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|8 hours 27 min ago||Minny||
You all will beat Minnesota next week. They are the best possible team for UM because of the match ups. They have no passing game and your D will own them. UM will win by multiple scores and some false hope will be injected.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Spence||
I struggle saying if barring him from the team is the right thing to do or not. I don't really buy the "he's got a medical issue/addiction", but I do know that the way Urban handled it with Spence's family makes it seem like there's more going on. I also don't think Spence is out there repping with the first team. "Practicing" can mean a lot of different things and Urban certainly isn't going to waste reps on someone who most likely won't play this year. If I have to guess, Spence is scout teaming it or doing drill work.
I would honestly say the Hyde suspensions were harsher than the Mewhort/Stoneburner punishments. Hyde really lost out on some opportunities because of it and had to beat out multiple players to start again. He was never actually charged with anything, but Urban made him sit anyway.
|3 days 1 hour ago||Tress||
Personally, Tress was much worse on discipline. He gave guys ridiulous amounts of chances.
Ramzy wrote a great piece on it:
|3 days 2 hours ago||Agreed||
You're right, he's our coach and every fanbase is blindly supportive to a point.
Honestly, I know the man isn't a saint. He is as ruthless as they get when it comes to winning, which winning big in college requires. But I know that if we start getting the arrest record that Florida had, me and most of the fans I know will demand answers.
|3 days 2 hours ago||NCAA Standards||
What you posted is actually the consequences for failing an NCAA drug test. Above the table in that link it clearly states:
Consequences of a Positive NCAA Drug Test:
Michigan's policy is much more lenient -
- The first offense results in a 10-percent forfeiture of one's season. The second is 33 percent of the year and the third means the player will miss the entire season.
10-percent of a football season is a game and half, so Spence's 3 games was much worse for his first offense.
|3 days 2 hours ago||So...||
So when Urban suspends a player when the Big Ten wouldn't he's a liar and a douchebag and when the Big Ten suspends a player who fails their test, Urban is somehow a liar and a douchebag? And I don't blame OSU and the Spence family for challenging it, their kid said he was slipped something. Any parent/coach would stick up for the kid, especially when he's had no past issues.
It's no different than any other school who says they will handle punishment when all the facts are processed. The Big Ten and OSU will make a decision on Spence probably within the next few days, most likely ending his college career. Most Buckeye fans I know don't expect him to play another game at OSU.
|3 days 2 hours ago||Link||
No worries, it's to be expected. I enjoy the conversation.
I have to say it, though - MGoBlog is better than Matt Hayes links.
But the article doesn't really confirm much for me other than what I already said. Meyer has improved his discipline and handle of the team at Ohio State. I haven't found an article yet that talks about him sweeping major NCAA violations under the rug with any kind of evidence. The Hayes article has a lot of he said/he said and states known facts like Florida's arrest record to try to make it seem more concrete, but very little meat. There are a lot of quotes labeled as being from "former players" or "sources".
Florida under Urban was obviously a problem. Too many arrests, too many problems handled "in-house". Ohio State under Urban has been quite different. Until he proves otherwise, I'm not going to call the man a "deal with the devil".
|3 days 3 hours ago||Bare Minimum||
He was suspended for 3 games (Clemson and VT would've been 2 of the biggest games of his career and we lost both) for his first failure and his suspension is still up in the air for his second... how is that bare minimum?
|3 days 3 hours ago||Stretch||
I would classify keeping your starting LT and TE away from the team until the season started as putting the team in danger of losing games. Especially since they had not played a single game in Urban's system yet.
As for your second paragraph, that's strictly opinion and since I don't personally know the man I can't counter it. And even if I could, I doubt it would change your mind.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Wait and See||
It means he's waiting to see what the decision from OSU/Big Ten should be before he cuts the kid off.
