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|16 weeks 4 days ago||Dean||
First off, I feel for the kid. Either way here, he is the loser.
Second, I think people on either side of the debate should back off their soap boxes for the time being until Urban is asked about this. For those defending Urban, there is no way to say with certainty what this kid's medical status is. This applies to those attacking Urban, too. I know this is a convenient time to cry foul, but very few people know the actual state of this kid's knee. I've had friends tear everything in their knee and be able to return to a sport the next season. I've also had teammates who've been told to hang em up after one serious knee injury. Every athlete's body is different and only they and their families and doctors can say what is best for them.
No matter what, a kid's dream of playing football at OSU is over, either by injury or coach's call. No one should take any joy in this moment.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||3 RBs||
It's honestly likely that all 3 will see the field at the same time. Think of it this way:
Walker = Elliott
Hill = Marshall
McCall = Wilson
In OSU's offense, all 3 of those plays can run the ball, but all 3 have slightly different positions. This is how the OSU staff views them.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Injuries||
Reeves did play in the Championship, but I don't know if he was injured again in any way during that game. They haven't announced anything specific yet, but I know the kid struggled with injury and missed multiple games this year because of it. So it's not like the kid was being forced to play week after week while the OSU staff knew he had an injury. When the medical staff cleared him to play, he played. When they didn't clear him, he didn't dress this season. Beyond that, no one besides Reeves, his family, and the program know when he was or wasn't injured or cleared. So to imply Meyer did anything "shady" in regards to Reeves is unfounded in fact.
I don't remember off the top of my head if Tanner played in the Championship. I know he was dinged all season and he may have worsened an injury at some point. You or I don't know the details, so it's pointless to say anything definitive.
Bogard's injuries are well known and discussed.
What is known, is that all three were contributers. Your statement , "if he didn't believe that someone else in that roster spot could contribute more?" doesn't make sense to me, because even if he thought someone coming on to the team could take their spot, it makes no sense to push them off them team over a 4th or 5th stringer. What your saying is that Meyer is willing to keep guys who can't even crack the rotation on special teams, but not the guys who earned game minutes? These are the three he is "cutting"? That's nonsense. Even if these guys lose their spot, they are more likely to contribute than many other guys on the team, especially if the guy who beat them gets injured. If Meyer was going to cut three players, it'd be three that never saw the field.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Meyer||
I haven't seen any cases yet where the player seemed to legitimately be pushed out. If Meyer was going to "push" someone out to make room, he has plenty of guys who have never even set foot on the field who he could use instead of 3 guys who have contributed. Tanner and Bogard are two of our best Special Teams players and Reeves was our starting nickel this year. No coach pushes out contributors. When you see it happen at Bama or wherever, it's 4th or 5th stringers who got "injured" in practice, not guys getting injured during key games like the Big Ten championship.
|25 weeks 5 days ago||Weber||
I really feel for the kid. It was obvious he was under a ton of pressure. It sounds like everyone around him was pushing him to go Michigan, but he had built a strong relationship with the OSU staff over time. Like has been said above, mind vs heart. It had to be the hardest thing he's ever done to announce in front of all the locals that he's leaving home, but I'm glad he made the decision for him.
I don't buy the excuse about Higdon at all, either. The RB room at OSU is stacked and Weber knows that as well as anyone. That was just a convenient reason he could give to take some heat off of him and I don't blame him one bit. I'm sure he's gotten hell the last two weeks and will probably keep getting it.
|30 weeks 14 hours ago||Nike v Adidas||
Let's be honest...is that extra few million $ going to really hurt Michigan? Speaking as someone who often coaches/works with teenagers, these kids view Nike as Ferrari and Adidas as Hyundai. It absolutely has an effect on recruiting and perception. After all, Nike just had one of the biggest on field commercials ever with the college football playoffs. 9 of the top 10 teams in the playoff rankings wore Nike this year, and kids notice.
Outside of that, fans/alumni do care. I'll be disgusted if OSU ever leaves Nike.
