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|5 days 2 hours ago||what is the measure though?||
What are their measures though?
IMO the measure should be for 3 types of games...
#1 Biggest Rival game, what is the atmosphere or what ever the biggest game every year is....
#2 What is the normal atmosphere for a conference game, the avg game say iowa or northwestern, solid opponent.
#3 What is it for the gimme games.... is the place dead or are the fans still rocking.....
Pennst has the best atmosphere for a big night game, and imho that is best in the country. That said, I think Michigan's night game for ND was better than Osu's big night game for Texas or Usc... that said, Osu has a great atmosphere and nobody can deny that.
I will say this, Pennst has the most fun fans in cf, I have been around them for games at Michigan and seen them at Happy Valley and they have a good time. Osu fans are just overall pissy either way... good atmosphere but man they live and die with each individual play... and their games against bad opponents that place is a tomb...and most are.
Michigan #1, osu/nd environment is entirely different, namely osu... far more intense for a home game against either of these teams. #2 Very middle of the pack in the bigten for an avg home game...crowd gets loud for 3rd downs and intimidating but why not on 1st, 2nd, 3rd and even 4th down... Seriously... Osu/nd crowd is intense every play, every down....but not for the avg team.... #3 Lets never play eastern again...nobody wants that game and fans barely stand for the victors... I don't care what they say, in 2007 the attendance was not 100,000, I would put it closer to 80,000..........so middle of the pac of bigten teams here as well.
Michigan, basically for Big games.... is up with Pennst, and Ohio st for best envirionments....for #2 and 3 avg about #5....
#1 big game environment.. Pennst, Michigan, Ohiost and Nebraska as tops...
#2 avg conf opponents Wisconsin, Pennst, Ohio st, Nebraska, Michigan, Iowa in order...
#3 Wisconsin, Nebraska, Pennst, Ohio st, Michigan, Iowa....
Jmo but those are the order and it changes based upon opponent... Measureing Pennst's biggest night game to a noon game for michigan against iowa is not a measurement of environment... Otherwise just compare same game situations...
|1 week 4 days ago||I just quit carrying that burden....||
2011 was incomplete only because of the state yr. And, I know many will laugh because our team was no where near ready for it....but consider the fact that they were literally a couple plays from being undefeated..........Iowa was quite literally 2 plays... and Msu was the same, quite literally a couple plays..........
None of us would have thought they were ready but...from my perspective at that time it let me put the burden down of the RR era..
Also, I carry nothing from 2004 - 2006 I really didn't. From 2007 though, it felt like an eternity...like being on the ship going down and you can't fix it.....you know you have a life raft and will be fine but you can't fix it.............that was 2007-2010 for me...............
|1 week 5 days ago||others||
Virginia, Vatech, Washington/Wazzu..Oregon/Oregon St, Cal Stanford, zona / asu and others.
Best instate though is Bama, Auburn for intensity... but overall I can't think of a great instate with the competitive balance of good great programs.
|1 week 6 days ago||IIRC, Tressel was out if he didn't beat Michigan||
Osu alumns felt they had a better team than 6-6, most felt they had a 9 win team and possibly better with Cooper.. So to go 6-6 in year one under tressel and lose to Michigan they were feeling was a step back from Cooper to make things even worse.
Wots I heard is tressel was told beat michigan or else.
That said, Henson, had he returned Michigan was going to a bcs bowl and a few things gone right could have played Miami in the title game.....though that miami team was sic, I don't know anyone would have wanted to play that team....but Henson, Terrell and Walker ....I would have taken that shot.....
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||Something is wrong about this..jmho||
I agree with ND not releasing him. But it seems like something else is up, otherwise why sign the loi in february only to want out a few months later.
It is good for nd not to let him out of his loi instead sending out the message to all recruits that the school they sign with can do this. Basically, sign with the school you want to play for and make sure you know before you sign.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Would rather dominate post season list!||
This list is ok, but innacurate in many ways.
Schofield is at least 2nd team, period. I cannot name 3 right tackles better, I can't name 2 in the bigten right now.
James Ross, Imho ends up 1st team.
Washington or Pip one ends up 1st team....jmho there as well.
Clark / Ojemudia, one of them will be there as well..... and imho Taco ends up fr all american.
