Semi-OT/CC: Pitt says no on Schiano, targeting Narduzzi instead

Submitted by Decatur Jack on

Apparently Pitt won't even interview Greg Schiano, much to the chagrin of Pitt fans, who were by and large on board with the idea of hiring him. (see the comments section)

Clearly we did not say enough nice things about "Schiano to Pitt" to appease the football gods. On the plus side, Pitt is considering Pat Narduzzi as their top candidate...

SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT THIS DAMMIT

/probably being superstitious

brewandbluesaturdays

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:13 PM ^

I think he will succeed if he gets his chance. My friends who are sparty fans and follow the team pretty closely attribute the defense and the Michigan State success more to Narduzzi than Mark Dantonio.

maize-blue

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^

I think MSU peaked in 2013 under Dantonio. If Narduzzi wants his own gig, he'll probably have to make a move soon.

1974

December 22nd, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^

Langord and Lippett? Sure.

Mumphrey and Hill? Easily replaced ...

Look closely at Hill's season and you'll see (Indiana) his equivalent of "Max Biefeldt vs. Bucknell." (Not entirely fair, I supposed, unless we want to subtract Jeremy Gallon's '13 game against them.) UMich passing on him in '10 was a good, if unpopular in some parts, decision IMO.

123blue

December 22nd, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^

I don't think they're great either, but they were the #2 WR and RB respectively...which says something about the other WRs as those dudes were way more heavily recruited.  Also maybe says something about Kings (he of the "he's a playmaker" fame).

MDot

December 22nd, 2014 at 1:49 PM ^

Burbridge was the #2 WR for them.

 

They won't have any problem replacing Mumphrey or/and especially Hill, who only played over Delton Williams b/c of seniority.

 

Langford & Lippett could be huge blows for them, tho. Delton Williams might be more talented, but Langford was the MVP on that offense the last 2 years. And with the way Cook likes to lock on to targets, his stock will drop A LOT next year if he doesn't find chemistry with their primary threat next year.

123blue

December 22nd, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^

I guess #2 WR depends on how you measure it...if by receptions, Burbridge was #3; if by yards, he's #5 (with Mumphrey at #2).  I think Hill had some value and don't think anyone gets reps just because they're older.

In any event, who knows what's going to happen with MSU? The D is losing talent, the O might be needed to step up and they actually have to play some serious road games next year.  I also agree about Cook.  I would've gone pro if I were him, even if only to hold a clipboard for the next 4 years before getting some shifts at Sibley's shoes.

thisisme08

December 22nd, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^

Not really. We "passed" on him to take Austin White who flunked/kicked out of not 1 but 2 schools. If we would have taken Hill and White stayed as a legacy recruit for MSU then we keep a contributor of their squad and they get the known headcase.

Hannibal.

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

This would be a good move for Narduzzi.  He has a great track record as a coordinator but given that it has been at only one university, Pitt is probably the ceiling of where he will be getting offers.  If he has a couple of good seasons there then he will be a prime candidate for other jobs. 

alum96

December 22nd, 2014 at 4:43 PM ^

It's a perfect stepping stone job for him.  He is a Youngstown OH guy (east Ohio) and Pitt is in west PA.  I think he grew up within 100 miles of campus.  His dad was a position coach at Pitt.  He recruits that area.  His personality is suited for that sort of town vs say Colorado Springs.   And no he is not getting any better offers - every single high level job in the Big 10 has been open in the past 12 months not named OSU and he was not sniffed for any of them (UM, Wiscy, Nebraska, PSU). 

Pitt is in the crap side of the ACC (akin to the Big 10 west) and the conf as a whole might be the only one as bad as the Big 10.  If he is a good coach he should be winning 8 games a year and then can leave in 3 yeas.  Chryst actually turned that team around pretty nicely - they ranked top 50 in both offense and defense this year with the offense farther ahead (Chryst being an OC).  So in theory he comes in an does the same for the defense and he has a young team handed to him from Chryst.

I dont see Dantonio going anywhere for at least 6 years so if Narduzzi is not a creation of Dantonio and actually decent on his own he probably gets his own decent P5 job after this.

Decatur Jack

December 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

Read that again, a GREAT FIT for Pitt. That they're not even going to interview him makes absolutely no sense.

As much as I want Narduzzi out of East Lansing, I can't see Pitt's rationale here. At least the fans are none too pleased (about Schiano not getting a shot). Schiano might not make sense for Michigan, but he makes a ton of sense for Pittsburgh.

alum96

December 22nd, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^

Maybe they believe Schiano will use Pitt just as a stepping stone and while Narduzzi may do that too - he may just stay there for 5-6 yeas until Dantonio retires.  Instead of bolting in 3 years.  They are on their 3rd coach in 4 years.

