Will Beilein End Up Winning Here?
The team is young, and will most likely struggle this year. When they do grow up, will Beilein have sucess? I have a teacher who played women's basketball at Le Moyne, I think. But wherever it was, she was there at the same time Beilein was. She has seen Beilein run a practice, and according to her, he knows what he's doing as a coach. Will he succeed at Michigan?
December 1st, 2010 at 11:40 PM ^
1. Yes, I think you can tell Beilein does finally have his type of players. Manny and Deshawn were not. Smotrycz I feel exemplifies this - big man with skills who can shoot and looks like a basketball player. Once we add some additional guards who can drive/put pressure on the defense, which it appears our incoming recruits do, the system will start to click.
2. Size - nice to have to have two bigs starting with Smotrycz and Morgan. Must have in the Big Ten.
3. Facilities - definitely will help.
4. Track record - he has done it everywhere he has been.
My concern has been recruiting - I think he is turning the corner here and I am sure facilities must help. But the Big Ten is talented and we have to have talent to compete. He can be a great coach but basketball is a talent game and you have to have players to compete. But I can see the core taking shape with Morgan, Smotrycz, Hardaway and Morris.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 AM ^
But the Big Ten is talented and we have to have talent to compete. He can be a great coach but basketball is a talent game and you have to have players to compete.
So talent doesn't matter you say... interesting.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:52 PM ^
I doubt it. The board here has determined recently that ex-WVU coaches forget how to win once they arrive and that condition can't be changed unfortunately.
Circumstances be damned...this is MICHIGAN for God's sake.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^
I think so. Give him another year with this current roster and they could be scary. I have heard it said this is the first team he hass had at Michigan that is made to realy run his system. He has a true point gaurd in Morrice and Novack isn't playing out of position anymore. Not this year probably but next we should probably see the tournament.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:08 PM ^
Morrice? Novack?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:20 PM ^
Spelling prick?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^
Are you calling him a prick that criticizes grammatical errors?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:29 PM ^
I am calling him a prick because he can find nothing meaningfull to add to the discusion other than the fact that I miss spelled two names.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:50 PM ^
(sneaking up slowly) misspelled* (tip toes away)
December 1st, 2010 at 8:59 PM ^
... meaningful*
sprints the fuck away.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:42 PM ^
. . . discussion*
disappears into the shadows.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:57 PM ^
Spelling is important. So is grammar.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:08 PM ^
See, I think his misspellings are deliberate.
I think he's being ironic in the Socratic sense.
If so, cheers mate! If not, hopefully you're an engineer.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:05 PM ^
That's not what they're for...
Oh wait.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:28 PM ^
With 189 points (at the time of this thread) a bit of orientation might be in order.
1. All opinions are welcome as long as they are well articulated.
2. Yes, most of us are grammar nazis.
3. Unlike most blog sites, we actually try to understand each others points - even if we disagree with them.
4. We do disagree with some.
5. Name calling accomplishes nothing here - with the possible exception of not allowing us to take you seriously. We are kind of a family. You wouldn't do that to family (I hope). Avoid it here.
Again, welcome.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 AM ^
You mean the grammar "NAZIS" (that's capitalized, it's a noun) "try to understand each OTHER'S points" (it's possessive singular), right?
December 1st, 2010 at 7:53 PM ^
I certainly think he has a lot of time to prove himself because everyone (DB included probably) is more focused on getting football back on track than basketball
December 1st, 2010 at 7:54 PM ^
I certainly think he has a lot of time to prove himself because everyone (DB included probably) is more focused on getting football back on track than basketball
December 1st, 2010 at 7:54 PM ^
Since Novak no longer has to play PF, its a definite maybe.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:01 PM ^
... because Novak was developing into a hell of a 5.
"... NOT." - Borat
December 1st, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^
Besides, it's always a good idea to fire coaches before they have the time to fully implement their system.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:18 PM ^
In fact, I would like to see both RR and Beilein fired immediately and then I would like to see their successors fired within three months.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:35 PM ^
I'm starting to look forward to your sarcastic remarks more than the actual topic.
Go Blue!
