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He is trying to hard to…

He is trying to hard to impress Taylor when he already has her. He needs to dial things back down.

He dressed like a dope on the way to the super bowl; the Andy Reid confrontation was uncalled for; and the platform celebration was cringe.

Sure you dont want to see if…

Sure you dont want to see if Kelse proposes to Swift?

You are probably old like me…

You are probably old like me. Harbaugh was here for 10 years. The younger crowd cut their teeth on Harbaugh.

The current players will…

The current players will most likely stay because they are still on a trajectory to go to the NFL and they are still apart of a team that is defending the national title but incoming players won't necessarily have the same loyalty.

I think Moore's team will go 9-3 this year and then next year we find out what type of leader Moore is without Harbaugh. I have said it several times prior to any of the staff leaving that Moore was being setup to fail.

I am convinced Warde made it easy for Jim to leave and Jim was successful in spite of the athletic department and not because of it. The same athletic department will not make Moore's job any easier.

 

I am sure you had the same…

Did you have the same confidence when Brady Hoke was hired? Fine should never be good enough for Michigan football. Excellence should be the goal.

This is why calls in the…

This is why calls in the middle of last season for Moore to replace Harbaugh was shortsighted and foolhardy. The posters were assuming all the staff would remain intact and everything would continue as if Harbaugh was leading the program.

Harbaugh is no longer leading the program.

The post was C- level as he…

The post was C- level as he was verbose and light on the details of how the 2024 AD should function. I read up until he mentioned preparation to handle potential outcomes which is something even a 2004 AD should know how to handle.

In my view the 2024 AD needs to possess marketing, management, and administration skills. If rumors are true and Warde is getting paid seven figures then it's not far fetched to expect those skills from one man. Based on evidence Warde fails at managing the people who bring the most value to the school.

College football programs and ADs need to excel in (A few examples):

1) NIL program development (Working with large donors, corporations, and legal)

2) Public Relations (NCAA, Big 10, etc involvement)

3) Official recruitment

4) Player Development

5) Coaching

Michigan employed a head coach that had the program excelling in 3-5 but provided incentive for him to look elsewhere. Warde was the leader of passively pressuring Harbaugh to go elsewhere. Warde demonstrated a lack of preparation for Harbaugh's departure and finally there has been virtually no leadership on communication or direction regarding Michigan's NIL program.

 

Rest in peace Apollo

Rest in peace Apollo. I will miss him and Flint native Tony Burton.

But will Notre Dame be…

But will Notre Dame be invited?

I know what the responses to this post will be :)

Anyone else notice his…

Anyone else notice his refusal to answer the question if Michigan could have done anything to keep him?

I am glad Brian is on the…

I am glad Brian is on the fire Warde bandwagon but he also excused Warde for his handling of the Harbaugh situation because Harbaugh left to win a Superbowl. The handling of Jim's contract is important regardless of Jim's desire because it showcases our directors ability to handle a tough situation and also the type of manager he is moving forward.

In my mind, it's not the comments on NIL that disqualifies Warde but his reduction of Harbaugh's salary and then his short-sightedness in making things right when Jim Harbaugh interviewed with the Vikings. Michigan doing nothing for Jim in regards to the investigations and subsequent suspensions was the final straw.

Jim stated all the right things during this such as "Don't get bitter, get better." Everyone around Michigan should have known that when your top employee is throwing around the word bitter in describing his work situation then things are not going well.

Personally I would fire the…

Personally I would fire the guy who has managed to drum up fake support by many on this forum the moment Harbaugh walked: Warde.

There is absolutely no evidence of success under his tenure (he did not hire Harbaugh) and no reason he should still have a job. Hire an AD who understands that the college football program is the face of your athletic department and even your school. If I were tasked then I would evaluate men and then hire based on who I concluded would do the best job with the changing landscape of college athletics.

