Is Sherrone Moore going to be David Shaw 2.0?

Well said!

It would be nice for Coach Moore to have some head coaching experience somewhere. The games that Coach Harbaugh was suspended for don't count. So his first shot in the big chair is at Michigan? Sherrone has a good resume, but this is still a big jump for him. Still, if coach Harbaugh believes he's ready, let's do it.

I’m aligned with this sentiment. Young blood helps reinstate with recruits, players and ingenuity. Through in the mentorship of harbaugh, and we may just have a great recipe for success. 
 

im excited 

Certainly possible.  Promoting an assistant to the head coach role always comes with some risk.  Even if Sherrone was the best coach imaginable in his current role, no one really knows how he'll do in a much larger role with some very different responsibilities.  Nevertheless, one possibility is that he'll soar.  

If anything, the available evidence suggests this is more likely than the alternative.  Harbaugh clearly positioned him as a successor, and Harbaugh has been an extremely shrewd evaluator of coaching ability.  Sherrone also acquitted himself quite well this year, including in situations where he had to juggle multiple roles.  Finally, he seems to really understand how to win, as evidenced by the very different offensive approaches we saw between the Penn State and Ohio State games. 

When you factor in all that along with the program continuity and character continuity he brings, hiring him seems like a no-brainer.  But there's a real chance that he, too, could turn out to be a legendary Michigan coach.

Hopefully, Sherrone is the second coming of Harbaugh and then some, but is that not an overly exuberant expectation?

If one were to look up the backgrounds of each coach, it is truly night and day.  JH did very well as a college and pro player; SM has a small resume of collegiate accomplishments and that is being kind.  JH had a long and successful career as an NFL QB,  SM never played in the NFL.

JH's coaching career has been long and successful at every level including many years as a head coach.  SM's Michigan tenure as a position coach and then an OC has been excellent but short.  It is easy to attribute wins at PSU, MD and OSU to SM, but Harbaugh oversaw the whole script and put it together.

Another item is NIL money.  Many of the players on Team 144 were there before NIL. It is going to be harder to compete down the road with the attitude the University has about spending money.  

Would I be surprised if Coach Moore has the same success as Harbaugh?  Yes and here's hoping I am very wrong.

Harbaugh has established that he’s one of the elites. Just as Ryan Day was never going to be as good as Meyer, Moore will never be as good as Harbaugh. The only question is how much of a step down he will be.

Being a great OC/DC does not make you a good HC and vice versa.

Posts like this comparing Shaw to Moore are just cringe.

Moore is a brilliant football mind with an incredible connection to the players he coaches and the staff he works with. He was Harbaugh’s hand picked successor.

He may prove to be a better HC than OC. He certainly seems to have the skill sets. We should be grateful Harbaugh cared enough about the program to leave it in good hands. 

Harbaugh had to rebuild both lines, which took multiple years, but as you’ve pointed out he found success, regardless.  He’s rebuilt our program and has passed it on in good shape. I’m not sure I feel too bad about that and I think Moore is a good/great candidate to keep it running.

I could see Moore's first year be more similar to Harbaugh's third given the uncertainty of the QB position next season. Hopefully that doesn't derail his support before he has a chance to really get going. 

So then folks have to ask themselves are they ok being a top 10-15 program with Moore at the helm, at least for his first few years? I get that Harbaugh made strides early but it took a while for those to show up where it counts i.e. vs OSU, making the CFP and CFP wins.

Of course there’s going to be a lot of resetting of expectations, especially after losing your savior of a coach, your top flight DC, ST Coordinator, and not to mention many of the best players they’ve had since the late 90’s.

All I’m saying is fans need to understand there were successes AND failures during his entire coaching era at UM and time is needed especially when breaking in a first time HC at this level.

Yeah, I feel like a lot of rival fans conveniently "misremember" Harbaugh's first few years. They act like Michigan completely sucked and then things changed suddenly when Stalions came along (never mind all the much bigger changes that happened that same offseason). Outside of the COVID year, Harbaugh's worst season was a single 8-5 outing in 2017, with every other season 2015-19 seeing nine or ten wins. That's a run MSU would kill for, but are pretending Michigan was just awful during that time. Yes, 2020 was a disaster, but it was for a lot of teams. State fans seem to have no problem reconciling their jump from 2-5 to 11-2 that next year. What Harbaugh did was clean up three areas, and they can all be chalked up to changes in either culture, game planning, or both:

- road games against any team with a pulse. In 2021 they went on the road and beat Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Penn State. Still lost to MSU, but not without some controversy. Going on prior experience I remember heading into that year worried that was a 1-3 or even 0-4 trek

- Ohio State. Enough said there

- postseason. Only really solved that one in the last year (save for the 3-0 in BTCG), but figured it out when it mattered most

Apart from those, yes, very large things, the last three years weren't all too different from 2015-19. He focused on a couple bugaboos and got mostly over the hump.

It was cancelled due to some sort of toilet paper shortage right?

Before we won The Game in 2021, literally every person on this board would have taken your hypothetical, sight unseen, and done so gleefully. 

Well if you have a minimum of 2 losses per year (like shaw) you can bet one of them would be to osu.

And the pac 12 was weak when he was there, the b1g with Oregon usc osu psu wash, that's a much tougher conference to win.

Plus the poster said he was willing to live with 4 straight 8-9 loss seasons as a tradeoff. Would you take that trade? It would set the program back to the stone age with just 3 b1g titles to show for it.

Prior to Harbaugh we only had one undefeated/untied regular season in my life

Should be the goal, doesn't mean I expect it to be the norm. But everyone saying we'd be so lucky with shaw's record are setting the ceiling at 2-3 losses per year. 

Georgia is doing pretty good this decade. Should we not try to compete with the Georgia's in college football?