OT: Heisman trophy winners need babysitters, says Jameis Winston's dad
"He's supposed to have somebody around him 24/7," says Antonor Winston. "He a Heisman Trophy winner so (he's) definitely not supposed to be by (himself)."
OK, I paraphrased a little. But it sounds like dad isn't a big proponent of personal responsibility.
I thought they already had them, weren't they called "recruiting hostesses"?
They are supposed to teach kids while they grow up.
It's easier to blame others.
My parents job was to keep me out of trouble until I was 18. After that it was up to me.
He is old enough to keep himself out of trouble, I'll agree with that, but to say it's up to his parents at this point is a little silly.
Being a parent doesn't stop at 18. It is their responsibility to send their kids to college if they can afford it and continue to give them support and scold them when they do something that they shouldn't be doing.
I wonder if the FSU coaches promised their kids to be babysat and kept out of trouble.
The idea that someone else is supposed to be responsible for him is the opposite direction of where he needs to go. Life in the NFL is not going to be easy for him.
NOT to steal crab legs. That's just being unreasonable.
Why didn't someone at FSU tell him about the glory that is chinese buffet crab legs? You can have as many as you want, Jameis, and unlimited lemon butter sauce, too!
I don't think Jameis should be allowed anywhere near a babysitter.
Not to defend any of his actions, alleged or otherwise, but I cannot imagine the life of these guys when every male adult within a 20 mile radius worshiped the ground they walked on since the age of 12 or so, and then that expands to a couple hundred miles once you commit to a school like FSU.
You live in a different normal and those are the formative years of your life so all of us speak as normal people looking into his (or someone similar) life... when we walk into a restauraunt no one gives 2 shats about us - but guys like this live in a complete bubble of adulation so "adjusting" is a bit different when you are adjusting to a fantasy world.
Again not defending anything he has done - or not done but they live in a parallel universe then those of us who comment on them. There is not much they do that anyone will ever call them out as wrong ...
That's the problem. Parents are supposed to tell them when they're wrong, even if the rest of the world will not.
Edit: As BlueCube said above.
Because teenagers across the world listen to their parents ;)
It's much better for parents to say kids will be kids and ignore it. /s
yes because that is exactly what I said.
Lots of things parents say go right in one ear and out the other at 16 year old...except on MGoBlog of course.
Are you saying because he's treated like royalty and lives a different normal we should accept his divergence from what would be our, the unwashed masses, normal?
...but there are lots of athletes who get that adulation who do not fall into the endless meat-grinder that is the Jameis Winston saga.
Charles Woodson won a Heisman trophy. Was there a barage of negatively charged stories following in his wake?
(This is the part where everyone makes me look silly for the Charles Woodson related snafoo I'm not aware of where everyone was shaking their heads and saying.... Chaaarlllllles).
As I pointed out below, both Charles Woodson and Desmond Howard managed to win the Heisman trophy and lead stand up lives of which both can be very proud.
With advice from dad like that, Jameis will face an uphill battle as a superstar.
he'll be broke by the time he's 30.
I also steal crab legs when left unattended. It's sort of my thing.
"Unfortunately the crab legs we are getting are TOO fresh...they keep walking out the back door."
Sounds like he's dissapointed of his son.
The idea that college athletes now need 'handlers'/babysitters is absolutely absurd. Do they really need a walking conscious to tell them right from wrong? I'm sure Jameis (as well as most others) realizes what happened looks bad and that he is and will forever be under a spotlight as long as he remains in college.
People make mistakes. Hopefully he learns from it. But a need for a handler... No way. If you can't function in this society while making your own decisions then idk what to tell you. It's not like the guy was tricked into signing his life away. And for seemingly once the media had nothing to do with the problem. Other than the reporting after they had no input. It was just a bad choice; one that is considered a negative in 99% of societies around the globe. Man up, take the punishment, learn from your mistake and move on. No babysitter needed IMO.
Sounds like a guy who should do a little less bitching about how the rest of the world is out to get his son, and maybe instead start teaching him about something called personal responsibility.
