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|6 hours 15 min ago||Where did I call people who||
Where did I call people who disagree with me names?
To me, my opinions are indisputable truths. Should I state them with less conviction simply to keep you from feeling inadequate? If you take issue with a point or stance I take, by all means state your case. But, don't expect me to capitulate, debating is too much fun.
It's the assumption with which I take exception DB. I feel that many fans, as you aptly point out, feel that Hoke isn't up to the task. To me, however, I think the assumption is premature, based upon emotion and unreasonable expectations given the recent past. You point to all the things he's not done, while I point to the limitations on his ability to perform. I think, as I've said, that those limiting factors are enough to make even a great coach look less than stellar. So if we just assume he's the wrong guy, and cut ties, and we're wrong, what then? What if Michigan starts to chase the dragon and can never be caught.
I know we all love Michigan. That's why I love coming in here to talk about it so much. I just think that impatience and a "throw away" mentality has infected our society and I don't want it to consume Michigan. We'll know a lot after this season. Personally I think Hoke's going to look really really good, as will silence a lot of the detractors.
|14 hours 10 min ago||"the failure to prepare those||
"the failure to prepare those freshmen/walkons adequately and the failure to attract qualified transfer (either Juco or Grad transfer) offensive lineman were not beyond the control of the coahing staff."
This wins the "Asinine Statement of the Day Award."
So what I hear you saying (please correct me if I am wrong) is that coaches are failures if they're unable to get true freshmen OLinemen, whose well known developmental cycle is usually a minimum of three years, prepared. Further, that their inability to coerce an OLine transfer or JuCo guy to come in and save the day is another strike against them?
Ok dude, if you say so.
|14 hours 17 min ago||I was wrong about Borges, and||
I was wrong about Borges, and admitted such. Further, after I read the post-mortem after his departure, it was clear that he had a lot of trouble dealing with the challenges of the roster.
I said this to you before DB (and I think you threatened me), I do not have an unquestioning support for Hoke. I have an unquestioning support for Michigan. I too am "fed up" with the lack of progress that Michigan has shown. However, I've been fed up since 2005, and thus have a different perspective on why things aren't progressing as quickly as we all would like. To me, the struggles are indicative of from whence the program is coming. To you (seemingly) and others, it's indicative of inability on the part of the coaching staff. Personally, I feel that I am taking a holistic view of the issues -- I am trying to view everything together -- while you're looking at them like you can simply drug and cut them out and everything will be better. While not wanting to start a holistic vs. western medicine debate, I am reluctant let to people whom I feel are shortsighted and impatient, and thus have irrational opinions, poison and mutilate the program I love because they think it will work.
|15 hours 11 min ago||"The thing about using the||
"The thing about using the youth & recruiting excuses is that the coach has to show progress towards fixing those probelms."
I agree 100% Hannibal. However, I would phase your point a bit differently. I would say that in an ideal world, the coach would show progress towards fixing those problems. Unfortunately, sometimes that is not possible as the causes of those problems are just too much to overcome. To me, it seemed that the main guy who should (I hate using tha word) have effectuated progress might very well have been making matters worse, and he's no longer with the program. I posted about Borges, Funk, and the OL specifically above.
"On the recruiting front, Hoke has restored the program to where it needs to be, but the development side has been very poor so far. That includes not just last year's young guy, but the disappointing crop of seniors that graduated after 2012."
I don't know if one can genuinely make that assessment of the young players just yet -- I think we'll know a lot more after this season. But, in regards to the 2012 senior class, they were few in number and, IMO, relatively low in talent -- remember who recruited them. I respect them for what they gave to the university and the program, but they personify what I've been saying for a while now, the program was in a very low state in terms of both quantity and quality.
"has Darrell Funk shown any evidence that he could develop those guys the way that we need them?"
Again, I think we'll see more during this season. But to answer specifically, yes, I think Funk has shown he can develop OLinemen. Watch the results of players pressed into service too soon and making that the benchmark of a coach's ability a bit unfair. I thought he did a very nice job with Molk, Schofield, Huyge, and perhaps a few others.
|15 hours 31 min ago||Colonel Angus, Borges got||
Borges got fired because the running game wasn't up to the standards of the Michigan program. Now, within that failure (by all accounts of the post mortem) his was a scheme that was constantly changing, was overly complex, at a time when the OL in particular had very little chance of assimilating such complexity.
