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G. Gulo of the Dale
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|3 days 7 hours ago||TEMPO!!!||
|1 week 4 days ago||Very slight correction...||
I think you're counting Ball State's 2008 GMAC bowl appearance, which they lost, but Hoke had already left to take the job at SDSU.
|1 week 4 days ago||I certainly not going to argue...||
... that Hoke's Michigan teams have played well on the road. While most college teams play worse on the road, we've had our share of head-scratching disappointments. Still, I'm not ready to draw a conclusion about his ability to win big games from his "entire career," because I think the data prior to Michigan is not very helpful. And, as this data pertains to his ability to win on the road, I think it's unhelpful because, when you are coaching in a lower-tier conference, you almost always play your best opponents on the road. In 2007, Hoke's Ball St. team had a slightly better record on the road (4-3), and all of their losses came at the hands of Big Ten teams--including the relatively famous near-miss (41-40) at Nebraska.
Hoke's record prior to UM suggests that he wasn't at, say, Meyer's level--which is exceedingly rarified territory. On the other hand, Youngstown St. wasn't magically transformed when Tressel began coaching and was still 4-7 his third year. Maybe, if Hoke had stayed at Ball St., and had two more years in which his team won double-digit games, we might think more highly of him (but maybe the success of his final year wouldn't have continued).
Anyway, I'll simply add that I don't think we were "bailed out" in last year's Notre Dame game. We played like the better team, and won by 11--despite Gardner's disastrous pick-six.
None of this changes the fact that Michigan needs to show improvement throughout this season, and Hoke needs more marquee victories.
|1 week 5 days ago||Sure.||
I don't disagree with you. But I was simply responding to the claim that really good coaches don't lose games by thirty points. Like you, I don't think Hoke has had an "elite" win--although I don't think he had many realistic opportunities for an "elite" win prior to coming to Michigan (you're then entitled to say that's a case for not hiring him). I suspect that his best win is the 2011 victory over Nebraska--who was not an "elite" team but was a top-25 team--and we beat them 45-17.
Just out of curiousity, what games that he's coached at Michigan would have counted as elite wins (genuine question)? I'd say Alabama (2012), OSU (2012), MSU (2013), and OSU (2013). Perhaps South Carolina--but if we beat them then they end up dropping in the polls and aren't that different than beating Nebraska. I guess you could also say ND (2012), given how they finished, although they didn't feel "elite" to me while we were playing them--they felt more or less similar to the team we beat the year before and the year after. To be honest, OSU's 2012 team didn't impress me much more than the 2011 team that got healthier at the end of the year under Fickell, although beating the 2012 team on the road still would have been a huge victory.
|1 week 5 days ago||Since you asked...||
"What elite coach loses a game like that 31-0? When have you ever seen Tressel, Saban, or Urbs lose a game to a rival like that? Never."
I'm not taking sides here, but see Space Coyote's post from yesterday: http://mgoblog.com:8080/content/mailbag-all-coach-dissatisfaction-you-ca....
I'll excerpt part of it for convenience:
"Urban Meyer lost 31-3 to Alabama. Urban Meyer lost 31-6 (never scored a TD) to Alabama in his 6th year. Urban Meyer lost 31-7 to FSU in his 6th year. ..."
"Nick Saban lost 41-9 to Florida. He lost 44-15 at home his second year. Nick Saban lost 26-8 @ VT, 31-7 @ Auburn, 31-0 @ Bama in his third year at LSU. Nick Saban lost 45-16 his fifth year at LSU."
We can of course debate whether ND is as good as any of the above teams that beat Meyer and Saban, but there's some context.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Nailed it.||
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm going to assume...||
... one of them is USC?
Probably couldn't come up with the second without looking.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||+1 Insightful.||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Absolutely true.||
I was simply making the observation that the poster in question (in all likelihood) meant to use the expression "cheer lustily" (i.e., "vigorously"). Even "lustily" can imply "sexual lust," although this denotation is more remote within the "semantic field" of "lustily" and more proximate within the semantic field of "lustfully."
I don't know why I just wrote any of this on a sports blog--except that it's a Michigan sports blog (fergodsakes).
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I've never played the role of "diction nazi" before...||
... and you're one of my favorite posters, but I need to insist that you not cheer "lustfully" for OSU to lose. Unless, Ohio State losing is actually a sexual thing for you. ;-)
Anyway, "God willing," I'll be with you in 2022 cheering lustily against the Buckeyes.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I generally agree...||
... I will say, however, that the Kalis situation is especially vexing, not simply because of his high recruiting ranking but because, from what I recall, the "already college-ready" tag was being attached to him when he was in high school. Obviously, the OL position has a steep learning curve, but given more general worries about player development on the OL, Kalis is a bit more of a potential red flag; as has been stated, his problem could be more of a mental/learning issue, which could be reconcilable with him consistently pancaking opposing high school players and showing solid technique in more limited schemes. Moreover, to state the obvious, we really need him, in particular, to live up to his initial billing--at least for the present season. It's a little easier to shrug off, say, Dymonte's apparently slower-than-expected progress, since other (sometimes less touted) players are picking up the slack. I suspect your "whether they move the ball" is pointing in this direction.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Message for Brandon:||
|6 weeks 4 days ago||No problem...||
... and thanks for taking my comment as the light-hearted ribbing that it was meant to be.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||He aims to bring much needed discipline...||
Players will be abiding by the mantra, "It's Tim's way or the Hardway."
I mean, I'm assuming he did legally change his last name just for the sake of this cheap motivational tactic, right?
