FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
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|5 weeks 3 days ago||This pic is hillarious. Gotta||
This pic is hillarious. Gotta admit that the Ohio mascot kid had balls.
But I have to throw in, this was his second attempt. On the first attempt, this happened:
|9 weeks 6 days ago||This is, frankly, strange. A||
This is, frankly, strange. A Michigan State alum I work with joined via the groupon just so he can mock Michigan fans who've always lauded the benefits of the Michigan network to him. If this was Ohio State, I'd be upset.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Gardner||
I absolutely agree that Gardner could thrive in OSU's system. The play calling would be different and it would be interesting to see if the OSU WRs would be up to the task because you have to think more passing plays and less read option would be called.
On the flip side, I don't think any QB was going to thrive for Borges last year. End of the day, I like Braxton better for our system. He brings an X-Factor that opposing defenses have to account for that I don't think Gardner can bring. We'll never know.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||This||
I've done a lot of work in wealth management and can say that doctors and lawyers seem to have a higher percentage of financial idiots than other professions. I've had a number that made in the mil a year range and had less than 10k in savings.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||This is exactly the kind of post||
This is exactly the kind of post I was hoping for. I had forgotten about all of UM's LBs and the production from Countess and Taylor. Alright, you've convinced me, I'll call both of those for UM and edit my OP.
The QB spot, I'm still in disagreement. I think UM fans underate Braxton as a passer. He isn't Manning or Brady, but he's made huge strides since his freshman year. Sure part of that is because his running ability opens up opportunites, but that's part of his overall package. And I can't penalize him for having a better RB and OL than Gardner. Everything people say about Gardner is somewhat a "what if?" because with his OL we haven't been able to see him really put it together. That doesn't mean I'm going to assume he would be the outright best QB in the Big Ten, though.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks||
I 'preciate it.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Hypothetical||
I have to ask the question, based on your last sentence... how long does Hoke have before being fired and what is the breaking point? Is it two more years without a Big Ten title or something more along the lines of 2 more years of 7-5 or worse? Really, what does Michigan's record need to be for him to keep the job.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Arvada BW3||
There's a Bdubs in Arvada that is owned by a Buckeye alum. He sections off a chunk of the place for OSU fans on game days and offers discounts. The servers all wear OSU (they know how to get tips) on game day and there is Buckeye memorabilia everywhere. Plus, he opens the place at 9:00am on gamedays when OSU kicks at 12:00EST. Other fans are always welcome, too...we've had fans from 30-40 other schools in with us and it's perfectly fine. Even UM fans.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I do||
Absolutely agreed. That's the main reason I posted this here instead of 11W. You guys know the UM players and the trends from spring better than I do.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||DL Depth||
Most expect OSU to go 8-10 deep on the DL easily. The wave after the starters is:
DE - Jamal Marcus/Tyquan Lewis
DT - Tommy Schutt
DT - Michael Hill/Joel Hale
DE - Steve Miller
Hill and Lewis do not have game time yet (redshirts), but both had awesome springs and will play. Marcus is a beast athlete who most fans don't consider a big dropoff from Noah Spence. He and Tommy Schutt have starting experience. Miller has played a lot of snaps the last two years. He is good at either DE position and had 3 sacks off the bench last year.
A note on Hale is that he may be switching to OL. He played a good amount of spring there, but has starting experience on the DL and will probably switch back if he doesn't crack the 2-deep on OL. He's a true hole plugger at DT.
All in all, this is probably the deepest and most talented DL at OSU in my lifetime.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Congrats||
Hope everyone is happy and healthy
|10 weeks 4 days ago||LB/CB||
I'll gladly concede the LB comparison once I see that Ryan is back to being able to play 100mph. He's the most proven LB between the two teams, easily.
The CB group at Michigan is solid, but not great. I don't think they frighten any other teams. Peppers, if he plays CB, has the talent to be an early All-American. Same if he plays S. I just didn't know where he will play, plus I have a harder time attributing that much to someone who isn't on campus yet. I didn't factor any OSU recruits in either.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Analysis||
It's not, it's completely subjective. A big part of comparing UM and OSU's underperforming units is that I think OSU can fix the secondary sooner/easier than UM can fix the OL.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Limited Options||
To his credit, he only lived in Alabama until he was 5. Ironically, he lived in Detroit for the next 20 years.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Fanbases||
I agree with what you say about opposite fanbases mostly. I took the Nebraska fans thoughts more seriously because he is in-conference and has seen our teams the last few years. Other fanbases are less biased tham I am, though, so that's why I wanted any feedback I could get.
As far as the RBs go, half of my choice to give OSU the edge is from going on what I saw. I watched every UM game last year and none of the RBs impressed me much. I liked Deveon Smith the best and thought he needed more carries. But between him and Rod Smith, who has seen game time against Big Ten teams, and Deveon and EE, I'd take the OSU backs on potential. Unfortunately, both teams have inexperienced RBs so it's not as easy as comparing Hyde and Fitz would have been. So just on sight alone, that was my feel.
Slightly related, is Green going to be in better shape this year?
|10 weeks 4 days ago||This||
This is a great post. I completely crapped the bed and forgot TE. I agree with your assessment there.
