Hello From The Future: JJ McCarthy
This was going to go up yesterday and then a nuclear bomb dropped. For the survivors picking out from the wreckage, hopefully this post serves as a pick-me-up. So, yeah: on Saturday Michigan picked up their most-touted quarterback recruit since Drew Henson when IL QB JJ McCarthy committed while on a visit. Let's play the feud!
GURU RANKINGS
Rivals | ESPN | 24/7 | Composite |
NR | NR | 5*, #19 overall #2 Pro QB, #1 IL |
N/A |
This far out only 24/7 is willing to offer a ranking. FWIW, the guy in front of McCarthy is Sam Huard, Brock Huard's nephew. You are old! Unless you are not.
As you're about to see in the next section, 24/7's ranking is unlikely to be an outlier. McCarthy did one of the Rivals-exclusive camps and came out of it with a ton of effusive praise.
SCOUTING
McCarthy is in the burgeoning tradition of Harbaugh quarterbacks who are pocket passers with at least decent wheels. In McCarthy's case the comparison everyone wants to make is currently on the roster. Barton Simmons said he was in the "Shea Patterson mold" in an analysis post after the commit:
"In today's game where quarterbacks need to be able to play outside the pocket and show athleticism and throw off platform and use different arm angles, I think those are things that he's really capable of,” …watch what he's doing athletically, the arm talent, the accuracy, I think the complete picture is pretty compelling.”
Allen Trieu also brought up Patterson as a comparison point:
…good velocity. Snappy, quick release. …understands the game and takes great care of the football. …Will make throws with pressure in his face. …shows escapability in the pocket … able to throw on the move and use different angles to get passes off around pressure. Velocity does not suffer when he does not have time to set his feet. …needs to add weight
…one of the most talented quarterbacks to come through the Midwest in the last several cycles. …not too dissimilar to Shea Patterson as far as styles of play.
And Rivals had an entire article comparing the two, with the sophomore in high school apparently having the edge:
McCarthy is one of the most accurate passers you'll ever see and he's just a sophomore. As good as Patterson was in that area in high school, McCarthy is better. Both are also gunslingers. They'll run around outside of the pocket, throw against the grain and make catchable throws from a variety of arm angles.
Comparing a sophomore season to Patterson's entire high school career and saying the sophomore is better sounds like fluffy hyperbole, but it's not limited to just that piece. Steve Wiltfong called McCarthy "maybe the nation's most accurate QB regardless of class," and one of their rankings guys is all about it:
In going through the 2021 QB's for our last Top247 release, I thought McCarthy had the most impressive sophomore season of the bunch https://t.co/OQHWyss6DK
— Charles Power (@CharlesPower) May 11, 2019
And it takes one glance at a number to confirm McCarthy's accuracy both inside and outside the pocket led to a 77% completion percentage last year. That seems impossible unless his high school's offense runs a truly astounding number of screens. Even if they run the maximum number possible that's still an eye-popping mark.
McCarthy was the QB MVP of the Rivals camp he attended, beating out a number of guys a year older than him. There, too, accuracy was the primary refrain. Helmholdt:
… combination of velocity and accuracy that is rare in upperclass prospects …put footballs in places that looked unreachable.
…[threw] marvelous passes consistently despite frigid temperatures and untimely winds. …delivers smooth passes with zip and touch, depending on the throw. He's got plenty of arm strength to make accurate throws and his ball placement is uncanny -- on both short throws and downfield.
…great frame, big hands and is a plus athlete and really can make every single throw that a QB needs to make. He was able to place the ball in small windows, throw with a lot of velocity and also put great touch on the deep ball.
Friedman also reported that WRs were "cutting in line" to make sure they got matched up with McCarthy. He got an invite to their Opening equivalent and is a "sure bet to be a nationally ranked quarterback," which is a phrase that implies he'll be way up their rankings even if it literally means nothing.
In addition to the whiz-bang stats and camp accolades, McCarthy has a couple of traits that should endear him to Harbaugh and make him well suited for the gunmetal gray skies of late November. One is that he's used to cold temperatures and high winds. The Rivals camp reports went out of their way to note that it was a gray, windy day in which McCarthy excelled.
The other is toughness. McCarthy grew up playing hockey and that mentality apparently stuck:
"I injured my thumb on the Wednesday before the state title game. I just got my thumb caught in one of the linemen's helmet on my follow-through. I was able to tape it up and glove it and that worked well enough that I was able to still throw the football. The hardest part of playing with the thumb was catching snaps, otherwise I handled it. I had surgery on my thumb a few days after the state title game and everything went really well with the surgery."
McCarthy was 15/24 for 201 yards, in the state title game, a few days after injuring his throwing hand so badly it would later need surgery. Okay. His QB coach credits his background for his slippery pocket-breaking ability:
“He’s got an uncanny ability to put balls into small windows even when he’s not in the ideal situation." …
"He wasn’t a very big kid playing hockey, and I think probably one of the things that has benefited him playing quarterback is being able to skate away from guys who are probably coming to just clean him up," Holcomb said. "He’s got very good instincts to move in the pocket and almost anticipate when things are breaking down. He also has good patience to stay in there and let things develop even when there’s a lot of chaos around him.”
