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01/09/2019 - 12:44pm Brian, you're correct about…

Brian, you're correct about BartTorvik's mid-range shots being a little wonky. According to the site, Nick Ward is taking about 33% of his shots from "Other 2pt Range". I'd suspect it's just related to how he gets play-by-play data from or wherever.


Nevertheless, it's a fantastic site. I like it more than Kenpom, though it's been a couple years since I had a Kenpom subscription.

12/07/2018 - 10:57am Pinnacle HS is I think where…

Pinnacle HS is I think where Brian Lewerke came from, and I think right now has a kid who's committed to Oklahoma as the starting QB?

Maybe low rank is simply from a lack of PT so far. 


11/29/2018 - 1:38pm Re: Teske: "And if you're a…

Re: Teske: "And if you're a 6'8" guy trying to beat him up in the post, forget it."

Hello Nick Ward!

I'd say the B1G Pecking order right now would be Mich > MSU > a pack > Illinois, but MSU could easily fall into that pack group. My concerns were how we'd handle athletic perimeter players after last season, and while returns against Texas/UCLA were good, they were not against Kansas/Louisville.

11/13/2018 - 1:41pm Wrongful termination and …

Wrongful termination and "letting his contract expire and not renewing it" seem totally different. I'm no lawyer, but seems like he doesn't have a leg to stand on there. 

Also, this doesn't exactly paint Blackwell in a good light when his own lawsuit says: "The lawsuit claims Blackwell chose not to speak to investigators from the law firm Jones Day for their investigation into the January sexual assault claim and that his decision "greatly displeased" Dantonio, Simon and Hollis..."

I'm sure this will go well for him.

11/13/2018 - 10:31am Doesn't this seem like…

Doesn't this seem like McMurphy is trying to tell a story, when the facts tell a different one? Like, a kid and coach got into an argument (where the kid mentions coach trying to get with OSU coeds, which, lol). But everything after that points to one thing: A son transferring to be closer to his mom and 8 year old brother.

I'm not seeing the nefarious cover-up you guys are.

10/31/2018 - 3:14pm Both these UFRs came out…

Both these UFRs came out about how I thought they would.

For MSUs offense, a healthy Lewerke might change things slightly, but he also hasn't been the same at any point this year as last year. I'm glad you said Lombardi playing would have led to more picks. I said to a friend I thought a line for him might be 10/25, 100y, 2INTs instead of Lewerkes 5/25, 66y. He's not changing this outcome.

The lack of trick plays or wrinkles can probably be attributed to either a) too many moving pieces week in week out or b) just the lack of talent to try them with. Stewart/Nailor limited, White out, Davis out (2nd half). You've got Cam Chambers with a cast on his hand, and 6' walk-on Sowards as your receivers.

There was just no one on the field who could beat their opposite athletically. Nailor/Stewart did against Purdue this weekend, but Purdue ain't Michigan, and watching them run routes last week they weren't close to ready.

I do think playing Michigan helped MSU against Purdue, because man it must have been nice to not be getting blown up every play.

edit: I should mention Layne was probably a Michigan-week position switch, but I've liked him on O so far. Against Michigan he got behind Long and Watson, not that it mattered much. Against Purdue he smoked their corners DPJ-style. He was a top 300 WR I think coming in, I hope to see him on that side of the ball a little more.

10/22/2018 - 1:50pm Well, it went worse than I…

Well, it went worse than I thought, but not that much worse. If we'd had 10 points and 180y of offense, I think I'd have been alright with it. 

RE: Michigan DBs - even pre-Davis injury I don't think they feared anyone getting over the top of them, after that is was awful looking downfield. I know Lewerke was spraying the ball everywhere, but I doubt he ever saw more than half a yard of separation. There was one play where we brought in Layne at WR and ran a fly route, seemed to have a step on one of the DBs but the ball was too long. I wonder if we'll see him at WR more now that Davis is out too. Just no speed out there anymore.

RE: MSUs D - I thought they played a heck of a game. Faced 77 plays (including kneeldowns), were out there for over 40 minutes, and outside of the 1 bust didn't get dinged too bad. Definitely wore down in the 2nd half, god bless em. A bit unlucky that two tipped 3rd down passes were caught for 1st downs, on Michigan's only 2 real scoring drives. But at the same time, I'm positive Harbaugh could have gone for it several times on MSUs side of the field if he ever felt threatened.


