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|2 weeks 5 days ago||On most of the bodybuilding||
On most of the bodybuilding forums I go to they reign it in by using amount of time as a member and post count. Forget points that doesn't do anything. And I can tell you on the bbing forums if you don't keep it semi civil the shit gets out of control (violent, gay 4 pay, drug dealing, etc.) far beyond people being offended by a username lol.
You can create a new thread with:
100 Total posts
must be a member for 6 months
That completely eliminates trolls starting new threads and while the trolls could just post like crazy they would either get banned for stupd repetitive posts or not want to wait around for 6 months to make a thread.
This is overwhelming successful on many boards.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Anyone else shocked this has||
Anyone else shocked this has somehow remained unknown this close to him actually starting class? At this point just with the whole enrollment process there must be multiple people who know where he is or is not going. I'm sort of amazed this has been able to be so secretive at this point I was thinking one way or another we'd sort of know by now.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Well worst case even if||
Well worst case even if speight earns the job and open competition between those three can only help.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||While I'm not predicting they||
While I'm not predicting they are this years Alabama I got no problems with that roster! Yes there are some issues but all teams have issues. Three teams in the CFP have MAJOR issues. Hell the big ten winner had gaping issues that would make aurora snow blush.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Honestly these games kind of||
Honestly these games kind of suck balls. There are like 10 people watching in the stadium and they feel like spring practice scrimmages. There has just been magic sucked out of these bowl games the last few years.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I think some of you are||
I think some of you are forgetting some of the pre-season predictions. I get it right now everyone thinks this team missed an opportunity but his was my pre-season review and it matched up with many of yours.
My Record Prediction: 9-3 losses to psu or wisky, Iowa, and osu
Overall I think this will be a slightly better version of recent LSU teams. Freaky good defense but an offense that is just not good. Harbaugh will help cover up the deficiencies.
Sure guys we had some of you that pick UM to go 12-0 every year but a whole lot of us were shocked at the preseason ranking. Many of you are just remaking history.
Frankly I always thought '17 would be a better team than '16.
I'll be much more disappointed if next years team isn't better than this one. As we can see though some serious issues to address. Part of my prediction was on having a stud qb situation next year.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I was very impressed with Met||
I was very impressed with Met last night. A few whiffs but they were mental not due to athleticism. I think he is going to be really good.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Anyone else encouraged by||
Anyone else encouraged by metellus? He had some whiffs but his overall athleticism looks great. Really think he is going to be quite good the next years.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||fitting ending....it is all||
fitting ending....it is all on the defense now! What a chance to put a nail in this effing thing.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I've been on this board a||
I've been on this board a very long time (well before I created my username) and I think the only thing missing is a true "forum section" with various headers i.e. Michigan Football, Michigan basketball, recruiting and then make an off topic section where you can create a thread on hamster masturbation and transgender cats if you'd like.
Been on here reading forever it's my home away from home but always wondered why there is not a traditional forum section.
OP: thanks for posting. Terribly sad but inspiring story.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||is it just me or is this the||
is it just me or is this the most stonefaced group of top ranked recruits we've ever seen? I mean damn at 18 years old I would have been spilling the beans and gossiping about where I was going. A lot of these top guys are not tipping their hats in any direction.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Honestly that would be worse.||
Honestly that would be worse. If you have to come out and say it you have at least thought about it or considered it to some degree...even if minimal. He should say nothing and just keep doing his job.
We knew when Harbaugh took this job he woudl be top of the list every year as an NFL target. Every year that will be the case. It would get old, and weird, and create more rumors if every year he came out and had to declare he is staying.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||You know it's tough to say.||
I could be wrong but doesn' he only coach WR's?
Anyway...It's been a weird couple years. I mean this year you had senrior WR/TE combo but also breaking in a new QB next year you have new guys at those positions but a seasoned qb who shoudl be taking a step forward. For some of the missed balls I think it was a combination of qb errors and wr errors. Certianly, there were drops we didn't expect but also a ton of missed deep balls.
If we had the same combo next year with Speight on his second year starting I'd expect a 2500 yard season from the WR/TE combo. I think this year was around 1700 total and that is with a ton of yards left on the field, one game with o korn, and some halfs where UM wasn't even throwing.
So...this is a long winded way of me saying...not sure and leaning towards "I don't think so".
|6 weeks 2 days ago||agree...but that's why I||
agree...but that's why I don't think any of us expect 11-1 or 12-0 and playoff/osu results...but we are also past the point we have to expect 8-4 and the need to hide all season. No reason this team with the talent that has been brought in shouldn't expect a 10 win season and that should be the floor.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||the flip side to that is we,||
the flip side to that is we, as UM fans, have found reasons year after year to justify underperforming. I know everyone now is saying "this was the year brahs" but if you look at some old threads there was a whole lot of talk about unproven quarterbacks and taking a step backward due to breaking in a new qb and the uncertainty around that, lack of game changing running backs, concern that even with Butt and two senior receivers UM would not have a good enough qb or o-line to get them the ball and a whole lot of..."you know the defense has two game breakers (peppers and lewis) but features a lot of old but mediocre talent and not that elite level talent of osu and other elite teams." I mean hell it was four(ish) weeks ago this board was lighting up with "this defense is overrated, the linebackers are slow, the d-line isn't as good against the run as we thought, this entire team isn't full of elite talent like we thought"
So now you have younger guys with elite talent. I think that lends itself to mistakes and mental errors to start but an overall rise of talent and ability.