To me, its quite obvious that Funk kept his job because when Hoke assessed his performance in 2013 he felt that it was Borges' schemes, and not Funk's lack of technique coaching. Was he right? I don't know, and we'll know a lot more during this season. But, remember that Funk was Borges' subordinate, and although I'd imagine that the two (Borges' and Funk) worked together with the other coaches in schemeing, at the end of the day Borges was telling Funk what he wanted his OLinemen to do. For all we know, Funk was ready to kick the shit of Borges every week because Borges was (to use a WWI analogy) calling for his guys to go "over the top" and Funk was saying it was suicide.
|16 hours 39 min ago||All this talk about the "hot||
All this talk about the "hot seat" -- whether from the media or the fan base -- is illustrative of a complete lack of perspective and totally unrealistic expectations based upon the reality of Michigan's roster.
Pundits who purport to know CFB should know how the cycles play out, and how many times when a program has a hicup the results of that spasm aren't felt until several years down the road.
I've said this many times and my resolve in my position has only strengthened over time. Michigan's pipeline was broken, or at least reduced to a trickle, and its facilities were substantially subpar relative to those of its biggest rivals. The recruiting cycle that is the lifes blood of a program BROKE DOWN -- most noteably in the OL -- and low and behold Michigan saw its worst OL play ever 4 years after the 2010 recruiting class debacle. While programs like Wisconsin and Alabama are flipping over OLinemen like shark teeth, Michigan was forced to start true freshmen, walk-ons, and guys who had not come up within a culture of a "wait your turn" development cycle -- and it showed.
If your espousing that Hoke's job is in jeopardy and you DO NOT mention this, IMO, you're not giving the discussion it's full due.
These are factors that are BEYOND the control of the current coaching staff. They've been tasked with doing what they can while reestablishing the pipeline -- which they have. I think last season started with these issues firmly within the mind of the coaching staff, but as soon as the OL was exposed, Borges basically flailed about trying to find something, anything, that would work, and it actually made things WORSE -- which is why he was let go. Of course, all this falls on the desk of the head coach. But, again, if you're constantly dismissing the reasons why things are happening as "excuses" and continually looking for someone else to come in and save the day, you run the risk of finding out the hard way that it wasn't, in fact, the former coach's shortcomings, but the short comings of the roster that was the major factor. Unfortunately, by that time, it's too late and your roster could potentially go to shit again and the whole shit storm starts all over.
|19 hours 12 min ago||Please tell your "sources"||
Please tell your "sources" not to do anything stupid and hastey. Michigan, IMO, can not afford another coaching regime change. We're just know getting back our elite recruiting, and to upset that pipeline again so soon could be the death blow of the program.
|19 hours 46 min ago||I am assuming that you meant to write||
I am assuming that you meant to write, "recount," not "recant" -- although it is an interesting Freudian Slip on your part (perhaps).
Every CFB coach's seat is "warm" in the sense that they're only a few years from it being hot, and then being fired should they fail to perform. In 2011 Hoke took a team whose players were destined to be listed as members of the worst stretch in Michigan history and helped make them into Sugar Bowl Champions. That, IMO, is performing phenomenally well considering how little most everyone was expecting from that team. He was the B10 Coach of the Year, and IIRC was also in the running for the National Coach of the Year.
The reason that I don't believe you is because what you're expressing (besides being totally unsubstantiated) defies the roster reality that anyone who is so "plugged in" to the program would be intimately aware. 2013 was ALWAYS going to happen due to the recruiting issues that were 4-5 years in the making. People who know football, people who know the Michigan program as intimately as you purport your connections do, would know that 2013 was a comeupance that was going to be hard to avoid. If you, and your guys, think that this makes him on the "hot seat," then I think you're irrational -- and I don't think anyone listens to irrationality, no matter how much money they throw around.
All this bickering aside, I don't think it's going to matter in the least as I think Team 135 is going to show everyone what kind of coach Hoke is, and just how lucky Michigan is to have him leading their program.
|21 hours 18 min ago||"They expect more" ...||
"THEY expect more" ... "Little (if any) substance" ... "Coin flip".
This is the realty and I have to accept it? C'mon dude. I know you like to play the role of knowledgeable insider, but your own script isn't painting a compelling picture. I don't believe that these influential donors are voicing such concerns, and most importantly, voicing such things to YOU! Sorry bro, I just don't buy it. Even if I grant you that there might be some of these mythical creatures who were left dissatisfied with last years performance, this notion that there is a "general consensus" amoung them (whomever they are) and that YOU are privy to this alleged consensus is farfetched.
Besides, if this consensus exists what do they think of you, an alleged insider, who runs to MGoBlog to tell everyone who can read the state and disposition of these uber powerful men? Smart and poweful people don't want somebody airing their intimate thoughts. If you're so plugged in, and what you alledging has even a scrap of veracity (which I doubt), I hope your connection tells you to STFU, and cuts you out of further disclosures.
I don't feel this way because of some irrational love of Coach Hoke. I feel this way because of your pathetic need to appear as the big important guy with big important connections telling you the inside scope on what's up within the cadre of power brokers.