And if you don't care about mild drug use, how does Spence practicing make competition unfair and unequal? If you're referring to the Mitch McGary suspension, that was from the NCAA and has nothing to do with Urban. Your gripe should be with the NCAA.
|3 days 4 hours ago||Links?||
|3 days 4 hours ago||Florida Discipline||
I agree that while at Florida he had a lot of off the field issues and wasn't as rigid on discipline as he should have been, but now going on 3 seasons at OSU, it hasn't been an issue. In fact, I think some OSU fans would say he's been too heavy-handed with most situations in an effort to stem any trends. The Mewhort and Stoneburner suspension surprised a lot of people for how hard he came down for peeing outside.
I don't see the "deal with the devil" as Meyer has not had a history with major NCAA issues and has obviously handled discipline well for 3 years. I was a little worried when he was first hired, but I don't think Meyer will suddenly change his stance on it either just to "win at all costs". For example, he could have cleared the Hyde suspension after no charges came down, but he didn't, and it may have cost Hyde the Heisman.
|3 days 5 hours ago||Honest Question...||
I know the big thing on here is "Urban is a douchebag who lets his players get away with everything!", but I don't see how his stance on discipline has been less than anything Hoke has done. Spence sat his three games and then it came out that he failed another test. OSU/the Big Ten haven't announced anything yet on next steps, so Urban is in wait-and-see mode. How is this different than what Hoke did with Toussaint? He let him practice with the team before suspending him from the Alabama game:
|3 days 5 hours ago||Clarification||
OSU was in no way trying to score. It was 4th down and rather than punt with 6 seconds left on the clock, Urban told Cardale to kill time with his legs and then heave it out of bounds. Cardale has a cannon and by the time the ball came down, the clock had run out. The announcers discussed this strategy before the play and the cameras even caught Urban talking to Jones about it before the snap. The ball landed 5 yards out of bounds, so it was not exactly an attempt for a score.
OSU could have scored 100 easily in this game if they wanted to, but they spent the entire second half running up the middle on almost every down. They also started putting back ups in during the third series.
|3 days 8 hours ago||PSU Fans||
Now if you can get your fans to be as civil as other fans are to you:
Penn State fans are the worst I've encountered in 30+ road games in the Big Ten.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Context||
This takes the quote out of context. Here's the full quote:
|1 week 4 days ago||Trolls||
I try to post reasonably and civilly and generally only do from time to time when I am interested in a specific discussion. As a visitor, which I will always consider myself, I find trolls here almost as annoying as I would at 11W. I am here for the discussion and true trolls ruin it.
Although, there are some here who probably consider me a troll.
|1 week 5 days ago||Competition||
Whatever coach came would be facing a dug-in Franklin, Dantonio, and Meyer in the West. Not to mention revamped recruiting competition from Kelly at ND. He'd also be inheriting Hoke's worst recruiting class since his first. You already lost your top two commits and Chris Clark has said he will start taking visits. The cubbard is not much more stocked now talent-wise than it was when Hoke got there, although everyone wants to believe it is. Year 4 and that 'talent' isn't making a dent.
|1 week 5 days ago||PSU||
I don't think PSU is a "better" job, but it was more attractive. Franklin and O'Brien had a free pass to build their teams slowly no matter their records because 1) the sanctions and 2) Penn State doesn't hold the cache of Michigan. Penn State fans may think it does, but the rest of college football doesn't put them in the same category historically. Also, Penn State is in a better state for recruiting with no in-state rival and more D1 players. PSU also historically has good access to recruits in Virginia, New Jersey, and Maryland. They can also pay just as much as Michigan. Finally, they don't HAVE to beat ND, MSU, and OSU for their season to be considered a success, at least not for the near future.