If I were the Michigan AD I would make sure I had a functioning relationship with the head coach and know what his priorities are and assess them in regards to the success of the athletic department and football team. I would always have a list of professionals that I thought could be a potential replacement for the head coach and made sure I had some sembelance of a relationship with them. I would contact them immediately when I needed to.

You think it is a coincidence that Alabama hired DeBore three days after Saban retired?

Some of the coaches on my short list would have been Jedd Fisch, Kalen DeBoer, Dan Lanning, Lane Kiffin, and Jeff Brohm.

Jim Hackett is an example of someone who handled this process brilliantly when hiring Harbaugh. Warde's dysfunctional relationship with Jim Harbaugh all but guaranteed that Michigan would be at a disadvantage hiring outside the program.

 

Read my entire post again. I…

Read my entire post again. I am happy that we won the national championship but next year is coming.

Guess this national championship automatically means Michigan will play at a high level next year with one of the hardest schedules in the nation? Not even Harbaugh had to go through a gauntlet as difficult. My prediction of 9-3 is not unrealistic. 

You honestly think a man with no head coaching experience at a school that has the highest of expectations will excel? I know the arguments about his experience on the staff but those are your assumptions. You have absolutely no proof that Moore will succeed because none exists.

By the way Harbaugh's endorsement doesn't mean results will follow either. Michigan was smart to hire Jim Harbaugh. They are not smart to hire a coach with zero experience leading a program. The program also demonstrates a lack of awareness regarding the impact NIL will have on the sport going forward. 

Sorry buddy but Michigan (and guys like you) think Michigan will win because it's Michigan, that does not matter anymore in college football.

 

The University of Michigan…

The University of Michigan athletic department is in for a rude awakening as college football has morphed into this quasi-professional league. Thriving on brand and institutional recognition alone will not produce championship level teams. Michigan has to be willing to compete in all areas at the highest level including staffing, recruiting, managing PR, and NIL.

There are a lot of cope and hope posts on this forum that seems to be disconnected with reality. We are hoping Moore does well but no on really knows if he will. We are hoping that the next S&C hire will be just as good but we don't know. We are hoping that the Michigan name will rise above that of Ohio State spending 10 million+ dollars on their NIL recruits.

I have seen a poster stating next year being house money but I know that is stupid. If we lose at Texas at home by a large margin then we will all come back down to reality.

You are not the leaders and best because you decided to label yourself as such, you need to earn it and keep earning it. The idea that we deserve to stay on top regardless of what happens because we are Michigan is an attitude of entitlement. The Michigan athletic department cannot make poor decisions and hope that the Michigan name can overcome it.

Warde is definitely a bad hire that needs to be fired. Moore is a great guy and a good coach but he is being setup for failure. If the team goes 9-3 or worse next year and losses to Ohio State then the honeymoon is over. He will be given roughly four years but if they yield poor results then we very well could be looking at three to four years to recover from what is essentially an experimental hire. Eight years of mediocrity for recovery is a long period.

As for me, I think I am done being a diehard fan, I can no longer worry about a program that I have no control over and be this emotionally interested in it. I am getting too old. The end of the Carr run (except 2006), the RichRod years, the Hoke years was a long stretch of mediocrity. The adding of a million commercials and four hours of watching on essentially what is between 50-60 minutes of content doesn't help. I'll still support the team and take my mom to the games but I am moving beyond letting the program affect my emotional well-being.

Self-awareness is good and…

Self-awareness is good and Jim may be lacking it. The last two coaching positions he has had, he has left and reportedly some if it is due to conflict with his superiors. What will make Los Angeles different? The assumption would be that the Spanos have to walk on egg shells around Jim and placate him in order to "win a super bowl." Perhaps, they learn to get along and play nice during this venture for the sake of winning.

My money is on someone in the organization rubbing Jim (or Jim rubbing them) in the wrong way and tension begins to mount. I could be wrong and perhaps I am but you also still have to add the fact of how hard it is to win a super bowl. While typing this, the Ravens have their hands full at home to the Chiefs.