It's not a right or wrong issue. It's an issue of you trying to tell everyone that you know reality and any disagreement is due to irrational blindness. Well again, despite my affinity for you a Michigan Man, I ain't buying a word of your fairy tale.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Where's this "guarantee" so||
Where's this "guarantee" so many are talking about? You guys will bitch about anything, fer fok sake!
|1 day 8 hours ago||Your best friend's sister's||
Your best friend's sister's boyfriend's cousin over heard DB berating Hoke and saying, "you'd better win or else" at 31 Flavors?
You c'mon. Maybe I missed your deep inside corroborated facts or something but you, "c'mon." My feelings for Hoke are irrelevant, what is relevant is how idiotic another coaching change would be, and I don't believe DB is an idiot. I believe there are a lot of people around (maybe you among them) that don't want to look into the reality of where Michigan was just a few short years ago, and will always be pining for a messianic figure to come save the day. I don't believe in sermons, fairy tales, or stories about money baby girl -- I ain't buying a word of this "hot seat" "warm seat" malarkey, sorry.
|1 day 9 hours ago||Your statements weren't||
Your statements weren't mathematical impossibilities -- like batting 1.00 -- yet you stated them like they were. Me questioning your call isn't anything like calling bluff on such a ludicrous statement -- simply me wondering why you're so certain the that OL isn't going to be even average, nor that DG will play all season. You've presented a nice strawman in an attempt to throw off my question.
Experience you say? Have you never seen a team, or a unit within a team, improve from bad to average? I think you're being disingenuous and I find it a pathetic. You know, sure. You don't know, you're just lowering your expectations so that you won't be hurt when they're not met. Although I cannot blame you for trying to protect yourself from disappointment, stating what you deem to be facts, as such, when they're nothing more than your own negative musing is kinda lame, IMO.
|1 day 17 hours ago||How do you know? Did you||
How do you know? Did you steal some gypsy fortune teller's crystal ball? Or, did you forget the, "if," in your last sentence?
If not, and you are, in fact, gazing into the future, can you tell me when the ES is going to hit its 200 DMA? -- we're only 430 days above it now (assuming it doesn't come down to it today).
|1 day 17 hours ago||I think it's going to be||
I think it's going to be sickeningly obvious just how disjointed and confusing Borges' offenses were when we see a Nuss offense take the field. It's never good when the post mortem from an OC being let go has words like, "overwhelming," "confusing," and "disjointed."
|1 day 17 hours ago||^^ x 1000! I agree with you||
^^ x 1000!
I agree with you 100% on this one. People who want to see doom and gloom for the Michigan program, and for the OL in particular, may be discounting the role of chemistry. I think, as you aptly pointed out, that Lewan (although gifted physcially) might have been a detrimental factor in the development of the younger less experienced OLinemen, and his absense will actually HELP them.
|1 day 18 hours ago||I too am very excited about||
I too am very excited about the 2014 season. Personally, I think that the team feels the pessimism and negativity from the fanbase and the media and is going to have a chip on its shoulder.
Recently I watched the BTN episode about the 1997 season and the issue of "leadership" really struck. Championship teams have great leaders. As has been discussed in here a great deal, the 2011 team had those leaders in guys like MM, RVB, KK, etc. Conversely, from the post-season reporting, it sounds like even though a guy like Lewan was an upperclassmen and supposed to be a "leader" he might not have been the most effective in inspiring the younger players. I think a great deal of Team 135's success will depend upon whether or not effective leaders emerge.
I think Hoke has made a concerted effort to recruit "leaders" it's just that up until now they were still underclassmen. This year, IMO, is the first year we're going to see those Hoke recurits being in a natural position to be the leaders that Michigan needs.
I think the OL is going to surprise everyone with their development, and we're going to see a defense that is very very good and will carry the team while the offense gets into a rhythm.
Oh, and by the way guys, this is not a "make or break year" for Hoke. His seat is not even remotely warm, so just stop with all that idiocy please.
|3 days 17 hours ago||^^ x 1000! Well said||
^^ x 1000!
Well said Blue_by_U!
All the "this year or else!" blabbing in here TOTALLY discounts the reality of where Carr and his cronies drove the ship and the state in which they handed over the helm. A hulk that has been run aground cannot be made seaworthy immediately -- especially after the first 3 year attempted salvage failed miserably. To understand where you're trying to go you have to know (honestly) where you've been.
|3 days 18 hours ago||After Hoke showed a||
After Hoke showed a willingness to fire the OC -- who was ultimately responsible for the lack of offensive cohesion and production -- if he thought Funk's lack a ability was also contributing to the problem, why would he keep him?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||"...you ranted ad||
"...you ranted ad nauseam..."