I gotta say, when the rain started to fall, and MSU got the fumble and scored, the place was pretty loud. Then we fumbled that punt and everyone went "welp, we're never scoring again."

MSU had 11 first downs, 5 by penalty, lol.


I usually ignore Brian's bitching about the TV timeouts, but oh my god I was upset when it was 4p and we had 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Jesus FOX.

10/19/2018 - 3:53pm Cmon Rain! Cmon Wind! Cmon…

Cmon Rain! Cmon Wind! Cmon hot dog wrappers flying around the field!

Cmon first scripted drive that leads to a TD!  Cmon 2.7 YPC (for both teams!)

Let's goooooooooooo

10/19/2018 - 11:24am ha, didn't think about the…

ha, didn't think about the two of them being on opposite sides of the ball. In a couple years, the elder could be scheming how to exploit the younger. 

10/19/2018 - 11:01am Dantonio said a couple weeks…

Dantonio said a couple weeks ago he was just back to jogging and running. Had a meniscus repair, not just removal, so timetable is longer. Mentioned a redshirt for him for playing 4 or less games.

10/19/2018 - 10:58am DL: The strength of this D,…

DL: The strength of this D, I have really liked Mike Panasiuk (the bigger older one) his whole career. Both the DTs are excellent and keep Bachie blocker free often. My one concern is that they don't really get a TON of pressure just with the front 4. I really like Bouyer-Randle on the edge in passing downs. He causes a lot of disruption. (also, he has to be bigger than his listed size, when I'm at the games he really stands out on the field) 

LBs: Bachie is basically a Bullough, better than Riley, probably a little worse than Max. Great between the numbers. Not as fast as Bush, but aside from that everything you want in an MLB. Surprised you starred Dowell, I've considered him a meh LB, but maybe that's last year affecting my thoughts on him this year. Opposite them, Thompson and Simmons have been vulnerable on those short passes to the flats, but good otherwise. Reschke has played a ton more than I thought he would this year, but hasn't been as dominate as he was pre-you know (he was probably headed for all-conference honors before an injury in 2016)

DBs: Missing Scott has hurt, as he was our one "lock down" guy. Seems like he's headed for a RS so he'll be a rSo next year. Layne has given up some yards, but is definitely a "keep them in front of you" DB. Person and Bulter are fine. Outside of Scott, no one seems to be "top 2 round pick" type talent like we had with Dennard and Waynes.

S: Watching Willis try to stay with Halmer on a couple crossing routes was terrifying last week. But he's a very good run defender, and gets out to the flats well. Dowell is one of those explodes in all direction Safeties, lots of picks and PBRs, some busts. On passing downs we often bring in 4 Safeties, Morrissey and tFr Henderson. Kinda shows that a) we're a little light at CB, and b) we go zone more in those situations vs man-to-man.

Overall this D is like it always is: Stop the run, make you make ten 6 yard passes down the field, hope that the occasional bust doesn't ruin them. It's pretty effective. The LBs aren't great dropping into coverage, I'd rather see them attack and cause pressure instead. But the front 7 is usually disruptive enough to snuff out drives.

My hope is Michigan sets 1st down on fire by running up the gut, then MSU can get Michigan behind schedule and cause some issues. If it's consistently 2nd and 5, MSU is gonna have a bad time.

10/19/2018 - 9:11am So we just gotta get to OT,…

So we just gotta get to OT, then the rain gods will be with us!

10/18/2018 - 1:29pm I'm always lurking, but don…

I'm always lurking, but don't care to comment that much about non-MSU items. This week is my time to shine

10/18/2018 - 11:40am Seth mentioned it in the…

Seth mentioned it in the article, but White has better numbers than Davis. Davis plays the "Lewerke is chucking this ball to me regardless" position, so he gets more targets. But I think White is bigger, faster, and runs better routes. Davis has better hands, and more body control. He can go get anything. But if I had to choose one to play, it'd be White.