Darboh / Chesson, one of them ends up 2nd team all bigten!
Funchess... ends up 1st team all bigten and by virtue of the receiving core all together, Gardner ends up 1st team all bigten this yr,
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Ok, so what do they get from the lannisters?||
Guess that gets covered next week.....I get why the Lannisters would seek them out, with oppertunity and all....but Frey wants to marry off children to other houses and the Lannisters promised off 2 and only have 2 of Cersi's kids and one of them promised off already.......
Should be fun, but either way, this is leading to an epic war with the dragon queen, lannisters and the other dude now..........and of course the greyjoys are coming back into the mix
|2 weeks 3 days ago||1992 Rose bowl, 2007 Rose bowl....||
2 great teams that should have won their bowl games.
92, not that they lost to washington, and without everit on the field the oline was a mess for that game but still..... defense was on the field all game long... Injuries that yr imho cost a natty title...
07 rosebowl... seriously, that team was alot better than the showing they had. Still kills me to this day how passive Lloyd was in calling the defense...and how they just let sc throw without going after them at all.....
01 Citrusk vs Tennessee......that hurt but mainly cause they couldn't get out of their own way making mistakes and giving the ball back to tennessee....best part of the entire game is elmer fudd fulmer was tring to run up the score and once our defense got it's feet under them, they couldn't move the ball in the air or on the ground! But was too late by then!
11 Outback Bowl vs Miss st... just the way they lost, no fight, no nothing and total beat down by an okay sec team... The best part to that game watching it, I knew the RR era was over...there was no way Brandon was going to keep him around after that debacle....he wanted improvement and wanted to see how his coach could perform and he didn't. Bye bye rich!
|5 weeks 6 days ago||No different than other schools||
Recruiting is coaches working their tails off to get into recruits ears, heads and convince them this is the place for them no matter what school they are recruiting for.
Nebraska seems like they are way behind in the evaluation period as well not just sending out offers. They have litte buzz in recruiting so they are in trouble. Nebraska used to have the entire state run it's option offense for hs football so they could take walk on's on offense every yr that were tailor made to step in. That allowed them to focus a little heavier on defense in recruiting.
Nebraska isn't that far from texas, or certainly no further from texas than alabama is and other sec schools tha regularly recruit Texas....they just have to get out and work it., though Pelini has never been known for being a bigtime recruiter.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||wonder how big his bonus is now?||
Would love to see his bank records from 2010 till now............................as barkley said 200g for newton was a good investment....wonder how much it took in hush money to keep the investment secure....
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Minnesota has blown it again.....||
Glenn Mason must be laughin agian...........and they wonder why they are still fledgeling rather then going out and having a plan from the get go.......it is obious they do not.......I wonder if their ad thought he had Smart in the bag and jumped thinking it was happening.
|15 weeks 18 hours ago||thanks for being a mod||
I was a mod on a different site, some would know which...that said it's tough keeping up with sheer volume of posts and checking the boards constantly, keep conversation moving and in a decent direction. Keep the negativity out so the boards are tolerable....and not just some dump hole.
I have visited these boards more then in the past and you guys have done a real good job moderating. This board is fun at times with the sarcasm and over the top reactions to stuff posted and as well then just over the top and annoying at others. It's a tough job, unthankfull by many and zero reward is absolutely truth. Good job and when you recharge the batteries may take it up agian....
|15 weeks 2 days ago||bigten tourney will get better imo....||
Home court advantage is a huge deal to teams strengths from what I have watched. So when you play at msu or osu it's going to be a physically played game and refs let more things go. Msu and osu were riding our offensive players and that is something that gets called in a tourney game......
Michigan, Indiana tend to be more offensive and the calles tend to favor that style for these teams when at home. I think it's why pennst got a win, they played our boys tough in a2 physically to nock our boys off their shooting....in happy valley they got away with even more they wouldnt in a2 or in a tourney..
Biggest thing is play aggressive no matter what the refs are calling. Be aggressive offensively since they are an offensive team, and keep the defense active bigtime....The most aggressive team under control gets the calls.........That is why duke seeming owns officials but they play under control but ultra aggresive...
|15 weeks 6 days ago||bama did the right thing, saban so what...||
Fact that the school kicked them out means saban just followed what already was directed by the school.
