FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
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- it's all just execution
- we are done trying to make personnel changes
- we are going to stay the course scheme-wise
- guys, you've got to understand it's all about execution. it's not about play-calling
|3 days 10 hours ago||All weight change is good, but||
lack of weight change is great! Always great to see all these players drop all the bad weight and put on the exact same weight in muscle. More STRONGER but MAINTAIN QUICKNESS moar.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||anyone else's||
Univision feed cut out?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||a thousand times this||
I think it's a city thing. I'd say maybe, MAYBE 1 in 20 cyclists obey traffic signals/stop signs. The rest blow right through stop signs and red lights then scream at cars/ pedestrians for being in the way. HATE
I'm all for sharing the road. However, you then must obey the rules of the road. This means they should be subject to the same tickets/fines that come along with "driving" like a goddamn idiot.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||What does it take||
to earn this guy a ban?
I like when other team's fans come here and play nice. This guy is gloating about stealing a commit and it's definitely not the first time he's trolled the board.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||One weird trick||
Doctors HATE him
|36 weeks 4 days ago||OK, wow||
Ignoring the politics angle here...
I got the joke. It wasn't complicated. He's saying I made excuses for RR, excuses I'm now refusing to make for Hoke. Read my posts below, that's not the case. As a side note, he thinks I'm frustrated at Borges' excuses and that's funny because RR also made excuses for losses in his pressers and I didn't get all frustrated then. The reality is that I'm not frustrated, I'm laughing at Borges. I've never placed much stock in presser responses.
My response to this "joke" was that I see a similar joke - that people like DahBlue clamored for change, got it, and are now pissed that the transition is having some costs and we are now watching more terrible football. You got what you wanted, enjoy it. Meanwhile, my investment in Michigan football is at an all-time low. I don't even care when we lose in pathetic fashion, I just go about my day.
It's sad that I actually have to spell these things out. I think I'm going back into hiding for a while.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||No, I got the joke from post 1||
I never said I envisioned any "results." Read my post again. The results I spoke of were related to Hoke's coaching record, which didn't make me think he was a good hire. Unlike DahBlue, I think past coaching success is pretty much the only consideration you can have when considering a new coach to hire. How else would you evaluate?
My whole point re: "envisioning" was I envisioned all the traditional problems that come with coaching changes after letting a guy go after 3 years. Turmoil such as changing schemes, having a bunch of spread guys to run manball, trying to stitch together a recruiting class in like 2 weeks in 2011, and everything else that comes with it. Like what we are seeing now.
The "excuses I made for the prior guy" are precisely the same excuses I'm now making for Hoke. We are likely to finish close to RR's 2010 record. The trend is downward. We are seeing a terrible product on the field and badly regressing and I still want Hoke to have at least 5 full years. RR's problem was Gerg and I wanted him to take care of it. Hoke's probelm is Borges and I want him to take care of it. In both cases I want the HC to remain in place for 5 years mnimum.
Got it now? I can't make it any clearer for you.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||I joined in the middle of||
the 2008 season when there were already tons of FIRE RR comments rolling into MGoBlog. Like most, I thought this was ridiculous. The screenname is the opposite of FIRE RR and intended to make fun of the nutcases. Today, it looks like my screename means I want to praise RR at the expense of Hoke, or something. Or, at least that's what people commonly write under my posts before they read my join date.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||An excellent attempt||
I complained about the defense in 2010 as much as anyone. Like most people, I wanted Gerg out. I just didn't want to fire RR - I think all HCs should get 5 years. I think HC changes cause problems, see ND. Guys like you called for the HC's head, endlessly, and ultimately got your way.
Fast forward to today. I hated the Hoke hire based on, you know, results. The problems I envisioned re: coaching change, turmoil and what I viewed as a mediocre hire at best are coming to light. I still want to give Hoke 5 years. Today, the offense is horrific. I want Borges gone and I am not calling for Hoke's head. He should get 5 years, period, to show what he can do (and how he manages staff....).
Guys like you are now only calling for the OC's head whereas 3 years ago it was a call for the HC's head.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||Pretty sure that pic||
should apply to you, not me.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||What's wrong?||
Not enjoying our new coaches you requested?
|36 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, he said that||
a couple times, didn't he? It's clear he's trying to plant that seed early to build in another excuse.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||In short||
|36 weeks 4 days ago||"We are two plays away from 8-1"||
Also, two plays away from 4-5 with losses over two of the worst teams in FBS. Can you imagine what this team would look like without Mattison? I shudder at the thought.
|36 weeks 5 days ago||LOL, this guy||
2011: wins a bunch with Denard
2012: "how could we possibly do well on offense with a RB at QB? Just wait till Devin gets moar reps, he's the guy."
2013: "Our interior line is young. Just wait till they get older!! This is a brand new offense, you guys, we need 4 more years starting....now."
2014: "Our tackles are young. Just wait till they get older!"
2015: "We are breaking in a new QB. Junior Shane Morris is basically a freshman, you know."
2016: Blame Canada.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Can you expand on the||
last point? Do you think certain players have quit on the team or am I reading that wrong? If so, what makes you think this? I'm not calling you out, just asking for where the assessment came from since you're a coach (I think?).
|36 weeks 6 days ago||There is a wide, wide gulf||
between throwing Borges under the bus and reiterating, twice, that there is absolutely no question that the play calling/plan was right on.