10/18/2018 - 11:01am OL: It's bad. I'd say you're…

OL: It's bad. I'd say you're probably too harsh on Jarvis and Reid, who are the only two players that MSU hasn't moved around all year, which probably (maybe hopefully?) tells you how they feel about them. Some of this is pain though is also a little self inflicted. I know we've been dealing with injuries (and poor play), but in-game we rotate OL a ton. I can't tell you how jealous I was watching the Michigan/Wisconsin game to see the same 5 OL in there on the last drive even when the backup skill guys where there. 

WR: It's good! Kinda. Davis isn't a great athlete, but is big and uses his body really well. Strong hands too. I'd expect Stewart to play, he's pretty fast, a good route runner. Was used a lot on sweeps last year but almost none this season. White was the star of this group though, he's DPJ if DPJ was good (heyo! kidding). But he has it all. Nalor/Nelson have shown good things, Sowards is not someone I want to see on the field, but he'll be omnipresent this weekend.

RB: It's been bad, especially without Scott. But one thing that has plagued this team for 3 years now is running outside the tackles with the RB. Scott is so slow they just completely gave up, Heyward seems faster, but maybe not. Jefferson has shown some good things but also fumbled a couple times. Need to find someone like a Jeremy Langford who can threaten the edge as well as run with power.

TE: Sokol is bad, Dotson is a good young player. He's seen more snaps and targets recently with good effect.

QB: What to say here? He's been a little worse this season, but he definitely has no help right now. He's not running as much, which is annoying to me because we saw him swing several games last year breaking the pocket. This season he seems undecided on his scrambles, which has led to sacks and incompletions. When Patterson transferred, I did a comparison between the two and said he was a slightly better Lewerke, who throws more picks and runs less. Well that hasn't held up this year.

MSUs hope for any offense is that Stewart (and maybe Scott) return this week, and 1 more week of good health on the OL helps them find some success on the ground. Then you get a more comfortable Lewerke making sound decisions.

10/17/2018 - 3:19pm Sounds like you think he's…

Sounds like you think he's coming to MSU soon! ha.

His son is a true freshman this year I think

10/17/2018 - 10:11am There isn't a ton of close…

There isn't a ton of close parking open to the public. I usually park in Ramp 6 at the top of this map when I don't have a parking pass:

It's a nice walk through the older part of campus, over the foot bridge, to the stadium. The band warms up over there too so you can hear the best damn fight song in the land

10/15/2018 - 2:29pm FWIW, Utah State is a better…

FWIW, Utah State is a better offense than Michigan per S&P rankings. They've steamrolled everyone since the MSU game.

10/15/2018 - 2:07pm Michigan is gonna loose cuz…

Michigan is gonna loose cuz ur trash and all ways will b trash!


Eh, I think Michigan are deserved 7 point favorites in this game. But for MSU to win, we'll have to do what we did against PSU: Muck it up and hope for the best. 

MSU can shut down the run. Even against PSU, take away 2 big plays and PSU was at 30 carries for ~90 yards on the ground. And McSorely couldn't do anything against us.

If Michigan lights 1st down on fire (like they did on the road at NW remember), and sets up MSU for 3rd and long blitzes, MSU could kill a few Michigan drives. 

On defense, maybe this is a repeat of the 2015 MSU/Michigan game, where MSU gets a decent amount of yards by just throwing to Davis every play and hoping for 40% completions. Worked against Jordan Lewis, could work against Hill/Long.


But I gotta be honest, MSU is in bad shape in all three phases of the game. Have you seen our punter? It's either a 40 yard line drive, or a 25 yard line drive, there's no other options. I think we will be able to muck it up enough to keep it competitive, but I don't think MSU scores more than 17, and I don't think Michigan scores less than 23

10/10/2018 - 10:33am He's been sitting since…

He's been sitting since before this ticket, so I'd say he's sitting for injury, not punishment.

10/09/2018 - 2:02pm Based on some other tweets,…

Based on some other tweets, Tai could be considered a UM Booster and therefore cause issues for UM even if they didn't recruit Bowen. Seems like a stretch to think anything would come of this. (heh, but Michigan has had problems with stretches before!)

10/02/2018 - 12:02pm Since we're talking MSU, I…

Since we're talking MSU, I'll chime in.

