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|2 days 17 hours ago||Next coming of Drew Brees?||
I sure hope so (Brees II, that is). I'll wait to see if he can work his magic when everyone is bigger 'n stronger 'n faster. Same with Perry ...
|3 days 16 hours ago||Forums?||
In the old days (and maybe still) there used to be discussion areas (or forums) for UM football, UM basketball, etc. It was like MGoBlog with almost all the thoughtful posts excluded.
|3 days 17 hours ago||beer guy||
Some time afterward I saw a TV interview with the guy that threw the beer. He seemed like a first-rate sociopath. IIRC he was a contractor of some type and I remember wondering how many people he'd ripped off.
|4 days 16 hours ago||elephants in the living room||
Overall Lloyd was a very good coach. As many have noted, his record was good and he won a national championship.
Why not great?
"... put more players on NFL rosters than any team save Miami (YTM)."
That wasn't accompanied by any citations, but I recall reading that UMich was a Top 5 NFL factory at one point. A *great* coach would've had more Top 5 finishes than Lloyd. A great coach wouldn've been a threat to win another national championship more often than Lloyd. Instead, we had to suffer through early season losses to ND or a Pac Ten team on the road.
|4 days 22 hours ago||sig||
Upvote to the OP for that sig ....
|5 days 11 hours ago||'08||
I think he had some help with that. (That's not saying his contribution to the conflagration wasn't meaningful.)
|5 days 11 hours ago||poll||
You should -- really -- ask Lloyd's boys (Aaron Shea, Dhani Jones, et al.) about that.
|5 days 12 hours ago||speculation||
He was also a missed field goal away from a win with USC. I'd agree, though, that he's had a fortunate season.
Keep in mind that he's working mostly with 3-star runoff from the SW quadrant of the country. There's no question that he has improved Arizona's team. Whether he can raise it to a conference champion is another question, but I think it would be difficult to call him a bad coach. (Obviously no consolation to those who will never forgive him for ending the bowl streak .....)
|5 days 12 hours ago||bile duct||
It (bile duct cancer) is not a "zebra," but it's close:
Quite uncommon in the absence of certain environmental factors ...
Anyway, your post resonated with me because I'm on the old side of this blog's population.
|1 week 3 days ago||Carr's seniors||
So ... the one season of Carr education that Molk, Van Bergen et al. got in '07 while redshirting was all that propelled Michigan to 11-2 *four* years later in '11?
Didn't have much to do with Denard, Lewan, and the recruits after that point?
|1 week 3 days ago||big picture||
I'd suggest that the conference was mediocre during those years. Look at its Rose Bowl record for the '70s: 1-9
Michigan was to football during that period what Kansas was for many years in basketball (a team with a slightly outsized rep based on beating up a crappy conference).
|1 week 5 days ago||disasters||
Those NFL sites are sh*t shows. For real fun, try accessing one from Firefox with the NoScript plug-in installed.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Perles?||
George Perles? A meathead like him is a decent match for that particular Sparty post.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||background||
Despite his interesting background and credentials, DB in his current role seems like a turd polisher above all else. He seems to believe that impressions can be fully manipulated by smart guys like him.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||exploitation||
"He took one side of the story and exploited The football program to make money."
You mean Michael Rosenberg?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||LSU||
Les Miles: 61. Spent. End of story.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||t.o.p.||
Time of posssesion is EVERYTHING. The team that CONTROLS THE BALL and KEEPS THE DEFENSE OFF THE FIELD will win every time. As evidence I'd like to cite:
I'm obviously kidding. That whiteboard is embarrassing and seems like a mildly fireable offense to me. @#$%.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||op||
This is unintentional comedy at its finest. Good work, OP.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||details||
How closely did you read "Art of War?" :)
"First off, it is a fact that MSU got more in state highly ranked recruits than RichRod."
Oh, really? Where's your list? I'll give you a start in the opposite direction: Will Campbell was pretty highly rated in '09 and I think he went to Michigan.
[Aside, a clue: Most people here have realized that Dantonio has been thriving with 3-star (and, in some cases, two-star, like LeVeon Bell and Dennard) recruits that were overlooked by high D-1 schools.]
"Secondly, I never said none of the midgets contributed."
True, that. Just mentioning them weakened your post, though. Why bother at all?
"If you have a high opinion of Rich Rod and his regime here ..."
Huh? I think RichRod was a mixed bag. The whole process was a two-way street.
"Rich Rod is responsible for part of his performance here."
|6 weeks 3 days ago||obvious||
No $hit. This (recruiting under duress, that is) basic idea escapes 90% of the anti-RichRod posters on this board.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||one||
"There is one reason why RR isnt here today ..."