And while he does reference Patterson he's not settling for just that. Go big or go home, sir:
…Holcomb sees the comparisons between McCarthy and Michigan's starting quarterback, Shea Patterson.
"(Shea's) a thrower that just has the ability to move well, buy himself time, he moves great in the pocket, and J.J. is kinda the same way," Holcomb said. "McCarthy reminds me of a guy that throws like (Drew) Brees but moves around like Baker (Mayfield).”
That would be the greatest quarterback in the history of football. This is what I now expect.
[After THE JUMP: highlights you should actually watch]
OFFERS
Iowa State offered McCarthy when he was in middle school, and from there the offers poured in. The one off note in McCarthy's recruitment is how it unfolded. He was supposedly favoring Notre Dame; Notre Dame took CA QB Tyler Buchner. He was supposedly favoring Ohio State; Ohio State took PA QB Kyle McCord. Whether that was faulty intel or schools choosing guys currently ranked about 80 spots lower than him is unknown.
HIGH SCHOOL
Nazareth Academy has sent a smattering of players to high-level schools, most notably Notre Dame CB Julian Love. They've also had a handful of three-stars who've ended up at mid-tier Big Ten programs or Rutgers.
STATS
Absurd: as a sophomore in high school McCarthy had 39 TDs, 4 INTs, and a 77% completion rate(!!!). As you'll see in the highlights below, there were a ton of deep shots in those completions. With almost 3500 yards on 240 attempts, McCarthy had 14.4 YPA. Yowza.
FAKE 40 TIME
I did not see one.
VIDEO
Yes, okay, all right. Yes.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Sounds like it's when, not if, with McCarthy. The stats and scouting both point to a can't miss prospect.
When McCarthy arrives Michigan will have an incumbent starter who's likely to be very good and therefore not displaceable. Who that is will determine how quickly McCarthy can get on the field. In the likely event that it's Dylan McCaffrey, McCarthy would be fighting for the starting job as a redshirt freshman. Since it is 2019 and quarterbacks bolt at the drop of the hat I would not expect at least one of the guys who would be older than him to be around.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
McCarthy is Michigan's second 2021 commit; he joins instate lineman Giovanni El-Hadi, who is a top 100 player on 24/7 currently. Nailing down a five-star QB this early often pays off as recruits flock to the banner. One guy in particular to keep an eye on is IL WR AJ Henning, a top 100 slot guy in 2020 who was also on campus this weekend. Guys tweet out "COULD I COMMIT TO THIS SCHOOL?!?!?" without it meaning much but Henning did it twice, so… eh, maybe? MD OL Ryan Linthicum, who's the top center in the 2021 class, also tweeted out the eyes emoji.
Most touted since Ryan Mallett?
Is this a credible poster in umbig11 style?
A ghost is posting on Mgoblog and your first question is "is he credible"?
well it was all over counterstrike
Yes.
This is totally irrelevant and meaningless but it's been driving me crazy with all of the emphasis on the completion percentage. His highlights say he completed 182 of 240 passes...which is 75.8%!! The 77% placed right next to it is off, even if you round up! Clearly do not want /s
Pull back the offer
So I'm trying to figure out whether you did that math in your head or if you're the type to pull out a calculator every time you see a fraction.
...do other people not do that?
The fact-check here actually isn't too hard to do in one's head. The fraction reduces easily to 91/120, i.e. just barely over 3/4. So 77% would plausibly strike a non-weirdo as too high.
Why would I do all of that though?
Can we please get some elite OT now that McCarthy has committed... please....
Like the Top-100 OL in his class the post mentions?
is it the samples of plays on film, or is his OL really leaky? seems like he scrambled almost always.
He'll fit right in then.
logged in just to upvote this. ?
"This is Lawrence. This is Lawrence, Kansas. Is there anybody there? Anybody at all?"
For anyone in the know - what kind of competition does Nazareth Academy go up against?
Decent to not great. They are in a catholic school league which is ok, but I don’t recall them playing any of he top catholic school football teams like mt Carmel etc.
disclaimer: I went to the public school in the area, LT, just down the street from Naz.
They won state in 7A last year, which is the second-largest class in Illinois.
They're going up against teams like Jerusalem, Moab, Gethsemane, Jericho, Damascus, and Samaria. There's a lot of history there. A real murderers row.
Agreed. It's like a religion to them.
Recruits often look good on paper, but Michigan has a whole string of them stacked up at this point. You just have to hit on one of every three, so chances are good we will be set at QB for the next 6 or so years. Finally!
I hope he can be weaned off those Forcier/Gardner like crazy blind spins in the pocket.
At 77% completion rate with passes like that his WR must be really good. I'm seeing lots of downfield jump balls his guys are winning. Hopefully, his WR at Michigan can match that.
