense because he just won't leave his gap and won't let you have any space in your next one. If you double him now you've got two mostly useless guys sliding across the formation:

#99 the second guy down on the D-line

I forgot to capture a Mike Panasiuk clip so here are my notes on him from this game:

  • Panasiuk+3 both sides, squeezes gap forces cut into himself. Great play.
  • Panasiuk+2 shoots inside OT and gets TFL himself
  • Panasiuk+2 again inside OT, held (h) gets Sanders off balance tho. A.Dowell+ was there if no stumble

OVERVIEW

We've been here before, haven't we?

We have. Did you clip a Double-A Gap Blitz?

I knew you'd ask

They ran it twice. PSU picked it up and attacked the flats.

Ah, like old times. Anything new to add, or is this exactly the same team—plus a year, minus a linebacker—we saw last year?

Yeah I wanted to discuss Willis, and this play in particular:

This is a bust. You can see Bachie waving his arm before going to the frontside gap so that #28 (Jon Reschke, who didn't last long in this game) knows he's got to fill the abandoned gap. But Reschke is still on his first job: preventing a quick seam and a good route from that tight end. That tight end has Khari Willis over him too, and in the past Michigan State has trusted their safeties to just handle this with minimal buzzing from the linebackers. This example is an extreme but they're protecting Willis in coverage more than they have in the past, and that is opening up tight end outs and—on occasion—gaps up the middle when Bachie's responsibilities stretch him too far.

The reason they're doing so is also clear in that clip: Willis is not fast. He's not even Kovacs. He knows his game, and he doesn't miss on tackling, and that makes him very valuable to this defense.

But the help in coverage he's getting is pulling guys away from other jobs. CB Justin Layne (#2) is usually on the same side as Willis, and might have earned a dangerman tag for his tackling, but I counted five instances in this game of 1st down grade passes underneath him as he bailed too deep. After compiling things I wondered if that was really on Layne, or was he back there because of Willis?

Don't take Penn State coaching decisions as gospel, but they tended to run a lot of plays at him. Most got shut down as the system churned those into tosses to the flat, and with State leaving all of its defenders facing the play on 80% of downs, anything going outside is asking to dodge a cavalry regiment. McSorley was way out of sorts in this game—MSU didn't make him trip himself on 4th and 4 when a lane for the first down opened. And history suggests that going over the top of MSU's pass defense is just asking to be added to the file of missed receivers.

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But somebody's got to be the regression to the mean. Maybe it'll be you.

Comments

Mgoczar

October 19th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^

MSU defense is good, but this FFFF is making them into Bama. Yet again. 

If M takes down MSU, can we get some non-bpone articles ? This is a bit too much. 

Mgoczar

October 19th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^

Yea I read it but it begins with TERROR! I mean come on. Stop shitting your pants. Have some confidence. My issue is it makes all of our opponents look like Goliath. I get it, good opponents but MSU has been good. When they beat us they were more good than lucky. Now it's more "oohhh they are way too good, we won't be able to do shit tone". 

I think this comes from previous overconfidence (like last year) and now it's overcorrection under #BPONE. 

Folks forget that last year MSU scored only 14 on M. It was crappy offense that undermined the team. MSU may well score 14 again but hopefully M scores over 20.

bronxblue

October 19th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^

They are a good team, and have a good defense.  But a lot of the trepidation comes from the name on the helmet.  They look a lot like Minnesota in terms of rankings on offense and defense, and my guess is this place wouldn't be as worried if they were playing the Gophers tomorrow.

dyoder

October 19th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^

Yup. This fan based seems traumatized.

We're still up 30+ games all-time. It barely qualifies as a rivalry. They're on a nice little run because we did a(n overdue and necessary) reset after Carr retired.

They're still little brother—and a creepy one at that—and always will be. We have the better team, coaching staff, talent, program, and university. They have a good defense.

I'm hoping for a beat down if only because maybe it will be cathartic for people (and because they're fun), but if we somehow don't win, it's not some kind of harbinger of doom.

