November 17th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^
Everyone stand up, and say: "I'm Uncle T"
You know, Spartacus style.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^
“I farted”
“No I farted”
”we all farted”
guys, I’m not doing the Spartacus thing, I really did fart.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:12 PM ^
I’m da pappy.
November 17th, 2023 at 6:36 PM ^
No sir boss that my baby lol
November 17th, 2023 at 5:47 PM ^
Would the real Uncle T please stand up?
November 17th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^
Please stand up.
Please stand up.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^
I dont care anymore, the whole thing is just embarrassing.
Just beat Maryland, Ohio State, and win the B10 again.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:53 PM ^
Yes, please.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
This whole thing reminds me of the surprise surprise meme...
Embarrassing. We can't even cheat properly. And, we didn't need to cheat!!!
November 17th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
And Michigan didn't even cheat. That's the worst part.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:00 PM ^
This feels like a whole lot of McCarthyism in sports form!
November 17th, 2023 at 5:40 PM ^
And we're the ones with McCarthy. We're not even doing McCarthyism right.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^
This shit is mentally wearing on me, dude. This has zero bearing on my actual life but God dammit, I'm so tired of the constant negative news. The only cure for our ailment is big, fat, silencing W's. Win and it's loud background noise. Lose and be swallowed up by it.
I have faith in my Wolverines to do the former.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^
I just logged in after doing pre-winter yard work. I shouldn’t have. My life tonight would have been a lot better.
November 17th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^
My exact late-afternoon-into-evening. I enjoyed the yard work more than this.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
I tell you what. I cannot imagine how hard it has to be for these young men to focus. I wouldn't be surprised if Maryland gives us a game. If they are mentally ready for OSU ... I mean, I don't even know what to say if they manage that.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:09 PM ^
The way the last few days have gone, I wouldn't be shocked if we lose tomorrow. Keeping one's focus and positivity in the midst of all this nonsense would be a huge task for a mature adult, let alone 18-22 year olds.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:13 PM ^
They have Ben Herbert, we don't. Hopefully he can work his magic.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:43 PM ^
Maybe if Michigan turns it over and Maryland gives their best game. Maybe.
But the players are so busy with school and practice. They are no worse off mentally, physically, or spiritually over last week. There will be a lot of motivating speeches tonight and tomorrow.
It's really the fans that are so invested emotionally that it is driving us nuts.
On paper Michigan wins without issue.
November 17th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Honestly, there aren't that many mature adults around this whole process and I've been impressed by this team throughout it already. This doesn't seem like the type of team that craters against adversity. Also, Maryland really isn't that good of a football team.
Now, they may lose to OSU and I'm sort of preparing for that because the gap between the two teams isn't great, but there's way too much doom and gloom around here.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^
And the semi-final and final while you're at it. Thanks.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:03 PM ^
It’s really sad that Michigan can’t even have a real scandal or cheat in a way that they got some huge benefits from and they still have all of this drama attached. Teams are paying high school kids just to visit campus, using ped’s, channeling funds through “nil” to players, marginal academic requirements, etc and we dig a grave over cheeseburgers and and some nut job with a manifesto stealing signs that we really didn’t even need to win. I, like many others, just wanted Michigan to operate on the same playing field as others but I think we have witnessed time and time again that Michigan can’t do it. Stretchgate was another example of how we trip over our own two feet constantly.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:24 PM ^
I've said it before and I'll say it again, though I am certainly not the first one by any means. Michigan is Michigan's own worst enemy.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:22 PM ^
I’ll be working all weekend and i’m kinda glad. Get away from the noise online for a while.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^
I'm Negan.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Negan was partial to baseball.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
Lol. Yes he was.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
I'm Upvotin. So we meet on the field of battle, finally! Let the games begin. . .
November 17th, 2023 at 4:08 PM ^
Is Michigan Glenn?
November 17th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^
Sounds exactly like something Uncle T would say...
November 17th, 2023 at 3:49 PM ^
I'm glad for the Yahoo article above. It seems that Smith has done the one thing that actually makes sense: talk to Stalions himself.
The Booster-funded story is nothing, unless there's evidence.
I'm glad to have read his views on Stalions, however.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
I am extremely unclear on how the booster story is anything at all anyway. It's entirely legal for anyone to go give Connor Stalions money for any reason. Boosters paying players is against the amateurism rules, but Stalions isn't an amateur. He was drawing a salary.
