Vinopal at FS behind Cam

Submitted by uniqenam on

Book it.  Dude is fast and knowledgable, and although he doesn't have the athletic skill-set of a Vlad, he at least is a scholarship body.  Go Ray, Go Blue!

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Beavis

September 8th, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^

Thanks for sharing this nugget of info with (seemingly) zero source other than that is going on inside of your head (who knows).

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ND Sux

September 8th, 2010 at 1:33 PM ^

Need a tag for Ray Vinopal, pronto.  Can't replace "The Impaler" with just plain old Ray Vinopal. 

How about "Raven" (for "Ray Vin")???  I like it!!!! 

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HHW

September 8th, 2010 at 1:44 PM ^

"The expectation is for the position."  Wouldn't matter to Bo who goes in, so it doesn't matter to me.  I expect the position to perform.

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Magnus

September 8th, 2010 at 7:49 PM ^

If you look back at past threads (not that you should - it would be a horrible waste of anyone's time), I said that I set him as my avatar because of his exciting kick returns in 2008.  There were a couple times where he was one broken tackle from taking it back all the way.

However, I was never a fan of his abilities as a corner.  I mentioned from the beginning that I didn't like his size and playmaking ability.

And like joeyb said, I changed my avatar after the ND game last year when he started acting cocky.  I'm not a fan of that type of behavior.

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Magnus

September 8th, 2010 at 8:07 PM ^

Sheridan 2008: 63/137 (46%), 613 yards, 2 touchdowns, 5 interceptions

Robinson 2009: 14/31 (45%), 188 yards, 2 touchdowns, 4 interceptions

They both had a similar completion percentage.  Sheridan threw interceptions 4% of the time, and Robinson threw interceptions at a 13% rate.  Sheridan played for a worse team.  If not for Baby Seal University, Robinson wouldn't have thrown a single TD.

I never suggested that Sheridan would be a better runner than Robinson, but as an actual quarterback . . . it's somewhat difficult to make an argument for Robinson.  I've said this before, but if Robinson threw the same number of passes as Forcier in 2009, he would have thrown 37 interceptions.  Sheridan would have thrown 11.

But yeah, it's a great thing Rodriguez didn't listen to me.  Denard had such a great season in 2009 that he went 4/11 (36%) for 57 yards, 0 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions in Michigan's four victories against FBS schools.  He also carried the ball 29 times for 179 yards and 3 touchdowns in those games, but all three of those touchdowns and 134 of those rushing yards came against MAC schools in blowouts.

Look, I'm not going to argue that Nick Sheridan was a great quarterback.  But Denard Robinson sucked in 2009.  His turnaround (so far) has been nothing short of miraculous, and that's great for Denard.  I'm excited for his future.  Let's not pretend, though, that he was significantly superior to Sheridan as a quarterback.  He was essentially a tailback taking direct snaps last season.

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Magnus

September 8th, 2010 at 8:08 PM ^

Sheridan 2008: 63/137 (46%), 613 yards, 2 touchdowns, 5 interceptions

Robinson 2009: 14/31 (45%), 188 yards, 2 touchdowns, 4 interceptions

They both had a similar completion percentage.  Sheridan threw interceptions 4% of the time, and Robinson threw interceptions at a 13% rate.  Sheridan played for a worse team.  If not for Baby Seal University, Robinson wouldn't have thrown a single TD.

I never suggested that Sheridan would be a better runner than Robinson, but as an actual quarterback . . . it's somewhat difficult to make an argument for Robinson.  I've said this before, but if Robinson threw the same number of passes as Forcier in 2009, he would have thrown 37 interceptions.  Sheridan would have thrown 11.

But yeah, it's a great thing Rodriguez didn't listen to me.  Denard had such a great season in 2009 that he went 4/11 (36%) for 57 yards, 0 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions in Michigan's four victories against FBS schools.  He also carried the ball 29 times for 179 yards and 3 touchdowns in those games, but all three of those touchdowns and 134 of those rushing yards came against MAC schools in blowouts.

Look, I'm not going to argue that Nick Sheridan was a great quarterback.  But Denard Robinson sucked in 2009.  His turnaround (so far) has been nothing short of miraculous, and that's great for Denard.  I'm excited for his future.  Let's not pretend, though, that he was significantly superior to Sheridan as a quarterback.  He was essentially a tailback taking direct snaps last season.

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Blue boy johnson

September 8th, 2010 at 8:37 PM ^

If RR didn't play Denard last season, Denard would not be the player he is now. Denard got throwin' to the wolves last year but persevered, and learned how hard he needed to work to compete at this level.

Denard learned some tough lessons about the speed of the college game and is reaping the benefits of his experience.

You know football better than I, you don't think last season's lessons are a catalyst for Denard's improvement?

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Magnus

September 8th, 2010 at 8:50 PM ^

Sure, I think his playing time probably helped.  But if Michigan's defense was picking him off in practice, that might have helped, too.  Kids can improve during redshirt years, too (not that he should have redshirted, but that practice time can teach some of the same lessons).  We'll never know for sure, but maybe Denard would have been this awesome even if he didn't play a single down in 2009.

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