White is our best receiver, more explosive than Davis imo. Losing him is huge. MSU has been suprisingly injury plagued this year, probably 2-3 starters a week have been out. Against CMU, we were down to Davis and a bunch of backup slot WRs.

Our OL has also been pretty snake bit this year. Three different projected starts this preseason have missed games. I'm including Chewins in there, but he probably can't be considered a starter anymore. He hasn't started yet this year (started every game last year), but has played in I think 3 of the games. OL coach said he's still dealing with the injury so I doubt he's 100% at any point this year. 

09/14/2018 - 12:49pm Lol, near families and…

Lol, near families and children? That's the heart of student rentals. There's a frat across the street, and Cedar Village across Grand River. My God OP.


Edit: I do want to amend this. 823 W Grand River is more residential, but actually has more frats near it. I was looking at 823 E Grand River. OP still dumb, but alas, I'm not here to promote fake news.

09/14/2018 - 12:39pm I think it was LJ Scott?…

I think it was LJ Scott? Seems like that came out last fall when he was arrested for driving without a license.

09/14/2018 - 12:37pm I'm glad to see the comments…

I'm glad to see the comments on here are reasonable, because this is bull shit OP.

It's been a few years since I was on campus, but (as a non-athlete), EVERY interaction I had with EL PD was reasonable. They broke up parties I was at (while I was underage and over-21), and as long as you're respectful, they tell you to call it a night and head home. The times I've seen people hit with MIPs are for being stumbling drunk, or confrontational with police. 

None of your first 3 bullet points are anywhere close to my experience. If an officer feels like there's too much for them to handle, I have seen them call for backup like in #4. But it's usually 3 cop cars sitting outside the house, with officers hanging out in the yard just to make sure the crowd disperses. 

Plenty of reasons to have MSU outrage, but this ain't it.

09/11/2018 - 12:39pm As an MSU fan, bring it all…

As an MSU fan, bring it all into the light. I've wanted Perles gone as a trustee for a while now, maybe this will force a retirement out of him.

09/11/2018 - 12:04pm Nah, I don't think it was…

Nah, I don't think it was intentional. Just a guy going for a punt block after the whistle was blown. 


Still, I wish they hadn't waived off the roughing the kicker penalty. Our punter was injured in a dead ball situation by an opposing player, seems like you should call something there.

02/28/2018 - 10:43am The Devos's have season

The Devos's have season tickets to MSU sporting events. And their daughter goes (went?) there.


01/19/2018 - 12:37pm It's the new TV deal. It's

It's the new TV deal. It's going to be the same next year, and with the 2 extra games in the B1G schedule we'll probably be playing those two early Dec games again, and go 1 week later, but without any additional time for rest.

01/19/2018 - 12:33pm Wouldn't W/L record affect

Wouldn't W/L record affect this too? I think MSU was called for 1 more foul in this last game, but MSU always was intentionally fouling the last minute, so it was really like 24 M fouls to 19 MSU or so until that point. 

Not that you'd do this research, but fouls in non-intentional fouling time is probably more indicative right?

01/19/2018 - 11:49am I didn't know about the

I didn't know about the rowing or XC teams, that's good to know. 

I saw in an article last year that the gymnastics team basically advertised him in recruiting pitches. Which is disgusting to think about now

01/19/2018 - 10:41am Yeah, there probably do have

Yeah, there probably do have some responsibility, especially since he was so involved with the gymnastics team. And there were athletes from other sports who were referred to him. And I think it was a softball player who told a trainer. So what did that trainer do? Who else knew?

When you say they should vet and follow up on him, who in the AD knew? The gymnastics coach swept everything under the rug, so I highly doubt she took it up the chain. That trainer might have told some other trainers. But think about your job. When you give work to someone else at the company, do you vet them? Do you check their employment record for any past issues? When you work with a 3rd party, do you vet every single person who does the work over there? The answer to those are No. So I'm not sure what you think the AD should do.

We really just need an outside investigation.

Who was told of abuse? What did they do with that info? Who turned a blind eye because it was convenient for them? Any department staff who protected him either directly (gymnastics coach) or indirectly (countless others) need to go, and potentially be prosecuted. 