Does Michigan need the money that bad?
|30 weeks 2 days ago||Ed Warriner||
As long as OSU has Warinner coaching the OL, OSU's offense will never truly be shut down. Maybe slowed, but he is too good at molding O-Linemen. Recruits have noticed, too, and OSU's OL recruiting will only continue to be top notch while he's there.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||Coaching||
In my post, I addressed how the revisit made me really examine the differences in talent evaluation/development. Talent out of high school was probably a very small gap if any, but Urban's staff makes that talent mature and grow. Hoke's didn't. Talent can only go so far in sport like football.
|33 weeks 2 days ago||The Cold||
Honestly, your remark about the spread in November is curious since the OSU offense has put up 40+ against UM at the end of November the last two years. Also, the offense had no problem moving the ball against Minnesota in a 15 degree snow storm. I think you should re watch that game. The final score was much closer than the contest, mainly due to two Marshall turnovers. One, he fumbled while going into the end zone and the other, he muffed a punt on OSU's 12. Both were recovered by Minnesota. I also think that you must not have been watching the OSU offense much the last two years, as it has been more ManBall than UM's.
Also agree on the cyclical nature of college football. That's one of the best things about it, the roster completely turns over every few years. Michigan will have a stretch on top again.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||I don't really know how you||
I don't really know how you came to that conclusion, but I hope you have a great day.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||OSU Defense||
I don't disagree at all with you on the OSU defense. I think the coaching advantage of Mattison really shows in how he could make the unit much greater than the sum of its parts. Even so, the OSU D improced quite a bit from the year before with Ash calling things and a ton of underclassmen. I gotta think year two for him will have another jump.
Also agree in the speed at skill positions. While Meyer and Hoke have both been recruiting at a very high level as far as recruiting sites are concerned, Meyer was obviously recruiting very different types of players. Hoke was recruiting like it's 2001.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||The Game||
I think it's not hard to say that UM was the hungrier team the last two years coming into the game. They played with more motivation and fire than they did the rest of the year, easily. I aslo think that Hoke and his staff made it obvious that they were game-planning for Ohio State all year. UM always seemed more prepared against OSU than any other opponent. Hoke's greatest strength was that he got the rivalry, but it may have also been a huge weakness for him. His teams looked so bad against schools like Rutgers, but then came out and were ready to go against OSU.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Comparison||
RB - I don't think you realize how good Elliott was this year. He averaged 6.5ypc and ran for 1400 yards. He also caught 26 passes for over 200 yards. To put that in perspective, he had more catches than Jake Butt. With 4 new O-Linemen.
Defense - So, you wouldn't take Michael Bennett (All-American), Doran Grant (All-Conference), Darron Lee (Strong-Side LB, 13.5 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 2 INT), Josh Perry (Weak-Side LB, 113 tackles, 1 INT, 8.5 TFL, 3 sacks) , or Vonn Bell over their counterparts at UM? Why?
|33 weeks 3 days ago||LB||
The LB for me was tougher, but at the end of the day, it came down to what would I rather have:
a corps that was solid against the run, gave up the occasional big play, but made a lot of sacks, TFL, INT, and fumbles
a corps that was very good against the run, was generally in positionon any given play, but made almost no game-changing plays.
The UM LB corps had one INT and 2 forced fumbles. They weren't getting sacks much either. They were obviously well-coached (Mattison>Fickell), but they never seemed to be the catalyst between winning/losing. They were just constantly plugging holes. Now, I'm not saying this is in anyway bad, but I'd just take the occasional long run given up to go along with the more frequent big plays they made.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||This||
So much this. I am completely shocked that he has done nothing.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||LB's||
I think most would agree that Hull was the best LB in the conference this year. Ryan was still great, but I don't think he ever made it fully back to his former self from the injury. That combined with eith position swap limited him some. He wasn't nearly as explosive to my eyes. Ross didn't do anything of note that I saw. OSU's LB's played young and undisciplined, but also made a ton of big plays - combined for 33 TFL and had as many INT as UM's team combined.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Not trying to gloat, I just||
Not trying to gloat, I just enjoyed the discussion and analysis in my original thread. I'm really hoping to get thoughts on your roster's future.
|33 weeks 5 days ago||Academics||
I have no problem saying that UM is ahead of OSU academically. It is one of the finest public institutions in the world and I'm proud that I can say we strive to compete with the best. But let's be honest... there isn't a "bad" school in the Big Ten. Academics will always mean more to our conference than the rest of the power 5.
|35 weeks 1 day ago||I already said OSU shouldn't||
I already said OSU shouldn't be the #4 team. You're just proving my point that any team's struggles or losses can be explained away if you try. And rarely would anyone on MGoBlog ever "say what I want them to say". Most posters on here do comment rationally, though, present company excluded.
|35 weeks 1 day ago||See, the problem is that you||
See, the problem is that you can explain away any team's losses or struggles if you try. For example, OSU:
VT- second game for 4 new OL, RB (who played well), 2 WR, and RFr QB against a veteran coaching staff and defense who has since been hit hard by injuries.