Not much for complexity, are you? :)
|6 weeks 3 days ago||midgets||
Where number of posts > 200 on a RichRod article, we're almost guaranteed to get one like this.
NelzQ, you're not the first. Go ahead, though, if you wouldn't mind: Give me a list of Michigan "blue chippers" (say, guys with a 4-star rating from Rivals/Scout) that Rodriguez completely ignored. Give me the subset that wound up at MSU.
Then, give me a list of "midgets" that made no contribution to Michigan football. I'd suggest leaving Jeremy Gallon (who, at 5'8", probably meets your spec) off the list.
NelzQ and his ilk never seem to consider what it would be like recruiting with some of the prior regime and the local press on your a$$ from the get-go.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||cupboard||
It's one thing to say that the cupboard was bare and another to say it was *left* bare. (Latter less fair than former, of course ...)
Where do you get four offensive linemen? I see Schilling, Mitchell, and Mr. Plow. (I'm not counting Massey.) You see that the number went to one, right?
1. Mitchell was emblematic of the post-2001 offensive line at Michigan. Over the course of several years, there were three guys (Long, Baas, and a guy whose name I can't remember) who had more than a cup of coffee in the NFL. (Bouncing across multiple practice squads doesn't count.) The much-maligned Rodriguez managed to tie that in a couple of years (Omameh, Schofield, and Lewan).
2. No way was Boren sticking around. That has been covered here ad nauseum.
It wasn't realistic for Manningham and Arrington to stay, either. They struck while the iron was relatively hot. Staying around for a new offense would have been a risk.
There will never be a definitive Mallet answer/story.
"Fact" >>> Only one returning starter on offense made the NFL (Schilling).
Also, the quarterbacking was the worst since about 1984. Care to argue otherwise?
Case closed? Really?
If you want to argue about the other side of the ball, I'd be open to that. They had an underrated amount of talent that year. Based on a quick count I see at least four guys who were either drafted or had decent careers.
- - -
Time has shown us that Lloyd's last three recruiting classes ('05, '06, and '07) ultimately did not measure up (or even close) to his earler bunches. The '08 team was the least talented since who-knows-when in terms of overall NFL talent. RichRod was set up for .500 ball at best.
I think it can be argued that Lloyd's staff was peppered with mediocrities the last few years. Not many of them have amounted to much. Certainly there are no obvious head-coaching candidates among them even after seven years.
Again, cupboard bare != cupboard _left_ bare
|7 weeks 5 days ago||raising||
Why has no one asked the silly (but obvious, IMO) question:
Is "Cold War" the leader of the Athletic Department gnomes that come here to support the status quo? His/her join date isn't perfect (a year late), but I wonder.
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||supporters||
Andy seems like a great guy from a distance, but I've never heard him say anything truly interesting about Michigan football.
As for Morris, he always looks momentarily stunned when someone throws a non-standard question at him (one where standard cliches aren't a good response).
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||stars||
"Michigan has chased after the top ranked guys, the guys with all the measurables, and more or less, the results have been just okay. We won more games with smart, overachieving, under the radar types (see: Brian Griese and Tom Brady) than we did with the pre-college all-americans with oodles of accolades."
Do any of the other 21 positions matter? Do you think _maybe_ having a once-in-a-generation talent at CB (that Heisman guy) might have had a little more to do with '97's success than Griese?
Do you think that having a QB with "Andrew Luck" talent (instead of a "game manager") would have been detrimental to the '97 team?
Sorry -- you sound a little too much like the "3-star players are just as likely to be good as 5-star players" crowd.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Wiscy||
We should emulate Wisconsin. They hit people in the mouth, pound the rock, get ten yards per carry, and never lose any games.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||old days||
They were most hilarious on Jamie Morris. It looked like he was all shoulders.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||bit||
michgoblue, I thought this little part marred an otherwise interesting post:
".... RichRod allowing State to raid to in-state talent in from 2008-2010 ...."
Did the Wiscy guy *really* say that? Hard to believe someone across the lake would have knowledge at that level of detail, especially because ...
This is a silly myth that has been refuted many times on this blog. Pretty everyone nowadays knows that Dantonio has gotten it done with Midwestern 3-star run-off. There are very few instances of impact (as in, future) players picking MSU over UMich. One of many examples is the 2-star Georgian Darqueeze Dennard.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||EMU traveling||
I've always assumed that ("MACtion" aside) football and big-time sports in general aren't as big a deal at a place like EMU. It's more of a commuter school than most Big Ten places (Minny aside) and students seem more laid-back about sports and more focused on their lives.
Would anyone from EMU care to comment on that?
I'd expect CMU students to be a little more into their teams, but maybe not as much as, say, U of Iowa.