Some good news on the war against CO-VID19
Summary: while the vaccine may take time, medical researchers are finding gains in using repurposed drugs and serums, both of which have been showing positive results, and the serum option may be available in just weeks for the most severe of cases.
No, it's not a complete turning of the tide, but these are MAJOR steps in the right direction.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^
I will take any good news at this point. Thanks for sharing!
March 16th, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^
I hadn't seen that elsewhere. Thanks.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
I read late last week about the serum treatment idea being looked into and found it interesting. It's a "tactic" that has worked against other diseases in the past but seems to have been pretty much relegated to the back of the shelf of medical weapons over the years as medical and pharmaceutical advances eclipsed it.
At this point, though, it's obviously time to pull out all the stops. We can only hope and pray that this one works and helps flatten the curve while science searches for vaccines and other solutions.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
A combo of exotic HIV drugs might have some effect. That is good news, but of the very minor variety as it hasn’t really been studied yet
It’s too hard to scale unfortunately...
March 16th, 2020 at 10:22 AM ^
IT’S CORONA TIME!!
March 16th, 2020 at 10:59 AM ^
You missed the memo. We have to convert to Dos Equis.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
Modelo ftw
March 16th, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^
Tecate por favor
March 16th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
si mas Tecate
Carta Blanca is the best.
Ehh, I’m a Pacifico guy myself
March 16th, 2020 at 10:27 AM ^
Interesting. Let's hope.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
That's great but long term is not too much of an issue, unless there's evidence of significant mutation. Serum theropy ASAP is great news.
In terms of more immediate good news that will indicate a light at the end of this tunnel, I'm looking for an inflection point in the reported cases. I don't expect to see it until April (mostly due to the painfully late testing scenario the US is in), but the sooner the better of course. In the graph below, we are currently in the left part of the red curve: exponential growth. Inflection in the red curve happens at the blue line. The increase in cases reported will continue but it will be a "diminishing return" type increase.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:30 AM ^
Countries that took quick action in testing and containing (like Taiwan) have already flattened. When you have competent leadership it makes a big difference.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:42 AM ^
Yep. Trump should have acted sooner. Just like Obama in 2009 shouldn't have waited until a thousand people died to declare a state of emergency for swine flu.
Politicians are politicians.
March 16th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
Did you actually go to Michigan or are you some hillbilly, racist, truck driver who follows drinks his despot leaders cum a little too much?
i like the diversions that morons like you fall for. Go eat a dick
March 16th, 2020 at 11:02 AM ^
The people politicizing this against Trump are just as bad. I’ve never been a Trump supporter, think he is pretty routinely a jackass, and I don’t think he acted quick enough with some measures. However, just as a plain old American, I think his consistently positive “gonna take care of this” rhetoric has actually helped a lot of people remain sane in the last few days.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^
No, it caused 1/3 of the country to become entirely complacent and fail to take even the most basic precautions. A poll out yesterday revealed that only 30% of that side of the isle will be limiting gatherings due to the virus. And that is going to cause a lot of pain, suffering, and dying.
Nevermind the fact that his credibility is shot, so no one believes a damn word he says about anything. He should really just STFU completely and let literally anyone else handle the situation.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:20 AM ^
Ok. I am not saying you are wrong, and you feel how you feel. I just don’t think it is particularly helpful at the precise moment. It just further divides people at a time when we should be trying to come together. Could be wrong, just my opinion.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
Holy shit. The irony just drips from this post after all of the crap you have been spouting.
I'm honestly stunned.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
Keep up the hate Timmmay if it makes you feel better.
He's not hating on solely zero basis. You've said some pretty irresponsible things.
It does not make me "feel better". It's very distressing, if you care to know the truth.
March 16th, 2020 at 12:32 PM ^
We are literally in the middle of required social distancing and you're talking about trying to come together???
March 16th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
What further divides people?