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, for goodness sakes...||
... please take my upvote.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Because that team had different coordinators?||
But seriously--well, that was partly serious--you have to put the games in which the team looked its worst (Akron and UConn) alongside the games in which they looked their best (ND, OSU, Central, Minnesota). If UM didn't look as good as a top 35 team in the games you mentioned, I'd argue that they looked better than no. 55 in eight of them, and they looked like a top 20 team in four of those eight. In the end, neither the Akron nor the ND games were fair representations of this team (and yet, to some extent, were fair) since both games were extremes for a team that was characterized by being wildly inconsistent. I don't think the o-line can take much of a step back this year, even though I'm not wildly optimistic about them making much of a jump forward. As has been said ad naseum, I'm expecting fewer plays ending in negative yardage... although I doubt we'll be an above-average running team.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||That's fine, but...||
... Just to be clear, there are only 126 FBS teams, so our being in the 50s would require that you assume we'll play even worse than we did last year. If we're talking about teams that were in the 50s at the end of last season, we're probably talking about someone like an Arkansas State, a Pittsburgh, or a Buffalo. Our deficiencies notwithstanding, I can't quite see the logic of a team with our coordinators and our talent--even if in some places still young--being ranked that low.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||DD?||
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Schizophrenia...||
... Is a treatable illness.
(Just giving you a hard time about the misplaced comment.)
|8 weeks 5 hours ago||As did Henry Poggi...||
... USC, Auburn, OSU, ND, Florida, etc., ... and, of course, Bama--which was the source of much panicking.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Good News.||
And good first post. +1 to you, sir.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Interestingly...||
While the game is Michigan's opener, it's actually being considered an exhibition for Hillsdale: the "you can beat me up if you don't actually count this as a loss for us" principle. Hillsdale has some size but they don't tend to employ it offensively, and they aren't overly athletic. During the Coach Tharp years they seem to have moved towards recruiting guys that can stretch the floor, and they rely heavily on ball rotation and jump shooting; like all such teams, they can look great when they are knocking them down. They penetrate almost exclusively as a means of setting up a jumper, and they rarely post up. Expect a lot of hustle and three pointers.
Also, Hillsdale played IU and MSU in similar circumstances the last two years. I believe they played MSU to a draw through the first twenty minutes and ended up losing by about twenty. They jumped out to an early lead against last year's IU team but were thoroughly dismantled in the end by a 40 point margin.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Yikes||
I need to start phasing soy out of my diet.
But seriously, what I do on Thursday nights is none of your business.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Heh.||
I did chuckle at that remark... but let's just say that a great majority of the student/faculty body would be none too pleased with that choice of mascot. This is bit too reductionistic, but the school tends to be more "Limbaugh" on the outside and "Virgil/Aristotle/Shakespeare/etc." on the inside.
|10 weeks 4 hours ago||"Like drinking grapefruit juice mixed with pine."||
I haven't had one in awhile, but that seems pretty consistent with what I recall. A poster above (WolveInLA, I think) mentioned it being a decent gateway to IPAs--and he may be right--but I actually found that its "lighter" session aspect cut into its potential fullness, leaving it a bit more bitter and astringent than a "bigger" IPA. I might be the exception, but I found that going all the way up to Bell's Hopslam really helped to break me in to drinking IPAs on a regular basis. I used to be an "all malts" kind of guy, but IPAs are my beer of choice at the moment (the warm weather doesn't hurt).
|10 weeks 4 hours ago||Thanks for the recommendation||
I'm assuming that's their "Fifth Voyage"? I have to admit that I wouldn't normally grab a beer off the shelf that is advertized as having coconut, but if you think it's good, I'll give it a shot. Sometimes these strange ingredients work well (for another example, see Dogfishhead's "Aprihop"--an apricot infused IPA). Professor IPA is the only Cranker's I've had to this point. Thanks.
|10 weeks 5 hours ago||Me = Giddy Schoolgirl||
As an alumnus of both Hillsdale and Villanova--and, of course, a lifelong UM fan--I couldn't be happier about this slate. I actually have no idea how I'm going to feel when the games begin, as I'm used to rooting passionately for one team or feeling largely indifferent on account of having no particular allegiance. Hopefully tickets for the opener won't be too difficult to come by, since Hillsdale is only a D-II school.
|10 weeks 20 hours ago||Somewhat agree||
I think Founders is currently the best brewery in MI, and I like the All Day IPA well enough, but I think it's one of their weakest offerings. Dirty Bastard is the best Scottish Ale I've had, and it's really one of the best non-seasonal six-packs that you can pick up for under $10. I agree with a number of the other posters that Bell's has fallen off a bit, but I still prefer their hoppier beers to those of Founders.
To add another beer to the discussion, I've recently been drinking Cranker's Professor IPA (from Big Rapids). I've been really pleased by it, at least on tap. Very bright and delicious. Also, this might be an unpopular opinion, but I like Schmohz's Hopknocker--although I've found their other beers to be poor... and you have to get beyond the Hopknocker being labeled as a "Double IPA," since it's at least as malty as it is hoppy, and it's the darkest "IPA" I've ever seen. I'm not sure I've ever had it in a bottle, though.
|15 weeks 12 hours ago||Yikes.||
Many thanks for the correction, and apologies to Frito. I was, indeed, thinking of Weber's top five... and I was misremembering precisely because I was thinking we were in better shape with Weber. Okay, so maybe this is a case where we're in the top three of one recruit, and fourth or fifth (recently) with another, but the former seems like more of a longshot than the latter.
|15 weeks 13 hours ago||Not to be pedantic...||
... and not to disagree with some of your above contributions, but Damien Harris feels more and more like a longshot because we aren't in his top three. He said we were in his top five, but outside of his top three. And there are plenty of circumstances surrounding his recruitment, of which we're all aware, that suggest a negative "trajectory."