Your last paragraph is pretty spot on, too. This is a hard analysis to do because of the youth and coaching aspects.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||RDT||
If I remember right, didn't a lot of people like RDT at first? And I don't think I post enough for that.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Both||
I agree with you. I don't like devolving it down to recruting stars as we all know they aren't the be all end all. I tried to use a mixture of performance, perceived talent (read: recruit stars), and perceived athleticism. 2 of those are completely subjective. I know it makes my post weaker, but I mainly wanted to get feedback and discussion and to learn about what UM fans think of your roster.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Subjective||
My entire post is completely opinion. To try to cut down on the homerism, I got feedback from three coworkers (Oregon, Nebraska, and Alabama fans) before posting and they thought I was spot on.
Honestly, I don't think there is a fanbase in America besides UM that would say Gardner and Miller are a wash.
Here are the RB comparisons:
Every Ohio State back has a better average than every UM back. Yes we had a better line, but our 3rd stringer has better stats than your starters. And UM is all about the Pro, Manball game
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Braxton||
I think Gardner has slightly better passing talent, but makes worse decisions. His interception numbers show that. Running-wise, Braxton has a much bigger gap in talent. He is one of the most dangerous open field runners in college football. I do agree with you that Gardner may be a better pro prospect, though, as Braxton is more talented for the college game, but doesn't translate as well to the NFL.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Urban||
I believe the original heart attack scare he had because my grandfather had the exact same situation happen. He was having heart attack symptoms and when we took him to the hospital he was given the same answer that Urban was given. The following year, when he stepped down for good, I don't know. Whether it was truly for health, or maybe family reasons, or maybe the grind of the SEC, I would believe any or all of them. Something had obviously taken a toll on him because he looked like he'd aged ten years in two. I know some people throw out the "Urban was having an affair" rumor and I honestly would believe that, too. I have a buddy with some insight into the program and he says there is a definite difference between Urban at Florida and Urban now at Ohio State. That he's looser/happier. Whatever it was, Urban needed a change and we were on the winning end of it.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Defense||
I don't disagree at all. I think it's a strong indictment of OSU's defensive coaching last year. The secondary was never in sync with the rest of the D and they rarely adjusted. The Orange Bowl proved this perfectly. Just looking at talent alone, there was no way UM should have been a better D than OSU last year. We had two first rounders fergodsakes.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Hypothetical||
If my kid had an offer from UM and wanted to go, I wouldn't try to dissuade him. UM is a great school academically and he would have great opportunities after. That would be my first priority. If he asked me what I thought about Hoke, I'd express concern that he may not be there, but I wouldn't worry about it as much because he'd still get a great education at UM no matter who the coach is.
And OSU will never keep every kid from leaving. OSU will keep most of the ones they want, but there will always be the occasional kid who wants to do something different.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||3....||
3. I get the opinion that Hoke can't close from here. Seems like everyone here complains that Hole never fills those last few spots with the big names he's targeting and posters say he doesn't close.
4. The expectation wasn't for 2 championships because we weren't eligible for the post season Urban's first year. He exceeded expectations by going undefeated, though. And Hoke is a good coach, but no matter what he won't have as long a leash with recruits as Urban. Urban's got proven national success.
I agree with you overall, I wasn't trying to imply Hoke won't recruit well. But I do want Michigan fans' opinions on it. Do you think Hoke is kept on if they go 7-6 again?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Honest Question...||
Do you all think the gig is up on Hoke and recruiting? In the past, he has landed the meat of his classes early, including the top guys. He has not showed himself as a closer. Do you think the last two seasons have caught up to him with recruits?
|20 weeks 5 days ago||Of course.||
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Wimbush||
Ohio State seems to be pushing hardest for 5* Torrance Gibson now. I'd have to say he is our #1 choice. After that, Wimbush and Lorenzo Nunez out of GA are OSU's other main pursuits. It also seems OSU is looking to take 2 QB's this year.
Wimbush is an awesome kid and a great prospect. Would love for him to be in scarlet and gray.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||Hoke||
I guess I shouldn't assume you would consider it a major issue. I know our fanbase would consider it a big problem if a player is facing a university investigation and Urban didn't know. As you stated, Gibbons had games left in his career that he would miss. And while the University is being tight-lipped to the public, what reason would they have to not keep his coach in the loop? It's a major issue to me because if Hoke didn't know, it means there isn't communication between the administration and the coaching staff about players.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Your Comment||
I don't disagree. But there's a time for everything and I just don't think now is the time for that retort. Many in other fanbases would look at your comment as a sour grapes, "Hey they do it too" sentiment. I apologize for the confusion, that's why I phrased it as not being the time for "anything that resembles" that type of comment.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Hoke||
I mean this in the politest way possible; if Hoke didn't know that Gibbons was being considered for expulsion, that's a major issue. Also, calling an expulsion by the school due to sexual assault a "family issue" is a shame. An that's exactly what Hoke did for the bowl game. Yes, I suppose it is an issue for Gibbons' family, but as many others on here have stated, it could have been more accurately described as a violation of program rules or something similar. Also, your assuming Hoke held him out of the Ohio State game for an unrelated matter. I'll allow that there is a chance something else held Gibbons out of the game, but that seems unlikely (and I think most Michigan fans will agree). So if Hoke knew Gibbons was being considered for expulsion and called it an injury issue, he lied. If he didn't know the status of his player within the university, there are some internal issues. No matter what, that's a lose-lose for Michigan.
As far as the third possibility, the woman obviously thinks she was raped. I don't really know what else to say in regards to what is and isn't sexual assault. No matter what, no one wins.