I'm as pessimistic as they come I figured 9-3 this year due to the qb situation.
This whole conversation reminds me very much of a work situaiton I have right now. You have some older people who are very good at their jobs in certain roles, steady, and have become abover average to supreme performers in some ways and it's always good to have some of them around. BUT...I also need to infuse some elite talent. Not highly touted, not award winning, now really good...I mean elite level talent. I know one I hired is going to make some "freshman mistakes" but I also know what is between his ears is elite. You can't teach it, you can't earn it so as he grows his ceiling is beyond what was their before. It may be an initial step back in some ways but in others he is so elite it will make up for it right away. Gary or Ambry Thomas are good examples. They are elite talent beyond what this team has right now. They are going to make mistakes and not be as good as the current seniors at times...but both their ceilings are higher than who they are replacing.
Not apples to apples but you get what I'm saying.
For the record I'm actually quite pessimistic and contrary to my post I don't disagree with you that much in many ways. Hell i picked 9-3 this year and had a post similar to yours last year lol.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Don't despair there is a||
Don't despair there is a growing number of us! I will be extremely disappointed if this offense doesn't take a huge step forward.
QB= Speight shoudl be a game changing QB next year. Was one of the better ones in the big ten this year and should be ready for a huge second year leap
RB= I expect another step forward. I predict next year will be the first year in many this is a "game breaker" position for UM. I'm talking about wathing a team and seeing guys break off for 60 yard runs. Evans, Higdon, Walker....oh my!
O-line= There are concerns...no doubt. I expect even with this year but more upside as some younger guys with higher ceilings play
TE and WR Combo: I think D, C and Butt had 1700 yards and what 12-15 touchdowns or so? That isn't nothing so we shoudln't play it off like it is but UM has some real talent and with the qb taking what I believe to be a huge step forward I actually don't expect much dropoff.
DEFENSE: Let's not get it twisted UM will lose the best lockdown corner in the country and depth on the d-line. I actually think the starting d-line will be in line with this years but someone is going to have to step up to provide that depth. I actually also think lineback will be ok. I do worry about replacing Lewis. I think we have the talent but there is going to be some "lapses" to start the year.
The schedule is tough I mean in Dallas verse florida, @ psu, @ wisconsin, a tough tosu team at home and msu is always tough.That said even a pessimist like me can see the talent pipeline is legit. Part of what Harbaugh is paid for are these expectations. I expect double digit wins every year and beyond that is where there will be some flexibilty year to year.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Agree here...he is going to||
Agree here...he is going to "grow into his body" I would imagine this offseason. He is obviously already huge but there is a physical maturaity that takes place those first couple years post high school and I bet we see that from Gary this year.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Wilton Speight He had a||
He had a REALLY nice year this year but I'm expecting a triumph next year from him. It's time and I think he has the talent and certainly the coaching to make that leap to an absolute game changing quarterback next year.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||It's because we are not used||
It's because we are not used to having talent in the cupboard. The past 20 years has almost felt like suck, suck suck, suck, "lightning in a bottle year", suck, suck, suck, "lightining in a bottle year".
UM is not that anymore. Harbaugh has brought in incredible talent and the floor for michigan football is now much higher than it has been the last two decades.
|7 weeks 31 min ago||I'm with you on that. On ESPN||
I'm with you on that. On ESPN they interviewed the players and they seemed a little down too which is expected. This all just happened and it's going to be a couple weeks until I am really amped up for one.
Once I see some more positive recruiting news it will get me more excited as UM will have the chance to beat big name FSU, finish 11-2 in front a hugely watched audience and really put a stamp on this year.
Right now though...I'm with ya buddy!
|7 weeks 33 min ago||No doubt I agree. I just mean||
No doubt I agree. I just mean historically you see some teams that are "just out" look a little uninspired in bowl games. Heck when you see the UM guys from the '06 team interviewed it feels like that was part of the issue against USC (amongst others...ie a home game for usc, going cross country, that usc team being pretty damn good, etc). I don't have as much concern because of how competitive Harbaugh is.