Penn State- JT sprained his MCL before half when OSU was up 17-0. After the injury, the coaches went ultra conservative and still pulled out a win against a great defense in a tough environment.
Minnesota- played in a 15 degree snow storm on the road. OSU statistically dominated the game, but had 2 freak turnovers inside its own 20 and fumbled another while going into the end zone. All resulted in a score much closer than the game actually was.
Indiana- OSU got up 14-0 within 5 minutes and relaxed the week before playing Michigan. Had a WR fumble inside our 30 which gave Indiana life and then Tevin Coleman busted two long TD runs. Otherwise he was held to less than 3.5 yards a carry. OSU woke up in the 4th and ran away with the game.
Michigan- should need no explanation as to why OSU got a game from UM.
You can do this with any team in the country. I could even throw out the blanket statement that OSU's playmakers are predominately freshman and sophomores. At the end of the day, your arguments come off as biased and sour grapes, lacking reasoned thought. A lot of your fellow UM fans on here are saying the same.
|35 weeks 1 day ago||Logic||
You've been very emotional, yes, but you haven't logically explained why Texas, WVU, OK State, etc. are good or statement wins.
ESNY's post above sums up my thoughts perfectly.
|35 weeks 1 day ago||OSU||
Ohio State is not a top 4 team with Jones at QB. They won't pass TCU and shouldn't. No team with their third string QB should.
Logically, though, why is TCU's schedule so much better than OSU's? K-State was an impressive win, but more impressive than MSU? They barely clipped Oklahoma at home who is a decent team. They also barely beat Kansas who is terrible. OK State is average. Beating Texas by a ton is commonplace these days. Look at what BYU did to them. The Minny game was a good win at home. From Jerry Kill's own mouth, Minny shot themselves in the foot that whole game. OSU went to Minny and won in a blizzard. Is that less impressive? Ohio State got more of a game from Michigan than Vegas expected. Why does that surprise a Wolverine fan? WVU was a decent win, I guess, but the only reason anyone has given them any credit is because they gave Bama a game. They didn't win, but they played well. Other than that, WVU has done a lot of meh.
|35 weeks 5 days ago||Almost every team since VT||
Almost every team since VT has tried the same game plan to some extent. OSU adjusted and it doesn't work anymore. In fact, OSU has torched the bear D every time it's been trotted it since.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Not really...||
I'd say this has a lot more to do with being scared of Wisconsin or a potential playoff opponent than UM...
|37 weeks 7 hours ago||Clark||
Brian, my main question for you is would you feel this way for a player who beat his girlfriend/wife/whatever that didn't play for Michigan?
I feel no sympathy for anyone who chooses to assault another human being out of anger. It is never the least bit excusable. And while you aren't excusing the action, you are excusing the person who chose the action and I cannot agree. I won't say Clark is a terrible human, but it takes a certain kind of man to beat a (potentially) pregnant woman. Bad upbringing? Whatever, he still has a choice. My Dad grew up in an abusive children's home and didn't believe he'd live to see 15. He had plenty of violent urges, but never acted on them. He doesn't deserve a medal, but I can say he's a better man than Frank Clark.
Also, you'll call someone an asshole for calling a woman-beater a waste, but not the actual woman-beater? Noted.
|37 weeks 7 hours ago||Probably my favorite MGoBlog||
Probably my favorite MGoBlog comment ever.
|39 weeks 1 day ago||Look closer||
Out of those 3, one was in a year of the worst OSU team of my lifetime (which he lost to) and the next was because OSU and PSU were ineligible and he finished behind both in the division. It's not like he was lighting the Big 10 on fire.
|39 weeks 1 day ago||Yes, please||
Please, Lord, make this happen.
-signed, every Ohio State fan
|40 weeks 16 hours ago||Scut||
He had yellow eyes. YELLOW EYES!
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Food for Thought||
Shane Morris' completion percentage for his high school career. Never had a season higher than 54% and started all four years (IIRC). And yes I know he missed half of his senior year. Before he went out, he had 6 TDs and 6 INTs. He honestly was the most overrated QB in that class. Yes, mono and so on. But the kid really wasn't as good as his ranking.