OT: Rumors of Mass Transfers from USC
This is coming from r/cfb whose sources are a couple posts from a USC board, but it sounds like the transfer talk is legit.
Allegedely OL EJ Price punched head coach Clay Helton and is transferring to Georgia. The post also mentions a number of other players that plan to transfer:
- Freshman Safety Jamel Cook
- Junior OT Chuma Edoga
- Junior QB Max Browne
The post also mentions Adoree Jackson and Juju Smith however I am not sure if those would be transfers as they are probably NFL-ready.
Apparently Helton will address the situation today but if there are lots of transfers, this can't be a good look to recruits.
September 20th, 2016 at 2:33 PM ^
Sounds more apropo for Notre Dame.
September 20th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^
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Thanks, I updated the title.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
... during the Charlie Weis era.
September 20th, 2016 at 7:50 PM ^
Subtle, yet so savage
September 20th, 2016 at 5:44 PM ^
to call the final game between them this year "the Toilet Bowl"? Man that rivalry has been in the gutter lately (ND/USC)
September 20th, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^
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September 20th, 2016 at 2:43 PM ^
since there are multiple candidates, there are many problems at the moment with the team.
September 20th, 2016 at 6:27 PM ^
It shouldn't have happened, but I can't sit here and act like it was the worst thing ever. He was getting pulled by the ref and basically did a "GET THE FUCK OFF ME, MAN!"
Should've gotten tossed, you just can't do it. But let's not act like he went Chris Childs on Kobe.
September 20th, 2016 at 8:30 PM ^
September 21st, 2016 at 7:26 AM ^
+1 for using shit nozzle.
September 20th, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^
is part of the reason I think that Bama may be a touch overrated at this point during the season, not necessarily in terms of where they are ranked but in terms of presumed invincibility. I think USC was a flaming mess when they played Bama.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^
Agreed, but I don't know who or when someone is actually going to test Alabama. Ole Mis certainly isn't good and didn't answer any questions for me either, but after that....um...at Arkansas on 10/8 maybe? Maybe Texas A&M at home on 10/22?
That's it. That's all of the tough competition left on their schedule. Tennessee is trash, LSU is trash, and the rest is cupcakes. Don't see anyone in the SEC East testing them in the SEC Champ game either (unless Florida turns into a good team).
Likely won't know anything about Alabama until the playoff.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
they probably will run the table. I could see LSU possibly getting their head out of their ass to make that a game though. That might be the only threat.
September 20th, 2016 at 5:12 PM ^
Their defense is too good. They could slip past Bama with a few breaks.
September 20th, 2016 at 5:39 PM ^
While none of these teams are elite, they have a tough stretch @Ark, @Tenn, TA&M, @LSU. But even if they lose one of those, a one-loss SEC champ would make the playoff, period. So it'd come down to UF, UGA or a rematch with Tenn in the SEC title game anyway. The good thing is, the B1G ten performed well enough in non-conf that a one-loss B1G champ is going to the playoff too. So it's not like a B1G ten team would have to make the case over a one-loss SEC champ. They'll both be there. Big 12 almost certainly won't.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:58 PM ^
You can just leave this here for the rest of Sabans days. They get a mulligan to the playoff which no other team has. Tennessee would be behind bama if Bama lost to them and another team the week before.
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September 20th, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^
lol what if they hire Hoke as their next head coach?
September 20th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^
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September 20th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^
About that....
"Winning is just a statistic," "Well we practiced good".... comes to mind.
As I recall, one of the big criticisms of Hoke is that he didn't do enough to make men of his players but instead coddled them.
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September 20th, 2016 at 3:38 PM ^
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September 20th, 2016 at 3:44 PM ^
Is that Frank Clark I see waving in the background?
I don't say that as a shot at Hoke, I think all college coaches are going to end up with their share of problems, but rather that you're basing a lot of that comparison on rumors and innuendo at USC, while making it seem like Hoke never had a problem with any of his players.
I don't think it's right to look at these specific set of problems apparently happening at USC and saying "they have their own Hoke," but on the other hand, if one was trying to say simply that a season in progress is unravelling at a frightening pace at USC, the comparisson isn't terrible.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:32 PM ^
Hoke did have a very high graduation rate, as evidenced by our much-improved APR. We can say with a fair amount of confidence that Clark's personal saga was not very representative of how most of his players turned out.