Tell your son to man up and start taking responsibility for his own actions.
hurr durr
Personal responsibility, parents raising their kids properly, society, blah blah blah.
I don't think anyone here can relate to what its like to win a heisman trophy. I mean, yeah, don't be a douchebag. But can anyone here honestly say that they know what its like to have people watching your every move? Can you say that you'd be able to handle the pressure of sleazy fucks trying to scam you and your family on a weekly basis? Now imagine yourself at 19 trying to do that shit (if you're a teenager reading this, shut up and listen to your elders). The vast majority of 19-year olds aren't really adults, but rather just children who can legally smoke, buy porn, get tatted up, and rent carpet shampooers.
Case in point - my avatar photo was taken when I was 19. I no longer wear beer hats and drink from red cups. My loss? Perhaps. But its pretty nice to be able to afford and appreciate a real hat, and scotch from glasses instead.
Doesn't excuse breaking the law, but it does help to clarify the need for security and a 'babysitter'.
but I can name two former Michigan players that won the HT and remain relatively close to the program. Both have been part of Superbowl championship teams, one was the Superbowl MVP, and both of them have, as far as I know, led stand up lives. Lives which we could point to as lives we'd like our sons to live. Lives that don't need to be insulated from society lest they victimize society and bring harm to themselves.
Timeouts are rough man. Especially being sent to your room where there's a tv, ipod, and laptop.
Which is why my timeouts were facing the corner in the room in the house that only has a piano, a couch, and a bunch of pictures of old people. And that was usually after the belt anyway...
The mission of the Heisman is to "recognize the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity." But, so many of them get into legal trouble or at least have questionable integrity. Winston, Manziel, Newton, T. Smith, and Bush have all had issues...that's half of the last 10 winners and three of the last four. I don't think it's acceptable to give guys this award that have a track record of questionable integrity, legal troubles, under NCAA investigations, or have had previous suspensions form thier teams. This does not send a good message to young people IMO.
I think personal accountability is necessary and should be non-negotiable, yet there could be also be a way to help these kids deal with the spotlight. Maybe it should be a university's responsibility. There are more things that we probably don't see about sleaze and what-not, aside from the oft-mentioned crab legs. You shouldn't need help to resist taking extra crab legs, no matter how sumptuous. Yet maybe these guys need help filtering out all the BS like getting money for autographs, talking to agents, using their likeness for financial gain (for now), groupies, and so on. They might think only in the moment that they are helping a friend, being nice, getting what they deserve, or something else that is innocent. Some context may help them see the bigger picture which, after all, is a reason why you go to college.
Johnny Football is a great example. I barely knew who he was before the Heisman, yet now I would rather type Johnny Football than spell out his last name. He thinks he has his own solar system (ESPN sure stokes that fire) and he acts accordingly, to the distraction of many.
Is absolutely a product of his upbringing, and I don't mean as poor little rich boy. His parents being wealthy didn't force them to pack the trunk of their car with products to be signed (footballs, helmets, posters, et al) and teach him how to skirt NCAA rules. They being wealthy didn't mean they had to buy him a new car every time his current ride needed a wash (life is about disposable materialism). His parents taught him that he need not follow rules if he could figure out how to avoid them and they taught him that money is his status.
I admittedly do not have a great deal of familiarity with Johnny's upbringing. The cues he learned from his parents very likely influence his behavior today.
Yet I presume he is one in a long line of many fawned-upon youth whose parents are living vicariously through them and have the means with which to increase the odds of realizing a dream. Those many are rarely if ever seen, yet since he won the Heisman and now has national media attention, that validates what he has believed and been taught his whole life, presumably solidifying that everything he learned is not just 'not bad' but some version of ok, allowable, encouraged, expected, or "screw it, I'm Johnny Football and I don't give a ****."
Schools could presumably provide some counseling to these individuals who have a brighter spotlight on them (if they don't already). Maybe in Johnny Manziel's case he wouldn't positively respond to the involvement, yet it could be of value to some who can still be reached and positively shaped and prepared.