Rutgers Snowflakes - The Coaching
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:06 AM ^
Harbaugh hasn't been able to figure out who the best QB is in-game since 2017. Glad the guys got a win, but I just hope it doesn't save his job. I cannot stand to watch this staff bumblefuck their way through another season.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:18 AM ^
That reason alone is why he and his gang need to go. He needs to start coaching and stop fing with their minds and skills.
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:51 AM ^
All aboard the Matt Campbell train after watching Iowa St. play today.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:13 AM ^
You're so stupid.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
Who pissed in your Cheerios?
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
Cogent, penetrating insight here. Thank you, Dutchman, for adding to the discussion in such a meaningful way.
You've certainly convinced many of us here that your point of view is the one that should prevail.
Dick.
November 22nd, 2020 at 5:35 PM ^
Matt Campbell has 27 losses in his few years as Iowa St. Head Coach.
Here are a few facts,
Last year USC fans were calling for Matt Rhule and Dave Aranda to be their HC,
They are a combined 4 - 12 this year in their new gigs.
a few years ago the hot names were Chip Kelly and Tom Herman they are a combined 38 -36 and that is at resource heavy UCLA and Texas.
The fact is, every program hires a "hot assistant" or the "hot group of 5" coach, and is somehow surprised when they get the same result as every other program. Some coaches have a good year or even a good few years. Rarely does the hot new coach end up the next Urban Meyer or Nick Saban.
It turns out if you want an Urban Meyer or Nick Saban you have to actually be willing to pay an insane sum and hire them.
FWIW, josh perry, one of Urban's most popular players at OSU indicated the other day that he thinks Urban is for sale atm, but he needs: 10-12m per year, a blank check for assistants, and total control of everything including overhauling and building new facilities. So you are looking at about a 200 million dollar purchase when it is all over.
If you want Urban Meyer results... that's the Urban Meyer price.
November 22nd, 2020 at 4:36 AM ^
Agreed, it is mystifying to me that they thought Milton is better than McNamara and McCaffrey and that's why Dylan said the hell with this crap and up and quit when it wouldn't have cost him any eligibility at all, that by itself should tell you a lot right there .
Milton has a strong arm obviously but quarterbacking is so much more than just that. Cade directed the guys, sped them up when he needed to, looked organized, threw quick and crisp and accurate passes and seemed to pump up everyone on the team.
How Harbaugh didn't start him just pisses me off, we would have put that game away early and cruised to victory. We scored 35 points from the 4 minute mark of the 2nd QT to the end of regulation, we would have scored over 50 points and given up something like 24 had Cade started.
Harbaugh's decision making is very concerning, he bugs the hell out of me.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
Paraphrasing someone I heard a while back, be sure to let us know when they award points on Saturday for how well they looked during the week in practice.
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:34 PM ^
Meyer said the qualities he looks for most in a QB, are toughness, intelligence, competitive spirit, leadership and the ability to extend plays. He said you can have all the talent in the world but it means nothing without those qualities.
I like Milton. I think he's a great teammate. I love that he was cheering for McNamara (remember Forcier?) after he was pulled. I don't know about his other qualities but we know that leadership was always an issue.
I'm just not sure he has the required non-measurables that Cade seems to have.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:48 AM ^
If Cade was picked from the get go before the season, we beat MSU and have a chance against Indiana.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:06 AM ^
No win has ever felt so much like a loss.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:12 AM ^
BRING ON PENN STATE, I SAY!!
Ive never felt so mildly confident that Michigan can beat a team that hasn’t won a game yet!!
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:57 AM ^
Unfortunately penn state has lost because other teams are scoring on turnovers.. our defense cannot force any turnovers so its gonna be a shootout at best.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:13 AM ^
Unfortunately penn state has lost because other teams are scoring on turnovers.. our defense cannot force any turnovers so its gonna be a shootout at best.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:13 AM ^
The 67-65 game against Illinois was “hold my beer”
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:14 AM ^
Were you not watching the Army game last year? Or M00N? Or Akron? There have been worse victories in the last 20 years.
I would argue that this victory gives some hope: the team was down 0-17 with no indication of competitiveness and injuries further worsening things. Cade came in a brought a spark - he didn't get us back in the game by himself, but the offense was no longer moribund. The offense and defense both rallied and earned this win... and the confidence it entails.
This doesn't mean we avoid a losing season. The team still has problems and this is still Rutgers (albeit perhaps the best or so Rutgers since they joined the big ten). But, this feels like they're starting to turn things around. An important step.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:19 AM ^
I’m happy that the guys got a win, but I don’t really see this as a positive step. This coaching staff basically set the season on fire the previous 3 games, and now that they beat up on some JV team we are going to conclude that this team found their rhythm? No chance.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:22 AM ^
You have to see this as a positive on offense at least. The team looked dead and uninterested while Milton was playing QB. They played harder and looked like a functional college offense for the first time all season, really, with Cade in there. That was certainly positive.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:32 AM ^
Functional college offense? First time all season? This board and yours truly were giddy after Minnesota.