September 20th, 2016 at 5:07 PM ^
That's all fine and true and Hoke mustly upheld the expectation we all have for Michigan football players off the field. My point was just that the comment made that it looks like USC already has their own Hoke could easily have been simply a statement about how they look to be unravelling and not playing good football, something that is very similar to Hoke's last year. Others jumped on that comment and made it seem like Hoke only ever coached angels and had no problems on his teams, so the situations can't possibly be the same. This is not only a bit hyperbolic but also reads into the original comment an intent that may have not been there.
September 20th, 2016 at 7:10 PM ^
September 20th, 2016 at 8:03 PM ^
How did Hoke's team unravel in his last year? Maybe we have different definitions. They simply weren't good, but I don't remember a bunch of shit like this at USC happening. The only thing that unraveled was our recruiting.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:13 PM ^
September 20th, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^
Hoke certainly had shortcomings, but to imply that the attitude his players had toward him at Michigan came anywhere close to the apparent situation at USC seems patently unfair.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:51 PM ^
I have always said I believe the Hoke did 50% of his job exceptionally, it was the other 50% that I was not happy about.
You will not find very many former players or coaches that will say something negative about Hoke. He just wasnt a good head football coach.
September 20th, 2016 at 6:38 PM ^
Most reasonable fans won't destroy him either. They just don't think he's fit to be a head coach at a big time school like Michigan.
It's not like Rich Rod where some people despised him from day 1 and still don't like him (for whatever the reason).
Hoke seemed like a guy most folks would like to have around...just not in any imporant capacity, lol. Maybe as a storyteller or something. He can be team curator.
I joke, but in all...he was likeable for most. Did not need to be head coach any longer and that entire staff needed an overhaul outside of Mattison who was the only coach who'd really proven anything in the past 5-10 years.
We all see where the program as a whole was and where it is now. Makes you scratch your head a little bit, but whatever, onward.
September 21st, 2016 at 12:17 AM ^
Hoke was a fine football head coach. The record he had while in tenure had far more to do with his offensive staff. Funk and Borges were the downfall. I really think them two were pricks and hated life. Nussmeir didn't have the guns or time to come into that situation and right the ship. Hell, look at what this staff is still trying to correct with their former players and this is staff is top notch.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:03 PM ^
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September 20th, 2016 at 3:23 PM ^
Derp
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September 20th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
Weeeeell...he just didn't execute.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
What does Hoke have to do with any of this?
September 20th, 2016 at 3:44 PM ^
I want to know who is upvoting it?
September 20th, 2016 at 5:31 PM ^
People who struggle to live in the now.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:44 PM ^
Wonder if Drevno would get a look.
September 20th, 2016 at 3:48 PM ^
Given the current mess, I can only imagine they're going to want someone with head coaching experience.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:07 PM ^
Pete Carroll and he wasn't their first or second choice. Everyone else has been a reach. They have a terrible track record and there's no mystery why. They keep hiring unqualified former players as their AD.
They're a CFB blue blood in a tremendous recruiting area. Recruiting has not been their problem in recent years even with the turmoil. They should be one of the top destinations for coaches, but I think it's unlikely that Lynn Swann can or will hire one at their level.
September 20th, 2016 at 5:53 PM ^
but other than Carroll (who like you said wasn't high on their list initially) you probably have to go all the back to when John Robinson took over for McKay.
September 20th, 2016 at 8:33 PM ^
If I were them, I would have made a huge push for Chip Kelly last year before going to Helton. I don't think Chip will ever find great success in the NFL, but he would have been a fantastic fit for SC, and probably would have quickly brought them back as a powerhouse.
September 20th, 2016 at 9:31 PM ^
Kind of like Brandon, he could only get someone who would put up with him.
September 20th, 2016 at 11:06 PM ^
September 20th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^
Drevno would seem to be the kind of hire they've been making for much of the last 20 years. They should go for a guy with a proven record as a head coach.
September 20th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
September 20th, 2016 at 9:04 PM ^
That's not even close to being true. From a personal character standpoint, Hoke is everything you'd want in a head coach.
Orgeron might be one of the best DL coaches in college football history but he's also a lunatic who rips off his shirt and challenges his own players to a fight just to prove who's a bigger badass. He's got other shit in his past that's unsavory too.
September 20th, 2016 at 5:03 PM ^
is going to be at the top of the ADs list of coaches to look at. He'd have a ton of access to talent and his offenses would attract a ton of the California talent to come play for him.
I'm sure some SEC teams will make a run at him as well, but USC is as good a landing spot for him as any.