Trump and the admin are flat out contradicting the medical community and his infectious disease officials. When we need consistent messaging and to come together, they're going in two directions because they think going out and spending money is best for the economy (and their chances of re-election) even though that's incredibly short-sighted because what's best for the economy long term is to stop this thing from spreading, even if it requires short time sacrifice.
yeah it has everything to do with political leadership and zero to do with MORONIC American mindset. Buy every damn roll of toilet paper, horde supplies for themselves and fuck everyone...to a point watching people buy carts full of paper towels, etc...don't blame trump until you are ready to blame each other for being panic induced morons... it's a damn virus. Stay home...wash your hands. STOP CROWDING STORES LIKE IT IS DOOMSDAY...people are making the situation what it is with social media chicken littles and gluttony purchasing. Fuck sakes...you don't need twenty gallons of milk...it's a highly contagious virus. And busting ass to buy up every last sample of everything is the state of our 'rights' bullshit.
And why can't we do both?
These are not mutually exclusive. Blame Trump for his games and lack of leadership AND those that are hording goods...see its not that hard :)
Leaders should be held accountable during times of crisis. If that is politicizing according to the Laura Ingram's of the world, then so be it
The starting point for accountability for you and yours then, would be China. Given, you know, that's where it originated , was covered up, and spread.
Trump deserves criticism here, but the order of operations begins with China.
But you don't care about leaders being held accountable, you just care about politics. And in this climate, that's vomitous.
Given the same set of facts, I’d think this crisis was handled poorly regardless of who was president. I have no problem saying that multiple republican governors have handled this well. Not sure why you think you have some special power to discern whether people care passionately about an issue because of policy or politcs.
I didn't know I could vote for Xi Jinping and that he gives a crap about my vote.
We did, however, have weeks, if not months of warning time to take this virus seriously and yet nothing was done until it was, "oopsies, we'd better take this seriously now".
March 16th, 2020 at 11:24 AM ^
And yet, just a few days ago, he proclaimed himself "not responsible!".
You're so fucking brainwashed and dumb if you believe this.
The US has fewer deaths than Italy, Spain, France, and South Korea. All countries much smaller than the US. Our response has been fine thus far. Excessive if anything.
I love how you somehow managed to completely ignore the fact that dozens of Democratic governors also didn't do anything. The country is in crisis and all you can say is "orange man bad, vote Democratic." Get fucked, asshole.
That is the stupid argument ive seen. we are right behind Europe. Our policies nationally have followed Italy. Italy and Korea were exactly at the same flashpoint two weeks ago and they chose very different paths forward.
Trump is still two weeks behind the rest of the United States and the rest of the world in policies. He announced a limit of 10 people gatherings today when the rest of the world is saying no gatherings are acceptable.
Here is all the data anyone needs.
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
March 16th, 2020 at 10:28 PM ^
Wow, this is an insanely ignorant comment. The reason our numbers are lower is because it hasn't maxed out here. By all estimates, that will happen in the next 1-2 weeks - during which most people still won't be able to be tested, let alone treated, because our imbecile president eliminated the White House pandemic office and pretended the virus was "no big deal" and would just magically "go away." Be less ignorant.
No one believes anything anyone with a political affiliation ( be it media or individual) has to say anymore unless they’ve predetermined to follow the same ideology. If Fox News hadnt turned into a cartoon of patriotic fervor during the bush era people mite have some level of trust in what they report. If CNN hadn’t been caught red handed blatantly lying, misleading and fear mongering on a nightly bases for the past 6 years someone mite take what they report seriously. As someone in the middle politically it’s comical that either side thinks they have some kind of moral high ground on truth or intelligence.
a big part of the problem is the insistence on sides. I can point to both republicans and democrats that are listening to science and making decisions based on that. I can also find republicans and democrats hat are not. Ironically this crisis has given me more hope that there actually are reasonable people on both sides that can find ways to work together and find common ground to solve problems than I’ve felt in a long time.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:43 PM ^
Polls on this issue are virtually worthless.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^
His rhetoric has been lies, as it always has been. The mid week address was a disaster, he downplayed the virus and ignored the experts as long as he could until there was a point of no choice. He called it a hoax 3 weeks ago. Saying we're gonna take care of this is litterally the least he could do. It's amazing how low of a bar people have for this guy.