Like, if Stalions walked straight up to a booster and said "Hey, I've got an illegal plan to steal other teams' signs, but I need ten grand to make it work" and the guy cuts him a check, I am super unclear on which NCAA or Big Ten rules would be broken in that scenario.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
This. What ACTUAL rules does this violate?
November 17th, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
This is the kind of morally addled homer thinking that takes whole countries to bad places. Stop, it's garbage. Maybe you're not an M grad, but I am. How the fuck do you think this translates to the wider world? There's so much of this poop here right now. Get some lives.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:16 PM ^
I don't know for sure whether Churchill actually said this, but:
Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?" Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"
Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”
My point: Michigan is (and has been, to degrees) in the dirt for a long time, though maybe not to a *great* degree. At this stage there's no shame in mixing it up with the expert cheaters. I'm referring mostly to OSU.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^
What does being a grad have to do with anything?
NEWSFLASH: UM has graduated some pretty fucking awful people.
College football is a cesspool. The moralizing on this issue means zilch as the sport is effectively legal organized crime.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:35 PM ^
Relax, it's sports.
I also have a UM degree and guess what? The whole thing is bullshit. One rogue low-level assistant who might have done something other teams do but in an extreme way that might be against the rules.
Right, we're QAnon on the road to another January 6th.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:57 PM ^
No, we're MAnon on the road to January 8th.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:42 PM ^
Agreed. We've got too many mouthbreathers here who contort themselves into pretzels trying to explain away something that was kinda sleazy, fairly buffoonish and pretty embarrassing even if it wasn't technically "illegal." It may not be a huge deal. But it's still a bad look.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
The only rule that was likely broken was the 11.6 bylaw against in-person scouting. None of the sign-stealing or video recording details are strictly relevant. There is a rule against recording your own games, but not other opponent's games. And as we all know, sign-stealing itself is legal. All 11.6 mentions is in-person scouting of future opponents, not recording or sign-stealing.
This whole issue is whether Stalions's scheme was an illegal method (in-person scouting) of a legal thing to do (sign-stealing). And the answer to that hinges on how you interpret 11.6, namely whether Stalions sending unaffiliated third-parties to future opponent's games counts as in-person scouting.
This booster payment scheme likely doesn't violate any NCAA rules in itself, but where the money was coming from is probably relevant to determining whether the scheme counts as in-person scouting. And it could violate some tax laws depending on much Uncle T was sending Stalions.
November 17th, 2023 at 5:32 PM ^
We need a judge and jury that don't give a shit about college football and have no biases and don't care what the public (read, sports media, MSU and OSU fans) generally thinks. They need to evaluate the Michigan situation against the rule book as it's written. I would bet a dollar that these impartial people would not view Michigan's "cheating" as a scandal of the century as the haters make it out to be. Not even close.
Michigan cleaned house and Harbaugh is sitting through the most important and toughest games of the season. We've paid our dues. This thing should be case closed.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^
Like most of this scandal, no one really bothers to ask 'so is this against the rules?'
Its just great message board fodder because it was a secret and now its not and since it was a secret, people assume its a scandal
November 17th, 2023 at 5:00 PM ^
This, this is the whole thing. Always has been. And arguably it was never even meant to be secret, except in the way that Michigan hopefully has a secret Fake Double Pass drawn up for Donovan Edwards to use against OSU.
If Stalions thought there was a chance in hell anyone would ever call this the worst scandal in the history of the Big Ten if they found out, wouldn't he have at least taken one more step and created a fake account name and used some prepaid Visa cards on StubHub?
November 17th, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^
It's not really much of a story, even if true. Think it just lends credence to the belief that no other staff were involved.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Sounds like the kind of guy who lives in a big, swanky house in New Jersey, has an unstable relationship at best with his wife and kids, goes to therapy to cope with his panic attacks, works in "waste management," and has a hot head, bottomed out, drug addict of a nephew.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:55 PM ^
"They say Connor Stalions had a vast network. People all over. But do they know that for sure? Cos they would have to get evidence together in one huge space. And obviously that's not possible even with computers. They got no proof. They got nothin."
November 17th, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^
“I’m just a fat crook from Jersey.” One of the great lines of all time.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
Yeah, I think he's Conor's uncle.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^
Here's where we are:
Left to right: Big Ten, UM, OSU
November 17th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
If always loved Curley the most, so funny but a very flawed man who got caught up in betting, women and alcohol. He was however so loved. His grave in small Jewish Cementary off the 710 in NW LA is something to visit, with lots of flowers, gifts etc. Now Go destroy Maryland, OSU, Iowa and any beyond that. I believe in the Team, their strengths, their focus, their Coaching and that the Team will be so pissed off.