All-Time list of JUCO/transfers at Michigan?
Trying to assemble a stat of how many transfers to Michigan there have been, and how many JUCO players there have been. Please contribute if you know or have any ideas and I could look them up in the Bentley databse. So far, I have the following.
Russell Shaw | WR | 1996-1997 | Los Angeles, CA | Locke - El Camino C.C. (JUCO) |
Spencer Brinton | QB | 2001-2004 | Hemet, CA | San Diego State |
Grant Mason | CB | 2004-2005 | Pontiac, MI | Stanford |
Austin Panter | LB | 2007-2008 | El Dorado, KS | Kensington Butler C.C. (JUCO) |
Steven Threet | QB | 2007-2008 | Adrian, MI | Georgia Tech |
October 17th, 2012 at 11:27 AM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 2:24 PM ^
Tyrone Butterfield, who wore the illustrious #1 for two years in the 1990s, and is best known for dropping a Dreisbach pass (to Michigan's benefit), which allowed the Dreisbach-to-Hayes last second TD pass to beat Virginia in the first game of Lloyd Carr's head coaching career.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:23 PM ^
I think you're wrong on that one.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:35 AM ^
Grant Mason DB - 2003-2004 - Transferred from Stanford
Pontiac, MI (Orchard Lake St. Mary's H.S.)
Steven Threet QB - 2008 - Transferred from Georgia Tech
Adrian, MI
October 17th, 2012 at 12:02 PM ^
Stanford's a junior college?
Pricey JC, if I do say so myself.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:48 PM ^
According to Wikipedia, Stanford is a Junior University. /s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University
October 17th, 2012 at 11:35 AM ^
What's the reason for not accepting JUCO transfers but accepting other transfers?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:37 AM ^
It's a lot more difficult to transfer credits for JUCO courses than it is from four-year schools.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:46 AM ^
when the list was two Jucos and two transfers from 4 year schools. Admissions is very picky about giving credit for classes taken elsewhere. Players going the Juco route are not often going to have enough transferable credits to be eligible.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
Loads of regular students transfer from JUCO's to U-M every year. Basically, if they are taking real college classes (not remedial math/english or basket weaving 101) their credits will transfer (GPA doesn't).
The low number of transfers is more a coaching staff preference than an admissions issue (though a lot of the academically risky guys who end up at JUCO's in the first place probably aren't able to successfully complete an actual college curriculum in two years). Schools like Berkeley (Aaron Rodgers) and USC (Morgan Breslin this year stands out) have had success with a few JUCO guys, so I don't think academics are really much of a barrier. All the coaches we've had have just preferred 4 year guys. Another thing may be a lack of JUCO's that play high end football in the midwest compared with California and the odd hotbeds like Mississippi and Kansas.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:48 PM ^
Hoke took five Jucos in his last class at SDSU. RR took four in his last class at WVU.
We've had plenty of holes, especially during coaching transitions. Out of many, we filled one with a Juco, Russell Shaw. Jucos who are UM level football recruits and oustanding students are rare. The other Juco we took, Austin Panter, fit that description and Carr was happy to recruit him as a two year player. I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying Admissions is the reason we don't recruit more Jucos.
Those regular students that transfer Juco credits to UM aren't a good comparison. They mostly come from CCs in Michigan. UM is more willing to accept their classes and their students can know in advance which classes to take/avoid. Regular students don't have a problem if one or two of their classes don't transfer, (and remedial math is a common example). while athletes have to have a minimum number of credits transfer to be eligible. Also nearly all Juco athletes are there because of academic concerns and will typically need remedial courses.
I agree with your last point. If there were strong football programs in Michigan CCs we would likely have seen a few more Jucos here.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:39 PM ^
Granted, Michigan doesn't take a lot of transfers in general, but keep in mind that in the last few years, we pursued Greg Paulus and DeAnthony Arnett both as transfers, so it seems we'd have no problem taking guys like that.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:47 AM ^
Spencer Brinton
October 17th, 2012 at 11:39 AM ^
/S!!!1!!
October 17th, 2012 at 11:48 AM ^
Best juco transfer ever.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:03 PM ^
I second that
October 17th, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^
I hate to remind everyone. Steven Threet.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:57 AM ^
Wasn't Tacopants a transfer?
October 17th, 2012 at 12:01 PM ^
Mike Kerr was an offensive linemen from 86-87.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:03 PM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 12:12 PM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 10:29 PM ^
April 10th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^
He committed to MIchigan then went on a 2-year mission.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:13 PM ^
Ecker was at UM in 2000 and redshirted, spent two years on his mission, then played from 2003 through 2006.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:10 PM ^
Jonathan Goodwin was from South Carolina, but was on the Ohio U roster before transferring to Michigan. Not sure why he went to OU first; his big brother Harold Goodwin had graduated and was on the staff at EMU by the time Jonathan arrived. Note that Harold is now the OL coach for the Indianapolis Colts.
Justin Kurpeikis' (PSU) big brother Chris was on the Michigan roster for one season (1995) after being at Notre Dame. Don't know if he ever played.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:15 PM ^
Michigan - Hampton - Michigan, no?
October 17th, 2012 at 12:36 PM ^
Good catch.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:35 PM ^
Me.
I was a fairly avid partier in high school and despite good SAT scores I sported a whopping 1.7 GPA at Cranbrook and didnt get in initially. Spent two years at CMU, got my GPA up to a 3.8 and transferred in for my Junior year and earned my degree a year later.
Oh....you meant athletes. Sorry - never mind.
October 17th, 2012 at 2:17 PM ^
Your parents got a financial break when you left Cranbrook and enrolled in college.
October 17th, 2012 at 2:38 PM ^
My late father used to like to remind me and all his friends of that fact every time the subject of my education came up.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:18 PM ^
Love that Eminem line in the rap battle at the end of 8 mile.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
Do athletes who start out at other colleges but transfer to Michigan qualify as "Walmart Wolverines"?
/BOOM. RCMB'd
/Oh Saturday, please get here faster.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 12:49 PM ^
Wisconsin - Michigan
He was required to transfer by the Marine Corps for the V12 program during WWII. So not a transfer in the traditional sense.
Also:
Len Ford: Morgan State University - Michigan
Both are in the NFL HOF
October 17th, 2012 at 1:12 PM ^
I think the war or military service may have played a factor in a lot of players decision making. Two others from that era are renaissance man Don ZanFagna who transeferred from Army and Howard Yerges, a transfer from none other than Ohio St.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:58 PM ^
Heston has to be the best of this group. He went to San Jose Normal before following Yost to 'M'.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:09 PM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^
What is your point here? This is kind of a pointless thread. How about someone delete crap like this rather than things that actually matter or are interesting? I mean, its just a thought.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^
NOT posting about how we hate MSU, so somebody has to post something about something or we may actually have to go back to doing our jobs.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:57 PM ^
October 17th, 2012 at 2:18 PM ^
Fielding H Yost.
Lock this bitch.
October 17th, 2012 at 10:26 PM ^
Fred Brockington from UCLA. Ed Kasparek from Notre Dame.
October 18th, 2012 at 1:50 AM ^
Good Lord our all-time list is shorter than KState and Bamas annual average.
October 19th, 2012 at 4:10 PM ^
Rob Carreon QB from a California JC. Played a game or two in early 70's and got a broken jaw I believe.