Oversigning...well it's roster management and what needs to be addressed isn't the 25 per yr limit but it needs to be 25 plus 3 in a yr or 85 total plus 3... that way if you only have 15 available scholarships and you can't still sign 28 something the sec is still doing.
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||Big Will should have been a rs||
But then again, so should Devin and so should many others. Rich made tons of player personel mistakes in his tenure but I think the biggest part of that was his coaching staff.
Bruce Tall was a DB coach his entire career and was the DLine coach at Michigan....I had read he attended coaching clinics for coaching dline that spring/summer.. 2008... Shafer and Gibby were the 2 db coaches for that 2008 team and Hop the lber coach...a safeties coach his entire career........
Bruce Tall being the dline coach tells you everything you ever needed to know about RR's tenure. He never adapted or changed and defense starts up front just like offense. If the oline performed just like the dline did, that oline coach would have been fired....Rich protected Tall at dline rather then move him to db coach like he should have the moment Shafer was fired...and took the fall.....
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Career move for Montgomery...||
Career move for motgomery isn't a miss by hoke, and to put that out is a bit foolish imo. It's no secret Montgomery is a very good dline coach or that Michigan can essentially have 3 dline coaches... so I would guess far more comes down to career move, more responsibility. Reconnecting with stoops, also Iowa alumni.. and many other things in it for Montgomery.....
Hoke, didn't block it, offered to match compensation and Mongomery still wanted to move on.
Most likely our staff hires a olber coach.... rather or not they hire an olber or dline coach for the replacement I am good with Hoke and Mattison selecting assistants...something I think is a great strength of theirs.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||a grey shirt cannot enroll, workout or practice till the 2nd||
A greyshirt cannot be on campus, workout or practice with the team in the summer or fall...they are not allowed to enroll till the 2nd or winter semester/quarter.....they can't participate in bowl practices either.....so no sec teams cannot do that once they have a kid on campus.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Suprised at the offer..||
Unless the staff feels he is a top second option should they not land McDowell and a few others at dt.... With Mone already committed I would be suprised if they accpet a commitment quickly before Mcdowell even visits....
No doubt though the staff knows defensive talent so we shall see how it unfolds. I don't think McDowell ends up at DE unless it's SDE......
|18 weeks 2 days ago||It's still simple to me...||
Those 4 didn't report it, they should have, all 4 are paying a huge price for not doing so but have damn near sunk the football program because they didn't do the right thing.
Spanier, Schultz and Graham all are more culpable as they didn't answer to Joe, all had the responsibility to report it themselves.
Joepa, yeah, he influenced the nonreporting, but the deal is, he answered to them, not the other way around.
Mcqueary, at any time could have picked up the phone and called police...
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Guess noone got the update||
Ricardo Miller is transfering to Umass.........That is one....so rather or not any 5th yr player is invited back you can figure one more will leave before fall camp. Some attrition happens...
Remember last yr had 25 signed and they still offered 7 walk-ons schollies..... so attrition happens, and keeping close to te 85 number even with a full class is the game these days.
|19 weeks 20 hours ago||Tennessee's new facility far exceeds this...||
Still for plush and pure awesomeness...Texas and Oregon's seem to be tops still...But doesn't matter a weight room is a weight room and as long as you win players come if you win big elite players come. Not a whole lot of care is given to the ameneties....as Usc and Miami's were the worst forever, though I think Miami's is horrible still.....
|19 weeks 3 days ago||quick takes||
Didn't get enough players involved offensively, relied to much on burke. Didn't move well offensively or defensively at times, allowed easy baskets by Zeller. Too many possessions one pass and a shot, no flow, movement kills this......
|19 weeks 3 days ago||My understanding is it's a violation||
Remember usc had to quit having dinner at Papadikis's restraunt as they always happened to have former players show up and then the second thing they got in trouble for was having a commitment ceremony....
Osu got in trouble for having Chris Carter bump into recruits at osu games ....
This happens all the time though...........
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Oline then QB||
Oline, unless the guy has already been in a solid s&c program it's hard to predict how strong he can get while adding the needed weight.. and is he that type of worker. One reason LTT in this current class was highly rated is he has the athleticism to be elite, but doesn't have the fundamentals, doesn't have near the core strength at all to play for a couple yrs...