I can still never read Linthecum as anything but a lispy version of Big Time Timmy Jim. Now I have to go through another cycle of it.
Michigan's QB depth looks phenomenal for the foreseeable future.
If you want a good laugh, watch the play in his highlight video that starts at 2:33. It's from the Nazareth vs. Simeon game in the 7A Quarters. Notice the weird, second side judge celebrating the touchdown.
Apparently, a Nazareth parent, who is an IHSA football official, showed up at the game. And was dressed in his full ref uniform. And was somehow allowed on the sidelines. And "assisted" the assigned refs throughout the game. And taunted the Simeon players after they lost a heartbreaker on several questionable-at-best calls.
It reads like The Game from 2016, only if all the quiet parts were said aloud.
At any point did this pseudo official pat a Nazareth player on the rear end?
How are his basketball coaching skills?
In reference to the highest recruit since Henson, wasn't Dylan McCaffrey ranked as the #1 QB at the time he committed?
Maybe by one service. But I thought Henne and Mallett (Mallett for sure) were both ranked higher. I think Mallett was #4 overall, and the #2 QB only behind Jimmy Clausen.
When he committed, McCaffrey was #45 in the composite and #2 pro style QB. So he well have been #1 to one of the services. It's a little strange though when they split up the QB rankings, just like with RB and APB.
Wow. The dude has IT factor.
So many "That's not fair" plays.
Found myself feeling sorry for all those DBs that kept missing by this much.
Very good pickup, assuming he signs. But it’s hard to get too excited yet about a guy who isn’t going to see meaningful playing time for at least 5 years.
5 years? He'll be on campus in 2. I wouldn't set the expectation that this 5 star QB will see meaningful playing time for the first time as a senior.
He won't have a chance to start until at least his third year, if not his fourth. Harbaugh just doesn't move QBs along that fast, and he doesn't start 1st or second year guys there. He will always go with the guy with the most experience.
You never stop painting with a negative brush, do you DBC? The tragic irony of your comments (you've brought this up before) is that what you're pointing out is actually a HUGE benefit to the program and it should be praised, not viewed as a liability. When QB's develop for three seasons and start for two they've got the best chance to perform at a high level in college, get drafted, and be a very important part of bringing along the younger QB/setting the leadership culture, etc. Occasionally there are "generational talents" who come along and are able to out perform older QB's, but they're rare and cannot be relied upon.
So you're saying we got a commitment whose first name starts with a J, has long hair, and comes from Nazareth? Seems a little too on the nose, doesn't it?
Geez. His film is amazing. How good are the guys ND and OSU apparently preferred to him?
Can't speak for ND, but the prevailing thought among OSU insiders is that OSU coaches liked McCord's size and arm strength advantage. He also impressed them with his football knowledge when he visited campus. He's the son of a coach and is also coming off a state championship as a sophomore and, if I remember correctly, plays tougher competition. He also has the benefit of being friends and teammates with Marvin Harrison Jr., who OSU is also after.
This is a good read on why OSU preferred McCord:
Thank you for the informative post. McCord looks really good as well, but I can't help but be impressed by McCarthy's superior accuracy and athleticism. I'm surprised, based on Day's offense, that wasn't more important.
Many Buckeye fans were surprised as well. Many have asked why McCord was the pick instead of pushing harder for McCarthy or Maye. I honestly haven't seen either's film enough to say one way or the other. Birm also posted yesterday that the McCord over McCarthy decision may end up defining Ryan Day and I think he's likely right. If McCarthy ends up being as good as the early rankings, OSU fans will not let Day forget it. Their development over the next two years will be interesting to watch, which is kind of crazy to think that two 16 year old kids are being dissected like this when both have a lot of growing and physical-maturing still to do.
Does anyone else see John Elway, but shorter?
Watch the very first play on his highlight video. Deep, deep bomb caught in stride by a sprinting WR and taken to the house. I mean, it could not have been a better throw - the WR didn’t need to adjust a darn thing. And he’s only a freaking sophomore! Can’t wait to see him in the maize and blue.
And he threw into pressure, got hit, and the ball went almost 50 yards in the air despite him not being able to follow-through.
Not many people on the planet can do that.
McCarthy will immediately be the most gifted QB in a room full of top-drawer talent. With Gattis' offense this amazing group of QBs, Michigan will enter the Heisman conversation for the first time in years.
Its reassuring that maybe Harbaugh is finally catching the next gear ... now that the NFL/OSU misinformation is finally fading and the Shea corralling. He didn’t help himself screaming wolf in the headlines year 1 and 2..I get it - I understood the media hype, the buzz, the clamor, the need for a savior but the call for submarining lock down in year three led to focus and determination - though still didn’t translate to B1G championship.
Yes we have had our lumps over the last decade and yes Harbaugh has too in his run. Especially axing his long time cohorts and losing he who shall not be named to that team down....but hey - keep the arrow pointed North and Maize and Blue will prevail...right? Eventually????
Can we also please negotiate home and away with MSU/OSU alternating with the new B1G commish - like back in the day - WTLF!
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