The other guy apparently under strong consideration is Marshall's Doc Holiday (NTDH)

clarkiefromcanada

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

FWIW, Schiano has a stronger resume than Narduzzi and is experienced recruiting the East Coast. Narduzzi is clearly talented but has no offensive upside...would be interesting to see him put together a staff (and who he takes out of EL, obviously).

The Sparty myth making and narrative about Narduzzi would be interesting: either a) it's Dantonio who makes the D and they can "live without him" or b) their defense will be a question mark with him gone. Since no Sparty is rational, I'm predicting every single one of them goes with a.

LJ

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^

It's not like Option A is irrational.  Dantonio was an excellet DC at OSU and it is very difficult to know how much of that defense is Narduzzi's doing.  Maybe they'll have some dropoff, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they keep right on chugging along.

Eye of the Tiger

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

The truth is probably somewhere between. I recall reading an article in Smart Football that implied they came up with the scheme together at Cincinnati, but that it was Narduzzi who told Dantonio what kind of players he needed to run it effectively. Take that with a grain of salt, as my memory may be faulty, but that would imply Narduzzi is more responsible for running the thing and Dantonio for putting the right pieces in place.



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alum96

December 22nd, 2014 at 4:49 PM ^

Agreed, it is always somewhere in the middle.  But if its 80/20 Dantonio to Naduzzi is not good for Narduzzi - but who knows.  Dantonio is a very good defensive coach with a great eye for unearthing gems and might be the best DB coach in the country.  That is his speciality.  He is about to put Trae Waynes into the NFL as a 1st round pick early entry and that would be 2 first round picks back to back at CB with Waynes and Dennard.  And both were 2 star types. 

Anyhow if Narduzzi goes it would be good if he takes another guy off the staff for his DC.  MSU has been very fortunate to have almost perfect staff continuity on the D aside from the DL coach who Dantonio canned a few years back.  

It would be funny if he hired Fickell away from OSU as his DC but he probably just promotes Tressel from within ... or Harlon Barnett.  If one of those 2 doesnt join Narduzzi.

MI Expat NY

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^

And to be fair, isn't every fan base going to act that way?

If they drop off next year it will because they may lose three or so guys with eligibility remaining to the NFL.  I don't buy that MSU is a program that can just plug the next guy in for early departures.  Also, finally losing Rush is going to be a blow.  

wesq

December 22nd, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^

Do you believe that guard development under Belien since 2011 is mostly attributable to LaVall Jordan or Beilein?  Do you believe the program would tank if Coach Jordan or Coach Alexander left? Are you irrational? 

Mr Miggle

December 22nd, 2014 at 4:00 PM ^

Ask Bud Foster or Tom Bradley. Pitt's is about as good a job that being DC at MSU will lead to outside of MSU. Being HC at Pitt can open up a lot of possibilities, without excluding going back to MSU. In the meantime, the experience should make him a better coach.

Bo Knows

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:23 PM ^

Anyone think Schiano should just stay in the NFL as a DC, then work his way back up?

If he has fallen that out of favor with the NFL guys then he should just take any D1 head coach position and prove he still has it. A lot like Petrino did.



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Maximinus Thrax

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^

They have looked at Schiano and Narduzzi?  What about Addazio? Steve Mariucci? Steve Spagnuolo?  Mike Belotti?  Mark Mangino? Tony Sparano?  There are a ton of highly qualified candidates out there!

Mich OC

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

Part of me wants Narduzzi to stay at MSU so we can beat them down at full strength if we hire Harbaugh.  It would make the victories that much sweeter.

alum96

December 22nd, 2014 at 5:00 PM ^

First thanks for the avatar

Second no that defense can be beat with an accurate and consistent QB.  2013 was an exception as the D was truly elite with 2 NFL 1st round CBs on it.  That is almost unheard of at the NCAA level.   But all other years you need a QB who can throw 8-15 yard patterns consistently.  We have not had one with all due respect to Denard and Devin.   Purdue put out a QB in his 2nd game of his career and he put up 31 pts on that D.   OSU and Oregon go without saying, nearly 100 pts between the 2.  When you have one weak corner in that system it starts to fail.  But most Big 10 QBs are so trashy they cant take advantage.

In the Pac 12 and the Big 12 the QBs would exploit that D way more than Big 10 or ACC teams can.  Lack of NFL type QBs in those 2 leagues.  Gary Nova was the 3rd best starting QB this year in our league.

It's a defense totally committed to stopping the run - its break dont bend defense.  If you break it, you have big plays all over the place.  But it requires a good QB to break it.   You need the pass to set up the run, otherwise they just committ 8 guys to the run.   Its the perfect defense for the Big 10 where until even last year every team had a bunch of run based QBs (even Braxton Miller who was inaccurate as a thrower).

Don

December 22nd, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

because it doesn't definitively remove Schiano from an Apocalypse Plan Z scenario for us.

So much for Schiano's much-ballyhooed "I'm a new man so hire me now" campaign.