NCAA Clears MSU re: Nassar & OTL

Submitted by ldd10 on

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018/08/30/michigan-state-football-basketball-ncaa-investigation-larry-nassar/1143441002/

Beekman...

“In regards to the crimes committed on our campus by Larry Nassar, the NCAA findings do not change a thing,” Beekman said. “NCAA member organizations have a specific set of rules to which we hold each other accountable. And while we agree with the NCAA that we did not commit a violation, that does not diminish our commitment to ensure the health, safety and wellness of our student athletes. That pledge permeates everything we do as part of a larger university commitment to making MSU a safer campus.

“As it relates to the handling of student-athlete conduct issues, at Michigan State we are committed to following all appropriate policies and procedures. Today’s findings provide external validation of Mark Dantonio and Tom Izzo and the way they administer their programs. Mark and Tom represent the athletic department and Michigan State University with integrity."

ijohnb

August 30th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^

It doesn't matter what this says.  We know.  They know.  Everybody who cares knows.  The Michigan State Athletic Department is a very sick place.

Roy G. Biv

August 30th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^

Come on, man.  NCAA doesn't punish minor shit like sexual assault, domestic assault, lying/obfuscation, academic fraud, cash payments, student deaths, etc.  They only have time for big stuff, like cream cheese, giving kids car rides, and stretching.

yossarians tree

August 30th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^

Brian did a summation earlier this year of the litany of players who were let back on the team after some pretty egregious incidents including several accusations of sex assault. One guy came out of jail on Thursday and was starting on Saturday. If anyone has that link please provide as a sort of cold goo to feed our Sparty trolls.

umich1

August 30th, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^

After the last couple of weeks, if I’m Penn State I’m wondering WTF.  MSU and OSU had similar facts and circumstances and an egregiously difference result.

Perkis-Size Me

August 30th, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^

Doesn't change what happened there, and what has been enabled to happen there. Like what happened at Penn State, that is a stain that MSU will never be able to wash off. 

kehnonymous

August 30th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^

I ate a bagel with cream cheese literally seconds before seeing this post.  Had I instead simply molested someone, that would've garnered me less scrutiny from the NCAA.

M-Dog

August 30th, 2018 at 1:01 PM ^

Meyer is not going away.  Dantonio is not going away.

If we hoped these scandals would make that happen, we were wrong.

The only way to make them go away is beat them on the field a few times in a row.

So do it for justice, Michigan.

 

Gr1mlock

August 30th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^

Unpopular opinion alert: I don't necessarily think this is a wrong decision.  I think Nassar, Appling, Payne, and the dozens of rapists and criminals who played for Dantonio should be in jail forever.  I think Klages, Simon, Izzo, Dantonio, the BOT, Engler, Nassar's boss, and the old AD whose name I forget should be tried and convicted as accessories and accomplices.  But I don't think the NCAA should be involved.  Admittedly, I don't know every single NCAA rule, but I'm pretty sure there's not an express "don't rape anybody" or even general "don't commit crimes" regulation (whether there should be or not is a whole other conversation). 

As it stands, the NCAA is an administrative body without any subpoena power or real investigative arm, and I think inserting them into legal issues, that aren't directly tied to "sports activities" isn't a good choice.  A, they lack the means to actually do anything; B, punishing teams for this kind of thing just, to me, cheapens what the victims have gone through; and C, something feels wrong about punishing players who had nothing to do with the crimes via postseason bans, vacated wins, etc.  Why should some random MSU gymnast be banned from that national tournament because Nassar is one of  the worst humans ever born?  I felt the same way about PSU, this is bigger than what the NCAA can and should be about, and it always felt like the NCAA came down on PSU because of public pressure and the desire to be clear how they were opposed to rape; pretty much everyone acknowledges they basically made up violations to justify punishment.  

I realize I'm in the great minority on this opinion (and I'm prepared for the negbombing I'll receive).  But I think situations like this, where abominable acts occurred by people in the athletic department that aren't "sports related", should be dealt with by the police, by the FBI, by the State, and/or by Title IX investigators.  To me, it's just beyond the NCAA's job, and their hamhandedness and inconsistency dealing with these issues just shows it.  

darkstar

August 30th, 2018 at 2:29 PM ^

Your position makes sense to me. But then why put out any statement or investigate at all when they have limited powers to begin with other than to punish future innocent athletes? It's pretty transparent to some people at this point given the amount of investigations they have conducted that have ended up with no punishment that they are a toothless organization pursuing a self-centered agenda.

Edit: Former AD was Mark Hollis btw

gustave ferbert

August 30th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^

I heard that ESPN was supposed to be coming out with a follow up from their spring's "Crisis at Michigan State" expose. 

 

now would be a perfect time for the Outside the Lines people to chime in

Athena666

August 30th, 2018 at 2:22 PM ^

I have to say, I am surprised at all the self-righteous indignation on this forum regarding the news about MSU. I realize you hate Michigan State, but I would expect people on this forum, especially actual Michigan graduates, to be a little more measured and nuanced with their criticism. None of this news should lesson the vile, criminal behavior of Larry Nassar or the incompetent people who enabled him over the years. However, putting aside your utter contempt for Michigan State, I would think that many of you would be able to come to terms with the fact that Dantonio and Izzo are not the monsters you want to believe they are. Then again, I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears.