MBB Second Half Production is Amazing

Submitted by poseidon7902 on February 7th, 2024 at 9:48 AM

No context really needed.  Knew the team was bad, but this is really bad.  

Double-D

February 7th, 2024 at 9:57 AM ^

We would be 9-2 in the Big Ten or something like that if the games ended at the 1st half score. We have the talent to play with teams.

Depth, toughness, leadership, coaching?

Blau

February 7th, 2024 at 11:40 AM ^

I think either Brian or Seth covered that their defensive metrics are abysmal, especially for a P5 team. I also think Juwan has been doing some weird player rotations at avoidable moments in games that leave you scratching your head.

Granted his roster isn’t deep and playing without your starting PG for 6 road games won’t help much but I have to believe many other coaches could at least duplicate his recent lack of success without making snarky comments about your starting upperclassman players.

KBLOW

February 7th, 2024 at 10:00 AM ^

It's not bad luck. It's not because of players who aren't good enough. Not because a string of elite teams dominated us. 

It's the piss poor coaching. Period. 

basketballjones

February 7th, 2024 at 10:02 AM ^

Disagree. Talent isn’t there either but that’s on Juwan too. The lack of guards is strange. Having to rely on Will Tschetter won’t get it done in the B1G. Having to start and rely on TWill won’t either. If bother were 7 and 8 men in a rotation would help a ton. Reed ain’t it. Has feet for hands

Qmatic

February 7th, 2024 at 1:06 PM ^

There have been unfortunately quite a few "unplayable" scholarship players of the Howard-era. For whatever reason, Bajema was deemed unplayable in 2019-20 despite us struggling a bit shooting from the outside in the second half of the year. Isaiah Barnes was deemed "unplayable" as well (and after seeing him as a sophomore it made sense). Now YoYo is in his second year and he's not playable. Tschetter really doesn't provide anything. Oh and the elephant in the room: the one "Unplayable" player who has played quite a bit is Jace Howard.

Don't get me wrong, there were some letdowns/duds Beilein recruited, but it wasn't to this extent.

 

m1jjb00

February 7th, 2024 at 1:36 PM ^

Sigh, you guys.  It's not a just B1G stat because as already noted if it were just B1G then it would have to add to zero.  You also know that the unprinted ones can't make up the difference exactly because there are 10 teams that are no worse than +23.  It cannot add up.

mGrowOld

February 7th, 2024 at 10:04 AM ^

Looks to me like a team without any appreciable depth.  That once the starters start to fatigue or get into any sort of foul trouble we're cooked.

Not sure if more pride is the solution here although that's what our HC thinks is the answer to our problems.

Catchafire

February 7th, 2024 at 10:05 AM ^

These are things that seem fixable.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel.  Is it conditioning?  Just seems like we are missing that oomph.  The team needs their version of Herbert.

trueblueintexas

February 7th, 2024 at 10:29 AM ^

I'm guessing if we went deeper into the second half numbers you would find the majority of those point differentials came in a small portion of second half minutes. My perception is that Michigan has given up a ridiculous number of extended scoring streaks over a short period of time in the second half of most of their games.

I don't think I have ever seen a team which can be playing even with an opponent and suddenly give up a 17 - 3, or 12 - 0, or 37-10 scoring run as consistently as this Michigan team does. For that to happen again and again, that is a total team failure. This program needs a reset.

Grampy

February 7th, 2024 at 10:55 AM ^

I love Juwan's intensity and love for Michigan, but I've also never seen a Michigan team that is worse in the second half of games than whatever *this* is, and I go back to Cazzie's day.  The most obvious trait seems to be periods of confusion with no touchstone (e.g. let's just focus on defense for the next 2 minutes) to fall back on.  In some ways, it looks like the players lose interest, but even if that's true, it still falls back to how they are coached in practice and during the game.  I hold no malice for anyone on the team, but the whole deal looks like it needs a fresh start.