The biggest issue over the last 30 years has been the constant narrative of any sort of criticism or praise for an individual comes from behind a politically extreme pair of glasses that cause that criticism. Trump is not the same as Bush 43 (who I thought performed admirably in the immediate after math of 9/11 and I thought he was/is as dumb as a bag 'o hammers); not the same as Romney (who idealogically is at the opposite end of myself but is at least a grounded and morally consistent actor); not the same as McCain (who was the last R I would have considered voting for and a model of an American politician); Certianly not the same as Mike DeWine of OH who I cannot praise enough for his response and leadership during this crisis.
So if, after praising a half dozen republicans, you think I'm viewing things behind lefty goggles IDK what else there is to say.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^
Agree. No one has all the answers. When people make it political, that's not American and make everything worse. E.g. toilet paper hoarding lunatics. Maybe these types should seek out people that actaully need help and lend a hand vs. making matters worse. Guess being responsible isn't taught any longer.
March 16th, 2020 at 11:32 AM ^
I would actually prefer some fact based statements as opposed to the president's prognostications. It is crazytown to me that the president is consistently making statements that are directly contradictory to what the top experts in the field are saying. The cherry on top being his stated belief that he really understands the stuff and could've been a doctor. I can tell you with a 10000% certainty there are not doctors lining up to tell him what a good job he's doing (contrary to what he has stated).
The problem is that Trump treated it as though it were politics. He called it a hoax, and tried to artificially keep the numbers low while hoping for a miracle. The Friday press conference where he tried to borrow credibility from corporate America was good, but his lies about Google and test kits etc. need to stop. I'm glad Pence and Mnuchin are starting to be the face of this instead of Trump.
Mnuchin was on This Week on Sunday and was brilliant in not answering the "Why is Trump such a lying Yutz and isn't he hindering everything?" questions. We need people giving truthful consistent answers. I'm happy the grown ups seem to be taking over a bit.
When all the misinformation kills my 79 yo father I'm going to be really really pissed.
For real - my mother is 68 and has had asthma her whole life. She's very much at risk. I have a 75+ yo uncle who lives in Venice as well, its a pretty dangerous time for him.
It bothers me when people like Devin Nunes (don't worry - I won't get started on him) go on TV to suggest that people should hang out at their local pub. And he said this LAST NIGHT. Also, Fox News ran an opinion piece by some dude, who does not appear to be a doctor or health professional, questioning the logic behind Dr. Fauci's call to limit interaction with other people and ironically saying something like "we won't be able to trust our government officials" on this until he answers certain questions.
I'm not trying to be alarmist or political but this situation sucks and it affects everyone. We all have to just bite the bullet for the next few weeks. The sooner we get it under control the sooner we can get back to normal. I believe competent leadership would've said that from the beginning.
The Fox News op-ed guy basically said that kids and young healthy people don't get it so why should we be so concerned? But this is a horrible horrible fallacy - we should be concerned because those people can transmit it so easily to at-risk populations. It's very simple. But, people like your father and my mother don't count to them in this scenario.
Take the precautions. Don't do it for yourself, do it for other people.
Someone actually said kids don't get it? There's a five-year old in a suburb of Detroit that has it. Kids probably have it and we may not know because schools can be germ factories. Lots of kids have colds and fever this time of year and the last thing anyone wants is a kid with this virus to spread it to their grandparent. Yes, young people have an easier time with it. But you don't want them to get it and spread it to someone vulnerable.
you keep saying that, but everything you post defends Trump---and in perhaps his worst moment
I guess some people just want to be lied to.
Careful man, any support of the Prez, Republicans, or a conservative point of view on here will get you neg’d and ostracized.
Facts are facts.
~coming from a Libertarian
March 16th, 2020 at 11:22 AM ^
Jesus Christ, dude. You okay?
March 16th, 2020 at 11:31 AM ^
Fuck you you insufferable goddamm prick.