Whistles From the Crowd
I was curious if anyone else, especially those that went to the game, noticed the numerous plays where there were whistles being blown from the crowd? I noticed it first on a the kickoff return following ND's FG, and there was the play where the penalty was waived. WTF?!?
I am not making excuses for the loss, but it infuriated me to no end, and I felt like the refs had to have heard it, and should have started giving 15 yard penalties.
Could there be any greater douche baggery than pulling that crap?Thoughts?
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:59 AM ^
But I'm more surprised it wasn't Bama fans a couple weeks ago
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:28 PM ^
ND fans are a lot worse than 'Bama fans. I've actually found the latter to be much more classy and down-to-earth than the former, despite the wide gap in achievement between 'Bama and ND.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:00 AM ^
The refs the even announced that there was a whistle from the crowd. Maybe it was because I was trashed, but I thought I heard a loud and clear whistle that the players kept playing through even after the refs acknowleded that there was a whistle in the stands. Am I right?
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:04 AM ^
As I was drinking myself I believe the sequence was: Whistle from the crowd, Michigan player subsequently "false started" due to said whistle. Other players continued the play as actual officials blew the play dead. They then ruled the false-start was due to the whistle in the stands.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:06 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^
to me from an objective stand point it looked like a good call or at least a call that would be consistently flagged. wilson (freshman safety(why he was in is anybodies guess)) had his arms wrapped around the ND receiver (might have been a TE dont remember who it was). Honestly I think this was one of the better officiated games I have seen in a while, nothing seemed missed or got messed up at least from watching it on TV
September 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 PM ^
Correct, I heard at least one other whistle on a subsequent play. Was surprised more of an issue wasn't made of it.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 AM ^
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September 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 AM ^
Note to away fans: Bring whistles.
September 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 AM ^
I logged in to reply to this, yes, you can in fact call a penalty on the home team for it. I remember watching a late late late game between Boise State and Idaho and there was some Idaho frat boy in the stands blowing the whistle.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:12 AM ^
I know for a fact they can call a penalty on the home team if they keep doing it. I don't remember the game, but I remember it happening once. The refs give a warning, and the PA Announcer asks people to stop, and warns the crowd that the team will be penalized if they don't stop.
Fitz was off to the races on that play. Again, no excuses, but I think the ND should really be ashamed of themselves. They knew what they were doing, or trying to do, and it worked at least that once.
Another point in the long list of reasons why I hate ND. So sad.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:16 AM ^
was very upset about it, that's all I know about it
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:30 AM ^
As he should be. What's next, a laser pointer in the QB or WR's eyes as they're tyring to make a play?
It only takes one player to hear the whistle and think the play is over to have a significant effect. They weren't just blowing whistles, they were blowing them in quick bursts like the refs do when they're trying to stop a play, and they were timing just right to try to make the Michigan players think the play was stopped.
They're cheating, malicious douche bags. It's one thing to be an abnoxious fan, to scream and be a nusiance, but this takes it to another level.
September 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:20 AM ^
I'd agree with the douche parts, but I doubt anyone associated with ND football is trying to cheat. And to be fair, considering the number of turnovers Denard had yesterday, he'd be suspect #1 if we were looking for people trying to help ND break the streak.
/ Too soon?
// It's a football game, and stuff happens
/// But my gawd, 5 TOs were painful.
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^
Please just go away.
September 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:18 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 AM ^
Still trying to understand how that makes any sense or how it's funny.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:26 AM ^
When you put 80,000 fans from any team in one place you're bound to have idiots. The whistles were annoying but we gave it away multiple times and still ND didn't take advantage and we still lost.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 AM ^
No doubt we gave it away. I am not making excuses. Just pisses me off.
September 23rd, 2012 at 1:32 AM ^
because of a whistle in the stands, a lot of people in the crowd started whistling, which I found oddly humorous.
September 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 4:39 AM ^
was wondering if anyone else was hacked off about that.
I thought it was outrageous.
I've never heard piped in music played that close to the snap.
I think it's completely bogus, and I'd love to know what Brandon thought about it.
Totally bush league.
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:02 AM ^
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September 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^
What was driving us nuts is the ND band knew they had the speakers and waited for the Michigan band to start playing something before drowning them completely out. I mean every friggin' time. We were in the Michigan fan section and couldn't ever hear our own band. I don't know band protocols about playing over each other, but if the home team is miked and the away team's isn't, and the home team is going to play atop them every time, then what's the point of even inviting the away band?
And yeah, ND pushed the limits of how loud and how long you can play piped in music before a snap on every 3rd down. Fans are welcome to do this but again, the athletic department doing that themselves is over the line. I'd like the NCAA to quietly make this not happen again.
September 23rd, 2012 at 7:33 PM ^
It's one thing to play it constantly in between plays - that is what it is - but this seemed like an intentional effort to interfere with a Quarterback's attempt to call out signals.
That's a violation of fair competition.
I've never heard us do that, and I sure hope that we haven't.
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:35 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 2:31 PM ^
If you feel that it might be thought of as "whiney" for Brandon to say anything, then okay; let Brandon say nothing.
But God bless Frank Beckmann, one of my favorite media heroes, if he reports what he witnessed (he is part reporter, part commentator, to be sure) and does so forcefully. I don't care if Dave Brandon says anything. I don't suspect anybody is looking for any official conseqence. The score is posted, the game is over. But reporting doesn't stop. If there is a story to be told, I'd like to hear about it.
September 23rd, 2012 at 7:57 AM ^
Yea those whistles from the crowd totally explain "DEnard throwing the ball anyone but Michigan players.
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 AM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 AM ^
You guys whould make any excuse to try and save Denard. Loud music... longer grass on the field. Whistles from the field... Fuck Denard Robinson
September 23rd, 2012 at 8:05 AM ^
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September 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 AM ^
Not worth a new post and let me also preface this by saying that it did not make a difference in the game. We beat ourselves, yada yada yada.
Was there a play in the fourth quarter when the game clock should've stopped because our receiver went out of bounds? I think it was Gallon on a bubble screen, but he ran out of bounds without being forced out by an ND player and the clock didn't stop.
Was I seeing things or was it BS?
September 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 AM ^
But the clock didn't just start on the referee's signal; it never actually stopped. There is some provision about the clock not stopping if a player is forced out, IIRC, but I don't think he was on that play.
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 AM ^
What was up with the music on the PA when our O was lining up? I can't remember hearing it played for so long and wondered if there are any rules on this.
September 23rd, 2012 at 9:46 AM ^
I am going to a service at Our Redeemer of Main Street and taking a whistle that I will start using right before the homily...
September 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^
Keeping Denard in the pocket is in keeping with the definition of insane. Keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Statistics show his accuracy goes up DRAMATICALLY when he rolls out and has play action options. What we are going to learn is whether Brady Hoke is loyal to a fault ala RichRod and continues to let Borges implode.
September 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 AM ^
Statistics show his accuracy goes up DRAMATICALLY when he rolls outThey do? News to me. My recollection is that he generally struggles when rolling out.
September 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM ^
September 23rd, 2012 at 5:20 PM ^
It's not true. This has actually been discussed many times here. He's most effect at passing when he's under center and stays in the pocket. He's least accurate when he rolls out.