QB, it's really a position that can be hard to predict. Competitiveness, natural leader, very much the has to be preparing more then anyone else type player. Getting that is so hard...some guys are just better athletically in today's read/spread option run game and start for that reason but the guy that can get the ball where it needs, recognize a defense, blitz, know his routes, route tree vs the coverage and hit it... That's hard to find a really good qb and develope him.....
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Players did feel entitled...||
I would agree with that and part of what Rich was doing was coming to bust up "The Country Club" mentality...and yes, there were players who had that entitlement feeling...it was posted on the interweb message boards all over including mgoblog....scout, rivals all of the boards.
But not hiring quality coaches, hiring 4 db coaches instead of hiring the coordinator and letting him build a staff along with his goal for a defense, and not being willing to work with the talent he had and recruit that talent to him cost him year one and ultimately led to year two debacle as well and by then it was pure survival mode.
No athletic department, Lloyd Car support, former player support was going to save him from then on out and anyone arguing otherwise has their head burried in the sand.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||You actually think Casteel would have made things different?||
So lets say they open the bank and give Casteel 800k a year.....Rich still hired 3 other db coaches to run his defense, and you think Casteel would fix that?
Not one true dline coach among them. You think it's an accident our 2 most talented position groups on defense Dline, then lber were the most under performing and led to a defense giving up the most points in school history consecutively, yearly for 3 seasons?
Oh, Casteel better then Shafer? Yeah....get back to me when you figure that one out.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan owes Rich nothing, Rich owes Michigan nothing||
It didn't work.
Blame Michigan for not accepting him, rolling out the financial red carpet..oh wait, he got more money for recruiting, got the facilities, got the total treatment to succeed from Michigan.
Blame AD Staff and support staff... You mean to tell me they didn't show up to do their jobs every day? You mean to tell me they talked bad about him and didn't support the guy running around like a bull in a china shop saying you guys don't know how to win in football, I do in a place that was very highly successfull for a very long time. Wow, color me crazy... cause if it was that bad, tell me why those support staff people weren't fired? I'm waiting.
People outside but former players, coaches and alumni didn't support him? Are you kidding me? How many supported Bo when he walked in the door and turned the world upside down with what was considered a good team for Bump coming back? Nobody except his AD until he beat ohio st.......
Rich... He hired 4 db coaches to run the defense. Fired all of Lloyd's assistants (his right), assasination style...which burnt alot of bridges immediately, his right though..., We saw tons of players leave, 36 by my count that first yr total, but Rich kept saying we will win with them and we are going to install our system now and not worry about who is here. He put out the single worst defense in school history. He put out the lowest win total in a 12 game season in school history..........., it was that bad....
Rich ran off the players he needed to win, his recruiting never took shape as half of his classes were having about 30% never make it in or gone by the end of their freshman year.
So, you can blame anything you want on Michigan, but the fact is, just like Bo, the tools were there, were given to Rich and he didn't get it done. Had Rich worked harder to endear himself to everyone as they claimed he is a genuine people person, then maybe we would be more forgiving....but the fact is, 2 wins against nd, msu and osu and multiple blow out losses, and 3-9, 5-7, 7-6 records and 6 total bigten wins in 3 yrs got him fired. Not one person who did not like him or support him caused that, or made Dave Brandon fire him.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||This is the way it's going...||
Only bad thing is you will have to buy season tickets or 3 or 4 game ticket packs to get the premium games as well. I will get pissed if I have to pay $150 for osu and stuck with $80 for eastern michigan and central nevada...you get the idea..
Prices of non premium games you can find on line for half of face value aren't going down with ad ticket prices.....so it still may come out better to get the tickets on line.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||This would be a major mistake if not done correctly||
Lesser schools stars would be contacted via the old hs coach, his friends someone...we know how that works... This would become first an sec and big12 loop hole and other conferences would have to do it to keep up......
Stronger limits would have to be put in place imho.......first I think 3.0 gpa would have to be the level to transfer without sitting.....And schools should be able to block a set number of schools and particular if they feel those schools have tampered by contacting the athletes.
|24 weeks 1 day ago||Will they celebrate a 23-0 loss to bama as well||
I hope they can celebrate so much after a loss to the tide