Hopefully you puked your brains out! I disagree with your assessment of my posts as ranting, and that the frequency ascended to the level of ad nauseam. But, you're welcome to my opinion.
"Sorry, when I hear the word conspiracy, I start thinking Area 51 and....tinfoil."
And why should I care what weird associations you have? It's funny how people dismiss things out of hand when there might be more than one perp involved -- as if the "lone gunman" is the ONLY scenario possible. I call people who express the sentiment that you're expressing "Coincidence Therorists." It's odd to me because so many things in history have born out to be actual "conspiracies" in which a group of people united to achieve a common goal. Whether this one was or not, who knows. But I find it funny that you think that by throwing out the "tinfoil hat" meme you elevate your position.
"Also, notice how absolutely no one here agrees with you."
Again, I am supposed to care why? Unlike you, apparently, I form my own opinions whether they run with the crowds sentiment or not. Run with the herd all you want, enjoy yourself. But don't expect me to alter my beliefs simply because others don't agree. You all could be dumbledicks who know nothing. But then again, I could be too. Not sure why you have to get so upset about my thoughts. But, I am flattered that you care so much.
My fan club is accepting donations.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||"You may need to adjust the||
"You may need to adjust the tinfoil."
What does that mean? Oh wait, I get it ... because I think that the ref, about whom Klinsman expressed concern prior to the game, gave too little stoppage time (about which Klinsman complained vehmently during the game), I must be a *gasp* "conspiracy therorist" who -- to block "them" from reading his mind -- wears a hat of foil. Now THAT is a good one. Did you come up with that all on your own cuz that is pure comedic GENIUS!
I don't own any tinfoil, it freaks me out, and I certainly don't have a hat of one -- I do, however, own a nice chunck of RAI that has done very well. I'll sell you some if you like. It just made a 52 week high, but it is only going up from here, trust me muppet, trust me.
Belgium's dominance is meaningless.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||I agree Drunk Unc!Despite||
I agree Drunk Unc, young players looking good!
Howeve , despite all the seeming advancement of the USMNT, it is still amazing to see the near complete lack of that first touch that our guys show as compared to the rest of the world. Dempsey has it, at times, but its just not there yet. Hopefully Klinsman's influence on the development of the youth players will start to elevate the collective skills of our nations soccer programs.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||I agree the US got out||
I agree the US got out played, and that they had opportunities to score. But 1 minute is asinine. If you don't agree, fine. But I am not throwing a tantrum, I am expressing my discontent with the way the refs handled the end of the game -- because we ALL know that that FIFA is above reproach!
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||Fine! But that doesn't mean||
Fine! But that doesn't mean that FIFA isn't going to give the US a chance to tie the game against Belgium. It was obivious. Did you see Coach K's reaction?!?
It's a fucking farce, as was the lack of calls when Jones is getting hit studs up over and over. I love soccer, and I love the World Cup, but it was OBVIOUS at the end that FIFA wasn't going to give the US anything.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||The head ref was a Swede, if||
The head ref was a Swede, if I am not mistaken. Either way, it's fucking bullshit. There was a lot more than 1 minute of stops.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||I am aware of that ... but||
I am aware of that ... but Jones was down twice for AT LEAST a minute each time. Bottom line, no Euro ref was going to give the US another chance to win -- bullshit!
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||1 minute of stoppage time?!?||
1 minute of stoppage time?!? Really?!? 1?!? I've watched almost all of every game this WC and I cannot think of one game that had 1 minute of stoppage time. Fucking pathetic. Portugal got 5, IIRC, and it seemed there wasn't but a few stops!
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Ok, 8:00 am tee time...lemme||
Ok, 8:00 am tee time...lemme know!
The guys have said the course is in great shape, can't wait.
Edit: just got an email, looks like we'll be a twosome ... Anyone wanna make it a threesome ... Ms. Upton, you out there?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not worried about skills||
I'm not worried about skills -- just looking for some Michigan Men (and/or women) who'd like to play and maybe make some new friends.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I're heard that they've||
I've heard that they've redone Leslie Park GC since I left in 1997 -- always liked that course too -- did they redo Huron Hills too?
UMGC is amazingly difficult, especially if the rough is up and the greens are fast -- which they almost always are. MacKenzie's design demands pin-point accuracy on the approach shots, a great short-game, and ridiculously good lag putt as you WILL have a few crazy putts.
Personally, I think the most striking feature of the course is the collection of tees and greens in the center of the property -- I've never seen anything like it anywhere else in the world.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||It's pertty simple||
It's pertty simple really.
Foreskyn is a snarky jackass, a member of the spelling police, apparently discriminates against people named Sten -- whether his bigotry extends to all people with nordic names is, at this point, unknown -- and I am wondering if anyone from MGoBlog would like to play golf at the UMGC next week.