"IU student told to wear Michigan shirt or leave"
from an indiana blog (yes, apparently they exist):
to which i would say "don't be a puss."
also: go ahead. say "first amendment" one more time. i dare you.
I saw a guy on TV with a Maize zip hoodie on with an indiana jersey under it.
I think it's actually funny. This should encourage opposing fans to stay out of our house.
If you don't want to get heckled as an opposing fan, don't sit in the student section. It's that simple.
EDIT: I should have read further before posting. Apparently the usher said it. That's a little different.
March 11th, 2013 at 11:30 AM ^
I highly doubt it
March 11th, 2013 at 11:36 AM ^
If there's a risk that a fight might break out because someone is wearing a red jersey, that's on our fans and our crowd control measures, not on the visiting fan who wears their team's jersey.
Assembly Hall allows away fans to wear their own jerseys and we practically invented basketball,
Oh my God these people are almost as bad as notre dame fans. What is it with that state?
It is worst. I can guarantee a sizeable portion of the IU basketball fans are also Notre Dame football fans in the fall. At Purdue we call IU fans reversible jacket fans.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:59 AM ^
Oh damnit this is my girlfriend. Notre Dame fan in football season, Indiana fan in basketball season, Chicago Bulls fan for NBA, Indianapolis Colts fan for NFL. I give her shit by listing my sports allegiances as MICHIGAN MICHIGAN DETROIT DETROIT DETROIT DETROIT.
Fergodsakes, have an identity people.
March 11th, 2013 at 12:40 PM ^
And how do the Badgers fit into this discussion?
Hah, fair question - I'm a PhD student at UW-Madison, so I guess I've got a little bit of academic pride at least, and I enjoy Madison. I was kinda cool with their football team, as they were in the Leaders Division, so who cares, but honestly I'm learning to hate them after this basketball season. I had to see all their stupid fans' faces outside the Kohl Center after that miracle bullshit they pulled on us, and I was mere moments away from steering my vehicle into the masses.
JK I'm not murderous. But for real, I was kinda mad.
March 11th, 2013 at 12:41 PM ^
Cut them a break. They're not used to winning. Heck, I've been to IU football games against Michigan where the Michigan fans outnumber the IU fans! They've had a rough run and its okay to give them their time in the spotlight. Its better that they win the conference than Sparty or Ohio, right?
March 11th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
No it is NOT better. Nothing is "better" about that chokin' freakin' loss. It sounds so perfectly Sparty to say, "well at least our loss prevented our hated rival from succeeding..."
No sir. Tom Crean and his program ought to be stand-alone hate objects. There is nothing good about the loss. Nothing.
As if getting pegged into a disastrous 5-seed in the Big Ten Tourney wasn't bad enough. It was a disastrous result. It makes a B1G Tourney run a near-imipossibility (four outlandishly tough games in four days, instead of three) and that may well impact our NCAA seeding.
Now, back on topic, and about that student ticket; aren't you supposed to be a current Michigan student, with an ID, to purchase and use a student Maize Rage ticket?
We're not the only school with this policy. Much ado about nothing.
Just because there exists at least one other school with this policy (if your claim is correct) doesn't mean it's not a bad policy.
March 11th, 2013 at 11:31 AM ^
Even we are not above the policy.
For the record, it's true, just in case anyone wasn't sure. The ushers walk around with these maize t shirts and provide the ultimatum, I only witnessed one and the entire Maize Rage was on the girl about it lol, but she did (very reluctantly) put it on.
That has been the rule for the student section as long as I have been here. You have to wear something Michigan.
If not, you can either cover it up or you get kicked out.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:13 AM ^
who sold their ticket to an IU fan. Aren't they the problem??? I get you are on Spring Break....you know you can sell it to another Michigan student.
I refuse to ever sell/give any of my tickets to an opposing fan...even relatives! (Some married inappropriately....what can you do?)
There are two sides of this:
A) it's absolutely ridiculous for an opposing fan to think it's going to be fun wearing opposing colors in the MAIZE rage. I guess that's what an IU education buys you.
B) if you purchase a good, you are entitled to use that good. Would they really throw you out for failing to comply?
or would they find a place for you to sit outside the MAIZE rage where the color of your shirt doesn't matter? Like....the rafters?
March 11th, 2013 at 10:26 AM ^
This was an update (from the MaizeRage website) to the article
Students with a ticket in the bleachers are required to wear a maize Michigan shirt (preferably basketball related), a Michigan basketball jersey, or a costume. Students who do not comply with this requirement may be moved to the blue or gold sections. It is also required that students in the bleachers stand up during game action. It looks bad on television when some of the students are sitting down.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:32 AM ^
a Michigan student sells their student ticket to a non-student? Does it still apply? Just wondering. Either way, the IU fan should have expected it.
March 11th, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^
March 11th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^
Great comment. Great contribution to this thread.
/s (in case there was any doubt)
March 11th, 2013 at 11:38 AM ^
It's interesting that these are phrased as requirements, rather than strong suggestions. I would bet that the latter part would get them in trouble with the Americans with Disabilities Act, if anyone bothered to challenge it.