I ask because my neighbor is a FSU grad and that is the first thing he said about FSU. Literally "the verdict on Jimbo is he can't get his teams up if they are not still in the hunt". Of course Harbaugh > Jimbo by a country mile so there is that.
|7 weeks 39 min ago||lol while I'm enjoying the||
lol while I'm enjoying the exchange I do think there is some merit to what his dudeness is saying in that sometimes, historically speaking, we see teams that are "just out" lay an egg in bowl games. In fact this is what many on the FSU side say about their team under Jimbo. The rub on him is if the team is out of the mix they don't play inspired.
In fact watching some of the interviews with former tosu and UM players from the '06 team you even get that sort of vibe after "THE GAME" ended and both teams got their asses handed to them. Sure maybe USC was just better but when you see those guys interviewed it really soudns liek they didn't give two shits about being there.
Harbough though....that man seems to compete for everything all the time and I think his team has that attitude also.
|7 weeks 57 min ago||Totally agree with this. It||
Totally agree with this. It will be hard but if UM can shut down that run game and put them in longer passing downs I think UM can have a party in the backfield.
LIke you, I"m interested in the offensive scoring and how the offense looks. Obiviously, the vets will be here still to play (butt, darbough, etc) but Harbaugh also seems like he likes to get the young guys who will be next years stars in and going in bowl games. I'm curious and hopeful if we see guys like mcdoom and evans really play huge part in this game.
|7 weeks 1 hour ago||Anyone else concerned both||
Anyone else concerned both team just lay eggs and UM looks like they did in the Iowa game? FSU is probably somewhat likely to do that seems if they are not "in the hunt" they play pretty unispried ball ball Jimbo. I'm hopeful Harbaugh, being the coach he is, has UM ready to rock.
I was impressed how UM came out last year against UF and hopeful we see that again. A lot of these guys are also fighting for draft spots on the defensive side so would think they'd be ready to ball.
|7 weeks 20 hours ago||I know you are getting||
I know you are getting blasted but I see your overarching point. That doesn't happen overnight though. I mean if the browns start yelling "yeah guys we demand more!" nothing is going to happen. You have to have prosduct on the field then expectations rise and those two things feed off each other.
Example: before this year I thought UM would go 9-3 to 10-2 mostly due to what I saw as a huge quarterback issue.
Now...just three months later I'm pissed they are 10-2. I EXPECT 10-2 at worst next year and ten wins every year.
The team will continue to get better and expectations will rise and those two things will continue to feed each other.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I also think we are being a||
I also think we are being a bit down on UM's class for no good reason. I certainly expect this class to be top 4-6 and as long as you are hanging in that top 5ish every year odds are you have top 5 talent. As long as Michigan is in the mix in the top 5 I would not expect a talent gap.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Thank God someone else around||
Thank God someone else around here has my mindset on this. Next year's UM team isn't goiing to be 2007 USC but don't sleep on 'em! A few key areas determine a lot and cover up areas that may be suspect...
1. Excellent quarterback play: This elevates the entire team and covers up a lot. I expect Speight to be a legit big time guy next year
2. D-line play: D-line will kick ass next year. Not as deep so someone needs to step up but starting talent almost as good as this year
3 O-line play: Admittedly a concern
I expect Michigan to be elite in #1 and #2 above. WIll we miss our two stud wr's and jake butt? Hell yeah...but excellent qb play and some young talent will make up for it. Not to mention some playmakers liek mcdoom and evans who are really setup for breakout years next year.
I'm a pessimist about Michigan football but I'm incredibly optimistic about a solid 10-2 season next year and in the hunt for a big ten title and playoff spot.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||D-line depth (but not||
D-line depth (but not talent!) and O-line overall ability are my two concerns. Other than that my friend that is a stacked ass roster.
The d-line will be thinner but this was a historically deep d-line...you don't get "historic" things year after year. Next year's d-line shoudl be every bit as awesome though if some people step up to help with depth.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I don't actually disagree||
I don't actually disagree with what you said. But there are also additions to next year and the biggest is what should be a game breaking, all world quarterback. I had not thought of this being "the year" because I thought the struggles at qb would be too much with a first year guy. I would except a leap forward next year at qb and on offense all around.
I can't argue with the defense but with the talent UM has I think "step back" shoudl be an overall #2 defense to an overall 8-12 defense. A step back for sure...but still a top defense.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I'm as "doom and gloom" as||
I'm as "doom and gloom" as they come but it's time to start thinking like a legit program again. There will be struggles with some new and younger player but that is without a doubt a top 10 team.
I hate the talk of "the year". That often does not work out as planned. I live in columbus and when they won the NC a few years back the response was "we don't even have to enjoy this because next year is "the year" and we will cruise to a NC". They didn't even make the big ten championship last year...
I'll be pissed if the offense isn't better next year. The defense will have some ups and downs but I also believe that has the talent to be a top 5-10 defense. Due to the crap we've been through we are all super pessimists and I get it...but Michigan is back and let's recognize the areas of concern but expect that we are in the hunt every year.
I'm extremely encouraged but what I see from a roster standpoint for next year.