Any coach brought in by Michigan will have national attention constantly and be expected to win and soon. If Hoke is fired and Michigan's next coach can't return the team to prominence within the first few years, Michigan will have had roughly a 15 year stretch of mediocrity. No recruits will remember UM's glory years and the program will have faded into the background, maybe permanently. What coach wants that pressure with an uphill battle in recruiting, academics, and competition? Sure someone will, but not a top 10 guy. Michigan is not more attractive than Texas A&M, South Carolina, Florida, UCLA, Auburn, etc.
|1 week 5 days ago||Tough Spot||
Hoke is in no tougher a spot than any other multimillionaire coach of a big time program.
|1 week 5 days ago||Bravo to you, sir||
This is one of the best MGoBlog comments I've ever read.
|1 week 6 days ago||Beating OSU||
Not being a homer, but I find it curious that any UM fan expects Hoke to win big road games at this point.
|1 week 6 days ago||Hoke||
It's obvious to pretty much every non-UM fan I know that Brady Hoke will never win a National Title. That should tell UM fans all they need to know about whether to keep him or not.
Can Brady go 9-3 or 8-4 this year? Sure. Is that good enough for Michigan in year 4 of a coach's tenure?
|1 week 6 days ago||Question...||
First a note: I will get negged to oblivion for this, but I'm not trolling or trying to be a dick.
Is Michigan still a destination job? I'm hoping for unbiased, thought out answers. I think it is no longer a top-level destination. The last 7 years have done a lot of harm to Michigan's perception nationally. Obviously, money is not an issue in a coaching search, but Michigan has a lot of factors stacked against it: The Big Ten blows, Dave Brandon, uphill batlle against its 3 biggest rivals who are all ahead roster-wise, not known as a recruiting hotbed, high school kids now weren't alive when Michigan last won a title...
I don't see a Miles, Harbaugh, or Sumlin level coach coming to UM unless they throw out highest-in-America money.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||OSU Secondary||
Never said they'd be fine, just that if they aren't, it's not for lack of talent.
I do expect a better secondary this year, though, if for no other reason than that it can't get much worse. I don't think Ash is a cure-all, but I do think there were obvious scheme/coaching issues last year. Clemson and Michigan screened us to death and the D coaches couldn't seem to figure it out. I expect OSU to make a fair amount of improvement against the pass, but they certainly won't be dominant like some fans are expecting. If nothing else, the D-Line will be one year older and more experienced so I expect them to cause even more havoc.
In regards to last year's highly rated, highly panned players, I think it's fair to say that Pitt Brown is worse than Von Bell (who started over him as a true freshman in the Orange Bowl) and Cam Burrows because he couldn't even sniff heavy minutes until he was a red-shirt senior. Even then, it was only due to injuries in front of him. Both of these guys are true sophomores battling for starting spots in a secondary with not much less depth than what Brown had to compete against. That convinces me these guys are getting it sooner than Brown ever did.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Webb||
Webb is a true freshman and the coaches want him to get stronger. They've been impressed with his coverage skills, though.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Safeties are young, but loaded||
Safeties are young, but loaded. Tyvis Powell (game-clinching INT in last year's Game) is starting at one spot and Vonn Bell and Cam Burrows are competing for the other. They are all large, fast guys. Bell and Burrows were both top 30-type players and got playing time last year. Their backups are senior Ron Tanner, who has been serviceable, and Erick Smith, true freshman out of Glenville who has really impressed the coaches with his coverage and willingness to bring the wood.
If OSU has a repeat of last year's secondary, it won't be for lack of talent.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Not untrue||
But I believe it has more to do with their talent. Urban is a fan of both. Afterall, they're both large, athletic, highly rated CBs. 5 and 4 star respectively. Competing against each other appears to have brought out the best in each.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Green, Kalis, Thomas||
John Cooper wasn't the best coach ever, but he was a great talent evaluator. This quote by him applies:
"If a dog's gonna bite, he's gonna bite as a pup"
From watching Michigan last year, Smith was the better runner compared to Green, so I'm not surprised there. But it's head scratching that Kalis and Thomas aren't performing. I thought Thomas would be a game changer for you guys.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Enough||
Enough to go 12-2.