So you're saying they're handicapped?
Would it also be the 'former' part. The latter would be a strong suggestion, yes?
It's no different for michigan to say if you sit in seats x-y you must do a, b, & c.
Hmmm, I can't say I'm a fan of this policy. This makes the school appear desperate and sorta undermines the genuineness of the Maize Rage if they are being "forced" to look and behave the way they do. If you don't want away colors in the bleacher seats, then create policies that discourage students from selling their tickets to visiting fans.
March 11th, 2013 at 12:22 PM ^
I'm sure there wouldn't be a related thread about how those created policies are unjust. You could say the policy ensures that only that the most committed students get into the the Maize Rage rather than someone with no real interest.
I guess that they could remove such a policy and then everyone could complain about the poor atmosphere at games and the away fans in the student section. That would be fun.
I never suggested replacing one unjust policy for another. There is a big difference between discouraging certain types of ticket transactions and forcing the end-users of tickets to wear certain attire or stand.
Also, do you really believe the only thing standing between the current Maize Rage we see in the stands and the arena hellscape you describe above is this policy? I like to believe that the students are eager and willing participants, and not just the output of some Draconian, athletic department policy intended to create Crisler Indoor Stadium at all costs.
Yes, the policy removes a few specks of non-maize color from the student section, but it also removes a lot of credibility. Check that Indiana blog for proof.
I actually sat in the Wisconsin student section this year wearing UM gear (went with a friend who is a Badger) and I didn't/wouldn't expect to have been kicked out. I can tell you I definitely would not have put on Badger colors to watch the game, and if they kicked me out, I would be pissed.
Anyone know what the attitude/policy is at other B1G schools regarding student sections??
NutHouse: I've been a member for 5 years and there were no restrictions at all as to what attire you can ware as an opposing fan. I've seen Duke, Michigan, and Purdue fans/students sit in our section no problem. To the opposing fans that sat in the student section they knew someone from the school so it wasn't like they got heckled the entire game nor did the usher care what they wore.
Greatful Red: I've sat in Wisconsin student section for football and basketball and they don't care. Althought, when the ushers warn you ahead of time what may happen, it comes with territory of sitting in their student section.
Other then those two, I can't personally speak for other student sections I've sat in for away games. An OSU friend of mine who sat in the Orange Krush for a game had no problem and actually enjoy his time in the student section since most were respectful of the team he supported.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^
Srsly, How did that shot go in??? Still can't get over that. That's why I have a good feeling about the tournaments. It's totally our turn to get some lucky bounces!!
March 11th, 2013 at 10:27 AM ^
Still not sure.....I just remember the entire student section rushing the court around me, and I'm stuck standing there alone in this empty section, hoping I don't end up on ESPN.
The crowd itself was craziness. I got booed/taunted a couple of times, I went right back at them whenever Burke or THJ hit a big shot, and we all laughed at it. To me that's half the fun of going to Away games (the other half, actually winning, was sorely missed this time around) .
March 11th, 2013 at 10:37 AM ^
I have only been to one away game, and it was Mich Purdue fball. We lost 9-6. It was terrible. Some students yelled "f you" to my husband's Grandma!! I can not handle the emotional aspect of away games and possibly losing. I'm pathetic.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:52 AM ^
Yeah I think I just got lucky that 1. Wiscy fans may be the nicest fans I've seen
2. Football crowds in general are just more douche-prone than other sports. (by the way, I LOVE football, just stating an observation)
March 11th, 2013 at 10:18 AM ^
They are delusional. US News best colleges. They are #83. Not good.
March 11th, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^
I always find it funny seeing that one person wearing there teams shirt, in the student section while there team is losing, and there making the sad face. If you pay the same price as the person beside you, wear whatever you want.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
I'm not one to make a big stink about grammatical errors but you really need to work on the proper usage of "there", "their", and "they're".
March 11th, 2013 at 10:18 AM ^
there/their/they're scorecard: 0 / 3
March 11th, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^
Two instances of "their" and one of "they're", and instead, we got three "there". If only there were a spot where it was supposed to be "there" and he had used a different one, we could hit the trifecta.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:06 AM ^
"A Michigan Man's gotta have a code."
March 11th, 2013 at 10:08 AM ^
Wait how can you be "yes they exist!" about Inside the Hall? We mention them all the time. ITH is one of the few great independent sports blogs out there--closer to MGoBlog than just about anything except 11Warriors.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^
...just a smartassed cheap shot...well, i thought it was smartassed. obviously not.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
It doesn't seem like it has been updated in quite some time, but the Maize Rage has a site with a summary of the policy here - (LINK)
In essence, their site states that if you don't comply with the requirements for sitting in the bleachers (wearing opposing fan gear would be a failure to comply), you will likely be asked to move. You would also, according to this, require a ticket to sit in the student section in the first place, and according to the site, you get a wristband if your general admission ticket is for the bleachers too. I would think the IU fan was a pretty easy mark for the usher in this case.
March 11th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^
Dumb rule, but IU can't employ Crean and claim the moral high ground.