I appreciate Jim, I am thankful for what he did. I have zero doubt that he would accomplish this at Michigan the moment he was hired. Also, I have no doubt he will have a winning record at the Chargers but I can't say he will win a super bowl. There is a better chance that he will get fired and for me that is sad because he could still be here building on his legacy.  

Stephen, 

The issue is not…

Stephen, 

The issue is not that Harbaugh left or even that he could not win a Lombardi trophy at Michigan but that Michigan did not handle Harbaugh's contracts or his suspensions correctly. Harbaugh should have been the highest paid college football coach after the 2021 season and most certainly after 2022. Harbaugh was not paid according to his value. I am certain that the dollar figure wouldn't have mattered to Harbaugh but showing him that we value him more than other program values their head coach would have mattered. Michigan failed in this regard.

Jim Harbaugh also was suspended for six games but should not have been suspended for any. The NCAA targeted him (during a time where schools are soliciting athletes with open offers to transfer) regarding two cheeseburgers and the possibility that Harbaugh was not forthright about whether he purchased them. I am sensing the level of ridiculousness of the matter by merely typing it out let alone knowing that our head football coach had to serve a three game suspension because of it. The same could be said of Connor Stallions as Jim was declared guilty prior to any investigation. If our fans, school, and administration is willing to celebrate Jim's accomplishments for the 2023 season then it also right to conclude that we failed the man by not doing everything possible to ensure that he was coaching in all the games. Jim Harbaugh was never going to be a sacrificial lamb to spare Michigan's reputation.

Jim's gone; the fans and alumni can only influence what goes on at Michigan currently. What we have is a passive administrator who seems a bit naive in regards to what it takes to win in the current college football landscape. Warde is a liability and this is what Michigan football cannot afford if it wants to remain at an elite level.   

I don't think Jim Harbaugh…

I don't think Jim Harbaugh will win a Super Bowl and even if he wins one, he should know that he will never be appreciated as much for his Super Bowl win as he would have been for his legacy at Michigan. 

This may be me being bitter but I hope that he states leaving Michigan as being the biggest regret of his life.

At this point it doesn't…

At this point it doesn't matter what they did before they came to Michigan but the results since. Michigan was at a low point on the defense side of the ball when MacDonald joined the staff so a risk was warranted and it paid off. Going away from the Raven system would be a huge risk and if doesn't pay off then the finger pointing would be placed firmly on this poor choice.

Hope seems to be the…

Hope seems to be the definitive word concerning this situation.

No, no it's not.

No, no it's not.

He has his shot and his…

He has his shot and his first big test will be at home against Texas.

No and I didn't want his pay…

No and I didn't want his pay reduced. The story of his pay reduction being a talking point of the 2021 season also didn't help as a man has his pride. This man was losing to Ohio State and their fans wanted him to return to the NFL, why? They knew he was a good coach and eventually would start beating them.

I also didn't think his suspension for cheeseburger gate or Stallions was justified. I do not think the athletic department did enough on behalf of Jim Harbaugh.

Also, saddling Moore, a man with no head coaching experience, as head coach of one of the most pressure filled coaching jobs in America is also foolish. The Michigan athletic department has made many foolish moves and expects to thrive simply because "It's Michigan." 

It's time - no more delay…

It's time - no more delay Warde. Hire Juwan. He is the right man at the right time.

I, personally, don't care who Harbaugh endorses at this time as he left. The cope of too many against better judgement will end up returning Michigan to mediocrity. I hope I am wrong but I see Michigan going 9-3 next year and Moore getting fired within four years. 

Michigan is putting Moore a man with only four games experience and even then just coaching on game day in a position to fail. This doesn't help Moore or Michigan. 

I have re-watched game film of the last five games and I had to fast forward because the offense did much of nothing for large portions of the game. The Alabama game nearly ended in defeat and Washington was allowed to hang around because the offense did nothing in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. We were able to over come this because we had Harbaugh, now everyone here expects the same results with a man who has virtually no head coaching experience. 

I for see this what I will call an experiment ending badly.