December 1st, 2010 at 11:47 PM ^
I laughed so loud I aspirated a mucous plug and had to be intubated !
December 1st, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^
coming in was whether he'd be able to recruit well enough to build a consistent winner. It sucked finishing 2nd for Prather, Zeigler, and Pointer, but I think he's largely answered that question in the affirmative. Smotrycz and Hardaway look like the real deal, and Burke and Brundidge are both excellent recruits. As long as he can continue to recruit 2-3 top 100 guys a year, I absolutely think he will win here.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:19 PM ^
The new practice facilities should help with recruiting.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^
he will struggle this season, but i believe we will be going dancing next year!
December 1st, 2010 at 10:27 PM ^
We play like we did yesterday consistently we have a shot at an NCAA bid. Clemson at Clemson is a tough win. Being stranded out here in NC I get to see the ACC teams all the time. Don't underestimate what they did last night. Even the ACC folks out here were impressed. And they're as arrogant as Buckeye fans...
December 1st, 2010 at 8:01 PM ^
I think he needs some time to get his people in place. Within four years, he should be competing for the MNC on an annual basis. Oh wait, we're talking basketball. Sorry.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:03 PM ^
I'm saying there's a chance.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:02 PM ^
I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy. Oh wait...
December 2nd, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
Do try and keep your personalities limited to one per post.....
December 1st, 2010 at 8:06 PM ^
If he could in 2009, he can again, especially when his program will finally catch up in the facilities race.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:06 PM ^
After seeing Ellerbe get 4 years and Amaker 6 years, I'm sure Beilein will get at least a decade......
December 1st, 2010 at 8:11 PM ^
Well he's finally starting to get some good recruiting classes. His first few years recruiting classes, well lets just say they could have been better. I love stu douglass and zach novak, however, you won't be winning a lot of games with a team full of players like them. I like to consider them "position" or "situational" players. They help the team, but will never be stars. This years class (that just came in) and the next two classes look to be full of potential and I'm finally starting to see his vision for our team, which is definitely a good thing.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:35 PM ^
I think he will win at Michigan for sure. He has a young team that looks very promising. He obviously has the respect of former NBA players. I think we have an outside chance at the tourney this year.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:50 PM ^
I really think he will begin to catch up as DB begins to turn his attention back to basketball. And he's mentioned already that Michigan needs to upgrade the basketball facilities. I think this would be a big help in terms of recruiting.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:01 PM ^
As others mentioned, the improved facilities will help quite a bit, as will wins in high-profile early-season tournaments. Making a run in the NIT/NCAA tournament also wouldn't hurt, but he is having an incredibly young team play pretty well so far. I do think one underrated element is the fact that a couple of big-time NBA players are sending their kids to UM - that not only puts the team a bit higher on the radar of some kids, but is a great ice-breaker for the parents and coaches of these recruits. If Tim Hardaway trusts Coach B, the logic goes, then so should you.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:11 PM ^
Yes he allready has. Have we allready forgoten the 2008 basketball season?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:13 PM ^
John Beilein knows his X's and O's when it comes to hoops. Yes, he will most certainly be a winning coach at Michigan...in my opinion, he already has and will only continue to improve with recruits like Brundidge and Burke.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:38 PM ^
He does not need to win. That is not his job. Just don't cheat. That is what he is getting paid to do. And if you think differently, you are under the age of 25. ?Sorry. Questions? Fab 5 didn't go over so well. Michigan is a football school.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:44 PM ^
I appreciate the compliment, but I'm actually older than that.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:12 PM ^
I've been waiting since August 19, 2008 for THAT comment? Ah, I've wasted my life.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 AM ^
What? What? What?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:35 PM ^
"Signs point to yes"
December 1st, 2010 at 9:47 PM ^
Time to can Beilein and bring in Harbaugh.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:48 PM ^
yes...
in long,
yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss
December 1st, 2010 at 10:03 PM ^
Oh yeah. Dude's been a proven winner wherever he's gone. I posted in the Clemson open thread, the fact that in 2 years, this team is going to be scary good. Their starting lineup is 1 Junior, 1 Sophomore, and 3 Freshmen. And none of those guys (save maybe Hardaway Jr.) is an EE-threat.