I know, I know, prove it on the field, yada, yada. We will, in time, I am sure. In the meantime, I hope maybe people can stop and smell the roses—er, uh, that was probably the wrong metaphor …

:goes back into hiding:

A State Fan

October 19th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^

DL: The strength of this D, I have really liked Mike Panasiuk (the bigger older one) his whole career. Both the DTs are excellent and keep Bachie blocker free often. My one concern is that they don't really get a TON of pressure just with the front 4. I really like Bouyer-Randle on the edge in passing downs. He causes a lot of disruption. (also, he has to be bigger than his listed size, when I'm at the games he really stands out on the field) 

LBs: Bachie is basically a Bullough, better than Riley, probably a little worse than Max. Great between the numbers. Not as fast as Bush, but aside from that everything you want in an MLB. Surprised you starred Dowell, I've considered him a meh LB, but maybe that's last year affecting my thoughts on him this year. Opposite them, Thompson and Simmons have been vulnerable on those short passes to the flats, but good otherwise. Reschke has played a ton more than I thought he would this year, but hasn't been as dominate as he was pre-you know (he was probably headed for all-conference honors before an injury in 2016)

DBs: Missing Scott has hurt, as he was our one "lock down" guy. Seems like he's headed for a RS so he'll be a rSo next year. Layne has given up some yards, but is definitely a "keep them in front of you" DB. Person and Bulter are fine. Outside of Scott, no one seems to be "top 2 round pick" type talent like we had with Dennard and Waynes.

S: Watching Willis try to stay with Halmer on a couple crossing routes was terrifying last week. But he's a very good run defender, and gets out to the flats well. Dowell is one of those explodes in all direction Safeties, lots of picks and PBRs, some busts. On passing downs we often bring in 4 Safeties, Morrissey and tFr Henderson. Kinda shows that a) we're a little light at CB, and b) we go zone more in those situations vs man-to-man.

Overall this D is like it always is: Stop the run, make you make ten 6 yard passes down the field, hope that the occasional bust doesn't ruin them. It's pretty effective. The LBs aren't great dropping into coverage, I'd rather see them attack and cause pressure instead. But the front 7 is usually disruptive enough to snuff out drives.

My hope is Michigan sets 1st down on fire by running up the gut, then MSU can get Michigan behind schedule and cause some issues. If it's consistently 2nd and 5, MSU is gonna have a bad time.

Blues the ONE

October 19th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^

MSU is ranked # 1 against the run so far this year but their opponents haven't been lighting the world on fire either. 

I did a quick look to see where MSU's opponents fall in rushing offense up through last week.  The average position is 73rd.  The only team inside #40 was Penn State and they hit them for over 200 yards. 

As a reference Michigan's opponents average 58th in overall rushing standings through last week. 

MSU run defense may not really be as tough as we expect. 

 

 

dragonchild

October 19th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^

MSU's run defense is a sort of positive feedback loop; not only are they legit good against the run, they sell out against it.  So smart teams like Northwestern just didn't run at them at all, which boosts their run D stats, and so on.

The thing I most dread (after crappy weather, crappy refs, and the team taking a crap on the field) -- the fourth thing I dread is that our coaches are going to set drives on fire by slamming run plays into MSU's ludicrously one-dimensional defense in a stupid slobberknocker that keeps MSU in the game.  That said, it's also likely that MSU will break tendency and stay in zone, now that everyone knows zone is Shea's kryptonite.

Njia

October 19th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^

Something tells me that Higdon's statement last week about "Michigan having the best Offensive Line in the country" will be tested for its veracity tomorrow afternoon. 

Mongo

October 19th, 2018 at 1:43 PM ^

MSU's Defensive Rank in the B1G:

  • Scoring Defense   #6
  • Rush Defense       #1
  • Pass Defense       #13
  • Total Defense       #4  (Maryland is #3)
  • Sacks                    #7
  • TFL                       #6
  • Long Pass Plays  #11

The average Sack and TFL rank is very odd relative to the #1 rank in the Run.  Digging deeper into the reason is a by-opponent assessment: (1)  ~1.0 YAC from Utah State, Arizona State, Indiana and Northwestern  (2)  2.9 YAC from Central  (3)  6.4 YAC from Penn State. 

Conclusion:  MSU has a solid run defense but its #1 strength profile is skewed by playing a schedule of pass-first opponents that don't have a good run game to begin with.  Outlier is Penn State's 6.4 YAC which is better than their season average, breaking some big ones through scheme (their norm).  Michigan is going to move the ball on the ground against MSU, I would guess at slightly below our 5.4 YAC average.  In the pass, we could turn the lights out on this game.  MSU is vulnerable to the play-action deep ball and TEs in the seam.  I think with Shea, fast WRs and big TEs we have a really good matchup to take advantage of MSU's significant weaknesses in pass defense.  Just need to stay balanced, patient and make plays when those gaping holes are presented from scheme.