November 22nd, 2020 at 10:09 AM ^
Yes, we were all giddy and thought we had our qb for the season and next. I enjoyed watching the offense when Cade came in, but I'm a bit leery given what we thought after the first game.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:46 AM ^
You're missing the point, this is about coaching. The fact that the coaching staff couldn't identify the best QB, irrespective of the result tonight, is reason enough to be discouraged.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:31 AM ^
You need to look a bit deeper into what's been happening - especially on the offense. Part of the reason for the lack of rhythm was that there was not much consistency in execution. The play calling did not really change much from game to game this season (including today), but Cade was an improvement in completions and sheer pocket awareness (look how he was able to check down and otherwise avoid negative plays). Milton seems a good player and team leader, but he doesn't seem to have these aspects down as well.
You could see how the team's attitude and body language changed over the game - and for the better. As I've already said, it may be too late to save a winning season, but it's not too late to salvage the team.
Besides, would you rather have them just up and quit because of the losses so far? What kind of lesson does that impact to the players wrt to sports and life in general?
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
The entire reason why Cade succeeds is his awareness. He is a short, slow, weak armed kid who is a damn good football player who has some fire in him. He throws an accurate, catchable ball on both short and deep throws. He will throw some ints against good team because his velocity is weak. He sees blitzes, he sees coverage, he is not afraid to let to try and make plays..love what he has shown. It's criminal he will never have a career here that he should have, because the coaches are garbage. He might be allowed to finish the 3 games left this year but after that they will just give the job to JJ next year because of his physical ability.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:44 AM ^
Not with this defense anyway.
November 22nd, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
2014 Rutgers was much better than 2020. Not even close. Check your facts.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:14 AM ^
The 67-65 game against Illinois was “hold my beer”
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^
2010 Illinois says hai
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:45 AM ^
Remember UMass? Or Akron?
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^
I do. UM 42, UM (NTUM) 37.
November 22nd, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
Akron 2013 definitely felt more like a loss. At least Rutgers you can spin has a decent coach now and some year 1 energy, Akron was awful
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:07 AM ^
Not last in the east!!!
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:07 AM ^
This feels a whole lot like 2010 rich rod and the 6(?) overtime IL game...
not good man...not good
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 AM ^
The difference is that the Illinois 2010 game was two teams that were at their effective upper limit (which was not good) just trying to outlast each other.
Today, UM was in full gear to lose to Rutgers (and badly)... but then improved. If Cade had started today, we probably win in regulation easily. Had Cade started the season... at least we probably beat MSU and maybe Indiana.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:47 AM ^
That is not a positive. The staff has already flushed part of the season down the toilet because they can't evaluate who should start just like last year.
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:00 PM ^
while you may be right, this was not exactly the play of a top 25 team after Cade came in. The team still looked bad compared to what we expect every year, even a down year.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
This feels a whole lot like 2010 rich rod and the 6(?) overtime IL game...
not good man...not good
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 AM ^
I get it. I get it. Not good.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
Rutgers sucked 4 years ago. They're sucked every year since. 4 years ago Michigan beat them 78-0. We just had to fight for our lives to win tonight. What the fuck happened in 4 years?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:26 AM ^
Harbaugh has to use his own recruits now
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:44 AM ^
Rekt.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:30 AM ^
1. Veteran team with depth in 2016; very young team and no depth in 2020
2. DL absolutely mauled their OL in 2016; not tonight
3. Peppers changed the game in one play (UM offense did nothing in 1st Q) and sparked the O.
4. Speight was Cade with multiple short fields.
Harbaugh should certainly have the roster and system in place by now so 1 and 2 are equal.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:50 AM ^
What happened is that Schiano is a slightly better college coach. They are both Cro magnon.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
What a disgrace that it took 3 OT and a missed field goal to come away with a victory from a team with 5 Big ten caliber players. All this does is prove that a coaching change is immediate.
November 22nd, 2020 at 3:22 AM ^
*3 missed FG
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
Nothing about this game changes the fact that Harbaugh is not making the right decisions, both from a coaching and personnel standpoint. Nothing about this game changes the fact that he needs to move on. Nothing. Glad Cade performed like a real QB. Still, too little, too late for JH.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:09 AM ^
Harbaugh needs to go pretty confident I can copy & paste this every week.
Highly doubt we'll win any other games this year...how does this coaching staff cash their checks with the product, or lack thereof, they are putting out?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:09 AM ^
My “favorite” call was Cade up the middle on 3rd and 3 in the first overtime. ?♂️
Also, under center maybe when you have two cracks at the goal line from the 1? IDK, just seems like shotgun and getting the ball 2-3 yards back is just making it tougher on yourself.