OT How bad does Silas Redd's Transfer look in hindsight?

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USC loses to 6-7 Georgia Tech to finish 7-6. Silas Redd tranfers away from Penn State which turned out to be one of the biggest overachievers this year to USC which has clearly fallen the flattest I've ever seen a Preseason #1 fall.

mackbru

January 1st, 2013 at 11:53 AM ^

Yes, USC is neighbored by some occasionally sketchy neighborhoods. And, yes, there have been a small handful of violent crimes in the USC area. At the same time, though, Compton, like Harlem, is a large and mostly benign area that gets grossly broad-brushed -- typically by whites who've never been there -- as a giant gangbanger war-zone.

In fact, USC is a pretty impressive place whose students tend to be smart enough to navigate their way through/around the rougher areas and toward the many safe areas just beyond. Students feel quite safe and comfortable there. In fact, USC attracts more affluent and coddled Angeleno kids than does UCLA, which is located in lily-white Westwood.

 

Shakey Jake

December 31st, 2012 at 6:36 PM ^

If you opted to do a little research before posting you'll see that USC was founded way back in the late 1800's. The area wasn't a hell hole then. It became a problem much later on and at that point the Univerisyt was already rooted in the area. The school thrives in a not so great part of town, a part that has culturally changed with immigration etc. And guess what?  Many kids would give their left nut and right breast to go there. And let's not be blind to the fact that many of the top college football players and athletes from all sports in the country end up playing at USC even though it's not in the greatest of areas. But then again, look at a lot of prestigious schools in large cites. Many are now located in bad areas which weren't bad areas when the schools were founded.

bronxblue

January 1st, 2013 at 12:16 AM ^

UChicago always struck me as a bad location, but as someone who worked and goes to school at Columbia, the neighborhood isn't that bad.  It might not have the curb appeal that parts of the NYU campus have, but the area isn't as scary as people are led to believe.

That said, USC's campus does seem to be in a worse location that you'd expect given the price tag.

jblaze

December 31st, 2012 at 9:09 PM ^

but this: "Many kids would give their left nut and right breast to go there." makes it sound like Harvard (or Michigan!). Get real.

Also, Redd will be hated by PSU fans/ alumni forever and USC may/may not consider him a real Trojan.

bronxblue

January 1st, 2013 at 12:19 AM ^

I was going to say the same thing.  USC is a really good school, but UCLA is right next door, and I'd think students would rather go to Stanford or Cal Tech than USC if the goal was a top-notch education in CA.

vbnautilus

January 1st, 2013 at 11:04 AM ^

USC was ranked above UCLA academically last year for the first time... this year they are tied (and both above Michigan).   They've been using the tremendous amounts of donor money they've recieved to hire big time faculty away from some of the places you've listed and are on the rise academically.  

Shakey Jake

January 1st, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^

I don't take much into ranking undergraduate schools.  I believe anyone can get a good education at any university if they apply themselves. Unfortunately for you, US NEWS ranks USC a few notches ahead of the almight U of M. I only post this because I am guessing that you do care about superficial rankings. And while I know many people like to tout that having a U of M degree is great because of the alumni base, the same goes for SC. The bottom line is that only the ignorant will scoff at a USC degree.

energyblue1

December 31st, 2012 at 6:04 PM ^

You couldn't blame him, looked like he was going into an nfl offense, nfl qb, wr's he was suppose to complete that puzzle......reality is Kiffin didn't have a great staff there and it shows..  Not to mention he can be such a douche people enjoy him failing.  Silas, I would think his stock would have been better to stay at pennst.....

Perkis-Size Me

December 31st, 2012 at 6:08 PM ^

i mean yeah in hindsight it was a poor choice but he made what seemed like a pretty logical choice at the time. usc looked primed to at least make the rose bowl, and he clearly wanted a fresh start. there's no way he could have predicted the team would perform this poorly.

uniqenam

December 31st, 2012 at 6:10 PM ^

This might be terrible, but I'm sort of glad. He's still going to have a pro career and get big $$$, but I hated the way he ditched his teammates, program, and university just to make a big career move. Maybe I'm too much of a dreamer, but I think there's something to be said for making a decision based on your loyalty and what's right, rather than what's going to make you the most cash and notoriety.

uniqenam

December 31st, 2012 at 6:28 PM ^

It's not about the guilt of the University administrators, but supporting your teammates.  Regardless, it wasn't "the university" that didn't do what was right; it was a select few administrators who encouraged criminal acts to occur, not the thousands of faculty, staff, teammates, students, and alumni of Penn State. Also, not everyone had the talent of a Silas Redd, where they can pick to transfer to any top-notch institution; why not work through one more year with your brothers on the field, trying to salvage something rather than taking the easy way out?

Mr Miggle

December 31st, 2012 at 6:43 PM ^

Well, you have a point about leaving his teamates a year early, but why in hell should he feel loyalty to a program and school that had just fired his coaches and was in turmoil with many fans and students acting in ways that would embarass most decent people? Add in that the school and program turned out to not be like the ones he was sold as a recruit. Their season turned out better than anyone expected, but it would not have been a shock if it had been a disastrous sideshow full of distractions. He hardly took the easy way out, transferring to a program where he was gong to have a lot of competition for playing time. 

jcouz

December 31st, 2012 at 6:18 PM ^

How can a team that recruits on the level that USC does finish 7-6?  They recruit on the level of Alabama.  I cannot even imagine Alabama finishing 7-6 under Saban during the rest of his tenure.  Lane Kiffin must have some pictures that USC's athletic director doesn't want to go public.

A Dude

December 31st, 2012 at 6:19 PM ^

But nobody expected Penn St to have the year they had. I don't just mean record wise, but when he transferred everything negative was much fresher. Not many expected them to have anywhere close to the year they did with their image. BOB did a great job of changing a culture and a mindset to give them hope and support to this team. It is a great story to talk of the seniors who stayed, but if any one of them would have left It is hard to fault any of them. The situation affected each player current and former differently and I am sure his decision to leave wasn't solely on draft status and winning a title this year.

I am sure that was a factor in going to USC, but there were a lot of moral issues going on. Many guys left so technically you could ask why they did also, but why even bring it up. They do not have disloyalty issues because they left amid the worst scandal in sports history.

OmarDontScare

December 31st, 2012 at 6:26 PM ^

Back to mediocrity for USC. College football fans have short memories. USCs program was a joke before Carroll got there.

WolverineHistorian

December 31st, 2012 at 7:13 PM ^

That's because Carroll got the best players money could buy.  Before he got there, USC was such a joke that they were referred to by the media as Southern Cal Community College...

2001: 6-6

2000: 5-7

1999: 6-6

1998: 7-6

1997: 6-5

1996: 6-6

1995: 9-2-1

1994: 7-5

1993: 8-5

1992: 6-5-1

1991: 3-8

The year before Carroll arrived, I posted on MLive and I remember a fellow Michigan fan asking, remember the days when we hated USC?  They have been so bad for so long that you can't even hate them anymore.  You just feel sorry for them. 

UMFoster

December 31st, 2012 at 6:44 PM ^

Why is It that Lane Kiffin is always a hot coaching name whenever there is an opening at a good school? He's proved that he is a good recruiter but hasn't proved anything on the field. Not to mention he has a history of cheating and getting sanctions. I don't see what all the buzz is about

Wolverine in Troy

December 31st, 2012 at 7:06 PM ^

It is quite nice out here- Beautiful campus. The location coined as the ghetto is a bit outdated and usually referenced by people who have never been.

Too bad their football program is the devil.