 

Georgia is doing pretty good…

Georgia is doing pretty good this decade. Should we not try to compete with the Georgia's in college football?

You would be happy with four…

You would be happy with four losing seasons in exchange for no undefeated teams and three conference championships?

Just for the record Michigan has had three losing seasons since 1969. Brady Hoke had 1 losing season before being fired. Rodriguez had two losing season and a 7-6 seasons before his firing.

If John Bacon's post is true…

If John Bacon's post is true then Warde must be fired as he is a liability to the school. Even if it weren't true he should still be let go.

Warde is passive in the way he conducts business and this has hurt Michigan particularly with the unjust suspensions of Harbaugh this season. The football team had to endure a lot to earn this championship, no thanks to Warde.

Warde hired Juwan Howard, a man who had zero head coaching experience and has turned Michigan basketball into irrelevance. Many Michigan fans wanted to see Howard succeed due to his being apart of Michigan history but the hire itself in light of his coaching resume was foolish in hindsight.

Warde was never seen as having a great relationship with Jim Harbaugh and also seen having dinner with Jim Stapleton, a man who reportedly has a grudge with Harbaugh. This is an exercise of poor judgement.

Finally, a lot has been made of how little fans know and that may be true but what hasn't taken place is a correcting of the record. My post could be 100% wrong and we wouldn't know. We wouldn't know because of Warde's passiveness and failure to address hot button issues publicly.

We aren't winning the Big 10…

We aren't winning the Big 10 or beating Ohio State this year. Sorry.

If Moore has the first five…

If Moore has the first five years that Shaw did then I will not be thrilled. If Moore has the last five years that Shaw did then the program will be devastated. 

I won't root for the…

I won't root for the Chargers and I won't be rooting for Jim. My loyalty lies with Michigan. I stopped watching the NFL and don't care much for the product. Jim Harbaugh is the first successful Michigan football coach in my life to walk away from the program and it feels like a death has taken place. I, personally, think he is making a big mistake. 

If I do take up a rooting interest in the NFL it is typically for Michigan players that are doing well such as Tom Brady or Charles Woodson.

Georgia is a good example…

Georgia is a good example but they weren't taking nearly as much of a risk and they weren't winning SEC titles before Smart arrived let alone national championships. OSU is not a good example because they won a national championship under Meyer who had previous head coaching experience. Day has not won a national championship and is 1-3 versus Michigan. Ohio State understands what it takes to win in this current culture. Notre Dame is honestly another bad example, do you want to be them right now?

Harbaugh is not the employer…

Harbaugh is not the employer; Michigan is. If I go to my employer and tell them I want a raise. If they decline or sit on it then they are demonstrating that I am replaceable. Harbaugh is not replaceable.

I have a love for the city…

I have a love for the city of Flint, Michigan but there is much that would have to change before I move back.

If Harbaugh had his lawyers make proposals that Michigan sat on until it was too late then the Michigan athletic department may have sabotaged its own football program.

I love Jim Harbaugh. I think…

I love Jim Harbaugh. I think when his coaching career is complete that his biggest "what ifs" is not what if he had won a Super Bowl but what if he had stayed at Michigan. Honestly, I don't think he will win that Super Bowl that eludes him but he could have been a legend in the college ranks.

Even if he were to win a Super Bowl with the Chargers, the fans in LA would never appreciate Jim as much as the Michigan faithful.

I remember the eight games…

I remember the eight games prior to 2021 that we played Ohio State and think it is still too early to be this bold in our trash talking.

Minter staying would calm a…

Minter staying would calm a lot of us down. Minter and Ben Herbert are major contributors to the current Michigan football culture and keeping them both is imperative.

Found Warde's mgoblog…

Found Warde's mgoblog account. Manuel Warde will be greatly known for letting too many successful coaches in Michigan athletics walk.

Of course Warde's statement…

Of course Warde's statement is positive; he made sure to do nothing while our head coach was suspended for six games and our national championship season was nearly sabotaged. 

