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This is a semi-professional…

This is a semi-professional sport at this point.. I'm not saying it's a bad thing necessarily but it's a different thing. I wish they'd just drop all pretenses and call it what it is.. 

I remember the angst and…

I remember the angst and gnashing of teeth in the past when people would compare our stars to thars in SEC and OSU teams. Then Michigan beat OSU three in a row and just won a national championship. And we can appreciate the coaches landing a player who fits our needs.

Here's to OSU spending all the money in the world to stand on third base.

They have developed a…

They have developed a culture and identity. It starts with ownership.

I had watched that over and…

I had watched that over and over to make sure it wasn't a blindside block and he definitely saw it coming but got clobbered nonetheless.

I find it amusing that OSU…

I find it amusing that OSU essentially self immolated because of a six point road loss to the eventual National Champion. All they had to do was literally nothing different and with McCord returning, Michigan losing a lot of key players, and playing at home next year they would have almost assuredly won The Game. I think every Michigan fan is grateful that OSU decided to give Michigan a chance for four in a row.

Yes, but when they are…

Yes, but when they are employees they can unionize and strike. They can get healthcare, retirement, and revenue sharing. But, perhaps more importantly, it was mentioned in an earlier thread that the University can only engage in activities that further its academic mission. The example brought up was that the University can have cafeterias for the students but couldn't open restaurants. Hence the charade of "student athletes" - if the players were only there for football, as employees, then could the University really be in this "business". That is, the University cannot own/run a minor league team.

Agreed. I'm old enough to…

Agreed. I'm old enough to remember Bo turning down the Aggies in 1982.

If Coach Harbaugh wants to go the NFL, great - just do it. If he wants to stay, then FFS just stay and be done with it.

Alr, I read through all…

Alr, I read through all these comments and lots of good points brought up. These are negotiations and each side will ask for whatever they want. With that said, if I'm Michigan, the immunity thing is never going to fly. And there's no NFL team that's going to give any kind of guarantee like that either.

Love our Coach but he has a big personality and he rubs administration/administrators the wrong way. He's not one to get along, he's one that people ask "What's your problem?". What's his life expectancy at a team in the NFL? Maybe 4-6 years. Then what, another NFL program before he retires? Maybe get a Super Bowl ring if he's lucky?

It really comes down to what he wants in life at this point. Stay at Michigan and be potentially its greatest coach, have a statue and a building named after you, be The Legend here? Or try for the white whale of a Super Bowl championship? At this point, it's not about the money, it's about defining your legacy.

It's been 30 years…

It's been 30 years... Whatever penance was expected of the Fab Five has been paid in full.

The only thing we know is…

The only thing we know is that we don't know anything.

I'm fine with rumors if…

I'm fine with rumors if clearly labeled in the title as such:  RUMOR: Pettiti resigns in worst scandal in college football history

It's no skyfall for Alabama…

It's no skyfall for Alabama as they'll rebuild fine with Deboer. It's just a casino royale out there with the transfer portal.

He had a terrific career…

He had a terrific career here and wish him all the best in the future!

Heather Dinich was still…

Heather Dinich was still trying to keep that BS narrative going on her write up if the national championship game. Having mostly ignored ESPN this season, I found myself wondering who in the world is this stupid person writing this article. 

I'll add that it was more…

I'll add that it was more than just Brady being great. Having a great QB would've won a couple trophies. What made him great was that he didn't ask for all the money in the world. By asking for less money, restructuring his contracts, they were able to pay for a better supporting cast around him. In other words, being unselfish and valuing the victory as a team rather just going for money. Obvs, it helped that his wife was super rich, but still I think Brady would've done the same thing.

I think Vrabel to the…

I think Vrabel to the Patriots makes sense. He'd be their Dan Campbell.

^^ This times a million

^^ This times a million

#BeatWashington

#BeatWashington

#FinishTheJob

#GoBlue

Wasn't me but I would've…

Wasn't me but I would've written "Greatest Scandal in the History of College Football"

The Michigan Difference

The Michigan Difference

My fave:  Little Tony Petitti

My fave:  Little Tony Petitti

I was going to say the same…

I was going to say the same thing. For those just reading, please please play the highlights he put together from the game and how he edited it to go along with the music. It's absolutely sensational work. And, because I'm particularly OCD, I love that he starts those highlights at exactly 8:00 into the video. I have the utmost respect for anyone with that kind of attention to detail (pay very close attention, he completely made it 8:00 on purpose as he could have made it a second or two earlier).

I go to 11W periodically to…

I go to 11W periodically to see how they are thinking about their team. There are a few rational people there who realize that they lost to the #1 team in the country by 6 points on the road. They would've been in the playoff next year. Instead, they want to fire everybody except Knowles. They drove McCord out of town only to discover the backups were worse and their "best" option is now a transfer QB worse than McCord.

When you don't understand why you are losing, you can never win. What Harbaugh did to start winning started with having a consistent identity for the team. But, even more, he took away some of the built in advantages of Michigan's opponents. You're using bag men to get recruits? Well, let's have NIL and level the playing field a bit. You're hoarding all the best recruits? Okay, let's allow players to transfer without losing a year of eligibility and no questions asked. SEC has a bias in its favor for the 4-team championship? Well, let's have a playoff and give more teams a chance.

I have no love for OSU and wish them decades of slogging through coach after coach trying to figure out how to get back on top. I love that they seem to be blowing up the ship out of arrogance and hope they turn into the wastelands of great programs that were Nebraska, Michigan, and Alabama before they found themselves again (is Nebraska coming out of it?).