For those who are quite assured that Hoke is cracking skulls behind the scenes...where's the proof? Have tendencies changed? Have personnel/formations changed? Have adjustments been made at halftime? Has Borges' demeanor changed at all? etc.
If anything, it looks like Hoke has been "cracking skulls" on the defensive side of the ball - which has been above average to good this year. Why did the secondary get overhauled this week and the offense remained the same?
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Did you like the play-calling?||
Yes, not even a question about it.
|37 weeks 1 day ago||This was timely||
and relevant given that PSD notices for 2014 went out last week. Also, the thread was generating some interesting discussion from long-time season ticket holders. Oh well.
|37 weeks 1 day ago||Sorry, no.||
I would never tell people what to do with their money. I'm not urging people to quit on the team. This thread isn't about me - I don't give shit to the university other than some t-shirts and a shitload of tuition money. I'm still wearing my Michigan gear and watching every game. I just find myself not having fun doing so and not giving a shit when we lose. This is a first for me.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||To echo others,||
apathy is the worst part. Watching Michigan for me now is a boring at best and a chore at worst. I fell asleep during the Minnesota game and that's never happened before, even while clubbing Directional Michigan. I of course continue to watch every game and consume all things Michigan, but it's not nearly as fun.
The MSU game shook a lot of us to our core. Michigan wasn't even competitive and I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. The young players aren't showing glimmers of hope and I don't see the signs of a well-coached but inexperienced team. I fear we will suck for the foreseeable future and that just isn't fun to watch happen to my favorite team. I still think Hoke should get 5 years like all coaches should get, but my feeling is that his tenure will end with a firing at some point.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||I admit it's hard to quantify||
but bowl results certainly do not tell the whole story. I won't come at you with stats because I don't have the attention span for that, but here's my general thoughts.
OSU was awesome, went to national title game/Rose Bowls etc., exploded in 2011 and was terrible and didn't have a coach (they since rebounded, obviously, and are back to awesome, probably even better).
MSU has been from above average to good during the RR years. Pretty much the same during Hoke.
Wisconsin was during Bielema's prime, contending for Rose Bowls, etc. for RR. He's now gone and they aren't the same.
PSU was above-average to good for RR. Now they are a gutted program and a tire fire.
Iowa was also solid to good most years and even had one really good year in there for RR. They are now average to pretty terrible.
Illinois and Purdue were below average to average, could surprise teams from time to time for RR. Now they are tire fires.
Minnesota always sucked, but perhaps improving lately.
Northwestern is generally all over the place throughout the RR/Hoke years.
Nebraska wasn't around for RR but they are definitely trending way down since joining the conference.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||I'm mainly talking about the bowl game||
since Brian called it a needle-mover. I think it was more or less 100% clear he was gone after OSU so IMO taking the results of the bowl game into consideration seems pointless.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||A pointless exercise,||
but does the end of the season change if DB comes out early and often in favor of RR getting another year and publicly supporting him? The answer almost has to be yes. Of course there's going to be apathy and rebellion playing for a fired coach. Chicken and egg thing.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||Not going to re-hash||
all this RR stuff because it's rather pointless but one thing I think everyone forgets - the B10 was light years better top to bottom during the RR years as opposed to recent history. I'd say the B10 was competing for being the second-best conference during the RR years whereas now I'd put the B10 well below the SEC, PAC12, ACC and B12 without hesitation.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||That's a defensible opinion||
and makes sense. I suppose I put a lot more value in player development than recruiting rankings but I do agree it makes things a hell of a lot easier when there's more raw talent to mold (or not...).
|37 weeks 5 days ago||Can't help but laugh||
everytime this is brought up. Can anyone else see my join date during the 2008 season?
Also, I didn't give an opinion. If you want it, it's that all coaches should generally be given 5 years. Same as Brian's noted above, so I pointed out that Brian's opinion obviously differed a few years ago so I asked why and got my answer. I was wondering if concerns about becoming ND/a coaching carousel informed his recent opinions re: Hoke's status.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||Noting some inconsistencies||
here, Brian. I won't inject my own opinions - just trying to understand your position.
You argued stridently that RR inherited a mess and the cupboard was bare, etc. Yet, by the end of year 3 you were on board with the RR firing. The reasons were many and no need to re-hash.
Now, you are saying that Hoke inherited a mess with certain positions and even if we went 6-7 this year with massive losses for every game and getting smashed in the bowl you would still want years 4 and probably 5?
Have you simply changed your perspective on these coaching change issues or are there other issues at play? Again, I'm not advocating for one position or the other and I think it's perfectly fine if your perspective has changed, just trying to understand the thought process.
|37 weeks 5 days ago||I want to know why the focus||
is on the top 25? We are nowhere near the top 25 with respect to the thing we are trying to measure - OL performance. There's not a perfect way to measure OL performance, but I guess I'd start by looking at sacks, TFLs, RB YPC and overall rushing performance. If we could somehow come up with an average based on this, I think we'd be lucky to crack the top 80-100. The proper analysis would then be to analyze the experience of the OL for those doing better than us (probably just about everyone) and see how far off the mark we are.
I'm not suggesting anyone should actually do this work because it seems like it would take forever, but it would be interesting to see.
|37 weeks 6 days ago||:(||
Can we be internet friends at all?