01/19/2018 - 10:40am I wouldn't trust a word out

I wouldn't trust a word out of her mouth right now. An independent investigation is the only way we can know the truth.

01/19/2018 - 8:52am I'll tread cautiously here,

I'll tread cautiously here, since we still don't know all the facts and I don't want to sound like a guy who's just protecting his sports teams. But re: Hollis, it seems like the MSU AD is tangentially related to these sexual assualt cases, not directly in the chain of command?

As far as I know Nassar was not employed by the athletic department (but he was heavily involved with the gymnastics team, so maybe he was in some way). So I'm not sure if Hollis had any oversight on him there. From the Detroit News article yesterday, it does seem like at least one athletic trainer was told by one of the victims, so that does probably rope in the Athletic Department to some extent right? I don't know when that happened, so I'm not sure if Hollis was in charge then or not (he was in the athletic dept over the marketing dept before taking the AD job so I'd doubt he knew a ton about the operational side). 

Ultimately though, I just want a full independent investigation into the university. The athletic dept, adminstration, medical school, everything. Anyone who knew or should have known about this should be gone. It seems like Simon is already in that group of people, and a lot of people in the AD may fall into that category too.

01/05/2018 - 11:13am 3 yr contract for $1 million


01/05/2018 - 11:13am 3 yr contract for $1 million

3 yr contract for $1 million a year is pretty nice. That's more than double what MSU was paying him. 

Interesting that we paid Narduzzi over a million per season, but once he left we went the co-DC route, and I don't think MSU likes the idea of paying two guys $1m+ (what are we, Michigan?) or having 1 guy make a lot more than the other. 

I'd think they would just go to one DC now, and use the extra funds to raise assistant salaries across the board. Need to bring in a DB guy, but apparently we had a grad assistant who did a lot of work with them this year, and the DBs seemed to be improved from a year ago. Maybe MSU goes that route.

Barnett is an MSU alumni, seems to love the program. Another bullet in the chamber when Dantonio eventually retires? I'd be open to him or Duzzi being an option for the job (not a fan of the other coaches who have left). 

12/22/2017 - 3:41pm Yeah, I knew that, but I'm

Yeah, I knew that, but I'm not gonna put that in MY agrument!

Michigan I think requires 16 specific classes (4 years math, science, etc), to MSUs 13 (or 12?). I think Michigan and Wisconsin lead the B1G in that regard.

12/22/2017 - 2:57pm I'll hate myself for jumping

I'll hate myself for jumping into this, but here we go. Responding to some earlier comments in the thread.

What DB from MSU was a bust in the NFL? Here's some standard stats from (don't know where to look for advanced stats):

- Dennard leads Cincy in tackles this year, has 2 sacks, and an INTs.

- Waynes is 2nd on Vikings in tackles, has 2 INTs. 

- Nicholson, who I thought made a mistake in leaving early, had 24 tackles, 1 INT in 8 games before getting injured.

MSUs CBs were significantly improved this season vs the year before, and seeing a guy like Josiah Scott getting freshman all-american honors is probably pretty appealing to this kid.


Now as for grades being an issue. Let me say two things: 

1) All B1G schools outside of Northwestern have the game GPA/ACT requirements. 

2) maybe MSU is willing to offer/accept a committment from someone who is not yet meeting those, whereas Michigan is a little more cautious. Michigan took a couple kids a year ago (Hawkins, Johnson) who didn't qualify, so if that's the case either they're more cautious now or it's not an issue. 


There's a lot of reasons for a kid to choose MSU. Including, but not limited to, not getting offered by Michigan.

12/18/2017 - 3:00pm Michigan still is predicted

Michigan still is predicted to have a 10-8 conf record. I'd say 13-5 is a little too high. But I definitely think 11-7 is attainable, maybe 12-6. 

Michigan has been 3-6 and 3-5 on the road in the B1G the last two years, 4 road games against top 40 teams in MSU, Purdue, Maryland, PSU(!?!?!). Could definitely see those being losses.

In Michigan's favor, I think if you're a team who's weakness is scoring (Texas), you're gonna have a bad time. Michigan even when not making a ton of 3s is efficient enough to win. That's why I think they can win @Wisco even though that's typically been a tough road victory. 