#BeatWashington

#FinishTheJob

Run the ball. Washington is…

Run the ball. Washington is not better than OSU with Stroud. Odunze is better than Harrison Jr. IMHO and he'll make plays but Washington's defense is not as tough as OSU, Penn State, Iowa, or Bama. Need to finish the job and this team can do it.

#BeatWashington

The OSU fanbase is…

The OSU fanbase is insufferable. Somehow, "the biggest cheating scandal" in the history of the universe is ongoing and "those cheaters" and blah blah blah. I'd enjoy their tears more if they weren't such asshats.

POSBANG!

POSBANG!

Can we just have a permanent…

Can we just have a permanent Fuck Pete Thamel sticky? And/or a Hall of Fucks [Sticky]?

#BeatBama

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas!

This is an important point…

This is an important point. I’m not worried about the overall ranking of the class as much as where we are in the important positions: QB, O-line, D-line, cornerback. And whether that is built through the draft (out of high school) or free agency (transfer portal), it doesn’t really matter. 

Water is wet, I suppose.

Water is wet, I suppose.

#BeatBama

"We" don't really know…

"We" don't really know anything but we're not privy to private conversations. Give JJ his moment. He's still a kid and enjoying college and probably doesn't know what he wants to do yet. As a Michigan fan, I'd rather him concentrate on beating Alabama. If he stays, that's great. If he leaves, well then the coaches will figure it out. 

I take it you've never…

I take it you've never experienced cancer nor had someone close to you go through it. For the person with cancer, sometimes your day is miserable. You feel awful from the treatment or just not being able to do what you want. It's a battle to get to up. It's a battle to go to your appointments. It's a battle to take your treatments. It's a battle to eat, to sleep, or enjoy your life. It's a battle to accept your fate.

So, it is a fight. A fight for your life and happiness. That's why it's a battle.

I believe you're conflating…

I believe you're conflating state-supported / state-funded with state-run. As far as the University of Michigan goes, while the Board of Regents is elected via a statewide vote as a public university, there's no state control over hirings/firings and certainly the State of Michigan does not get any revenue from the University. Likewise, employees of the University of Michigan are not "state employees".

Agreed. It's just a question…

Agreed. It's just a question of mechanics. The usual "not a lawyer" stuff, but can you call the players employees, make something separate, and pay them outside of Title IX? I don't think revenue sharing would eliminate NIL, so this wouldn't solve the issues that Kelly is worried about. And how long before basketball follows suit?

I'm not going to put this…

I'm not going to put this game on our defense; it's really going to be on our offense. Michigan can't play to "not lose" as it has the last several games. It has to go out like Texas did and play to win. Like Michigan did against Urban Meyer's Florida squad in Lloyd Carr's last game.

Milroe will make mistakes if Alabama is constantly trying to catch up to Michigan. This is a winnable game if Michigan goes away from some of its core tendencies.

McCord would be starter and…

McCord would be starter and that would give Raiola a year to grow and learn.

Eh, I've decided it's Upvote…

Eh, I've decided it's Upvote Saturday on MGoBlog and reposts qualify.

At The Game this year, there…

At The Game this year, there was an OSU fan sitting in front of me. He was mostly a reasonable sort and we had a fun back and forth most of the game. There was a play where Michigan's player was ruled to have caught a pass but it was clearly incomplete and would be (correctly) overturned on replay. While the replay was being shown on the screen, the OSU fan looks at me and points to the screen and I nod because it's obviously incomplete.

However, once the ruling was actually overturned, I yelled "REFS YOU SUCK, even when you're right!". Then I said to the OSU fan, "That's for the 4th quarter when we actually need a call. Welcome to Michigan Stadium."

First, I love this and…

First, I love this and thanks for posting.

While the overall team ranking for talent is interesting, I wonder how this graph looks if broken down by talent at specific position groups and particularly at QB, O-line, D-line, and CB (and perhaps other position groups if time allowed). I think looking at the data in that regard would help give a relative weighting to each position which would be more helpful when looking at the overall team talent.

For instance, while Clemson may have overall great team talent, if their QB is mediocre then that talent will be more likely wasted and appear to "underperform" when really the talent on the team was overestimated as it was unweighted by important position group(s).

Maybe even double…

Maybe even double cheeseburger level

So you're saying that the…

So you're saying that the responsible thing to do with allegations is investigate the source, their motivations, determine the veracity of the accusation, determine whether there is any rules violation, gauge the severity of the violation, then determine whether punishment is needed or warranted, and only after administer a punishment?

Hmmm.. it's almost as if you are advocating for some sort of due process, following previously set guidelines and not arbitrarily jumping to conclusions and penalties. I'm glad this is exactly how the B1G and NCAA operate.

Ryan Day had to know this…

Ryan Day had to know this was going on. The only sensible punishment is to require OSU to give him a guaranteed 10-year contract.

This is the most serious…

This is the most serious violation in the history of college sports. They'll need to vacate future wins if he goes to OSU.

That comment cuts both ways…

That comment cuts both ways as he already has gotten hurt in college. If he gets hurt again, he'll never get the opportunity to play pro football and will end up worse off.

I agree with your last point…

I agree with your last point completely. Henderson seems to get injured a lot and I don't see him lasting in the NFL for more than a couple seasons. I wonder what he gets in NIL money down there..

Baker's dozen: 13

Baker's dozen: 13

Rumor down there is…

Rumor down there is Henderson is coming back... But until he formally announces, who knows...

Galloway criticized the "we"…

Galloway criticized the "we" but then inadvertently and unironically said "we" himself.

Now calling him Yugo... Not…

Now calling him Yugo... Not much class down there

+1 Underrated

+1 Underrated