9-3 is now the ceiling. Go…

9-3 is now the ceiling. Go Blue!

Harbaugh also had zero…

Harbaugh also had zero titles which was used as a talking point against him until 2021.

I don't think anyone believes Jim will be unsuccessful in the NFL but being successful doesn't matter either. A couple of contending coaches were on the hot seat this year. It's been 11 years since John Harbaugh last won a Superbowl. Just because you are great coach doesn't mean you will win the title. No one would argue Bellichick's greatness but he hasn't had a playoff victory since Brady left.

Watched this last night and…

Watched this last night and loved it!

Barry Sanders. You can't…

Barry Sanders. You can't tell me what to do. I thought I was a Lions fan in the 1990s but then after Barry retired, I stopped watching the Lions. Discovered that I was actually a Barry Sanders fan. 

No but you can demonstrate…

No but you can demonstrate that you have put forth good effort and leave the ball in the other person's court, in this case Jim Harbaugh's. Michigan has not demonstrated that such an effort has been put forth.

If Michigan refuses to do whatever is in their power to retain Jim and it's clear they don't mind him walking without doing so then I am no longer a fan of Michigan football.

This has to be a situation that Jim leaves only because he wants to win a Superbowl. If he leaves due to some request that Michigan could have granted but refused to do so then Michigan deserved what it gets. No Michigan fan cares about the NCAA or the Big 10s actions toward Jim and it shouldn't hinder Michigan's approach toward Jim.

Sorry but this needs to be…

Sorry but this needs to be said and will be somewhat political. The blame for the 2020 season does not fall on Jim Harbaugh. The 2020 season for a Big 10 team was awful but for Michigan teams (MSU included) was worse.

In the spring of 2020 when teams are ramping up practice the state of Michigan had some of the most extensive and far reaching (some would say draconian) lockdowns in the country. Citizens were not even allowed to travel to a relatives house in the same town. This effectively ended spring work for the football team.

The fall wasn't much better as the Big 10 initially cancelled the 2020 season before deciding it was necessary to have one. The season started late, was condensed, and the scheduling changed. Many of our key players opted out of playing the season. All of these factors were completely outside of Jim's control but all of them affected the production of that 2020 team. 

If Jim would have been fired after 2020 then Michigan deserved to have many more decades mired in mediocrity. I am glad that didn't and Jim didn't deserve the pay cut either. The pay cut being a national story repeated during the broadcast of every game in 2021 is one of the many reasons why Jim deserves that three man panel to evaluate his job status in response to an NCAA ruling.

I was hoping the Texans…

I was hoping the Texans would pull the upset but then I remember how Stroud did against Michigan. At least we can put to bed the idea that Stroud would have done better if it weren't for signal stealing.

The next time you encounter…

The next time you encounter the "Bo boys," let them know what is on your mind. I am sure they will appreciate you more for it.

You and I can duke this out…

You and I can duke this out on a forum but you don't hear Bo's former players calling for his statue to be removed. Those players have greater influence with the University than you or I. Bo, himself, wouldn't have like the idea of a statue anyway. When the team was winning a national championship we were inundated with Bo Schembechler statements.

 

Sorry he has got to stay for…

Sorry he has to stay for that and despite all the negative talk from mgoblog fans far too many former players still admire Bo and vocalize it. One of those former players is Jim Harbaugh.

There is a void for true…

There is a void for true sports journalism that is disconnected from politics but we probably won't see it in our lives. Who hired the PI firm that investigated Michigan? May never get the answer to it but we will get to hear of a reporter asking a question to Todd Bowles about how his team will adjust to playing the Detroit Lions in tough weather conditions.

Perhaps, Jim Caldwell would…

Jim Caldwell would have been a better and more serious choice. My guess is he wants to be retired from head coaching but if not he should be a coach somewhere.

Dan Campbell embodies the values of Detroit and is a good hire but letting go of Caldwell for Matt Patricia was disappointing.

Anyone who would downvote…

Anyone who would downvotes you for being honest is a douche.