I didn't think Michigan would make the tournament a couple weeks ago, but wins against UCLA and Texas are enough to tell me they'll make it


12/08/2017 - 4:01pm I haven't read too many

I haven't read too many articles on this, but I thought the FBI was requesting some records from MSU. Maybe they've already started to look at who-knew-what-and-when.

12/08/2017 - 3:58pm I think she's the worst

I think she's the worst (okay, 2nd worst) person in all of this. She was told numerous times I think, and dismissed the girls' concerns. Even as recent as last year I think she was trying to get girls on the team to rally to his side in support of him. Once she was suspended (I assume a mandatory requirement before a firing or something similar) she retired. Despicable. 

12/05/2017 - 12:06pm I know it's not the same

I know it's not the same injury, or the same player, etc etc. But Grant Newsome seems like Dennis Finley for MSU, but much worse.

Finley broke his leg against Purdue in October 2015. Over two years later he's out of eligibility and never played a meaningful down of football again.

He lost a lot of weight, and a lot of strength in his leg, just like Newsome, but Newsome's injury seems like it was worse. To see Newsome on the field in 2018 would be really surprising and incredibly impressive to me. I like I'd put less than a 25% chance of it happening though.

12/04/2017 - 10:03am Think I started visiting in

Think I started visiting in '09? It's the best blog out there if you ask me.

If I could make 1 suggestion tho, it'd probably be more Draftgeddon. I need my fix!

11/28/2017 - 9:40am Neg away, I'm ready for

Neg away, I'm ready for it.

This info is wrong and everyone using it should feel bad.

MSU alone has been called for 3 holding penalties against Michigan in the last two years. 2 of them ended up being declined.

OSU was called for a hold on the 4th down punt DPJ returned. I could see why that'd be excluded for this article I guess, but now we're up to 4 holding calls. 

And that was just in the 4 MSU/OSU games. I bet if I looked at a Rtugers game I'd find some more holding call that were declined. 

11/22/2017 - 11:15am Include MSU v PSU.

Include MSU v PSU.


Was Michigan not included on the schedule for the other teams because this is only looking at ranked teams? If so, bravo on the self trolling...

11/21/2017 - 12:28pm The grass is always greener

The grass is always greener on the other side. I think our OL is WAY worse than Michigans overall. We're bad a run blocking and just barely tolerable in pass pro. Michigan is at least good at one of those, even if they're a disaster at the other. 

I guess we haven't gotten two QBs killed tho, so maybe MSU's OL is better.

11/16/2017 - 1:52pm Never been involved in the

Never been involved in the process at all, but I'm pretty sure if a kid comes on any official or maybe even unofficial visit (ie is being recruited by the school), then there are very strict scholarship rules for them. You cannot give a kid an academic scholarship in that case, he'd still count against the football cap. 

Also, I'd assume if the kid is not coming in on the football scholarship he'd be held to higher admission standards. NCAA has a sliding scale of GPA and ACT/SAT scores. A large number of athetes would not be in college at all if it wasn't for that.

11/13/2017 - 2:59pm I've said it before and I'll

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Wisconsin's student section sucks. It's about 1/3rd full to start a game, gets to about 3/4ths full by the time it's time to "Jump Around", then it's back to <1/3rd full about 5 minutes into the 4th quarter. They get too much love from the TV crews. 

11/08/2017 - 10:28am "Missed practices" If I

"Missed practices"

If I recall correctly, he quit the team in fall camp last year. And then was going to re-join the team in Spring ball, but the coaching staff told him no. It was around the time that the recruiting coordinator guy was catching all the heat for the legal stuff, so I'm wondering if he was the driver for him returning And the coaching staff put the brakes on that.

10/26/2017 - 8:58am I agree Michigan's goal

I agree Michigan's goal should be OSU, not MSU. MSU might never get to those highs of that three year run again. But maybe, just for a couple years, Michigan should try to have the success MSU has had first, before comparing itself to OSU.

Back on topic, Michigan should recruit the guys they want in their system. They took Bush over an in-state prospect, that seems to have worked out well for them. If Michigan is getting the best players to play for them, who cares where they are from.