This will be the thread for thoughts on defensive playcalling / coaching. Again, similar threads will be created for coaching or special teams as volume permits, but this is primarily for thoughts regarding the defense.
Official Snowflake Thread: Defense
Thought the defense played reasonably well. About 7 of UConn's points came on a TO, and another 7 off that horrible punt bounce. They had trouble at times, but they played well enough to win.
The Defense played great...that is all
Hold me Desmond Morgan
I was thanking baby Jesus when he finally dropped deep enough into coverage and got the pick.
all I can say. tip of the cap to the D
Uconn really only scored 1 straight up touchdown. I'm optimistic about our d this year.
Frank Clark did some stuff
Finally, but yes he did.
True, but I don't feel too good about it going forward since that backup RT is said to be awful.
UConn had one real drive and they got 7 points. Otherwise they got zilch.
holes in the middle of the field and we still give up too many big passing plays.
Yes, and while I don't want to lack appreciation for an overall good defensive game, they are making the same mistakes over and over. Think we see the skinny post during Big Ten play? Think Joe Bolden will get challenged in pass coverage? Think Raymon is going to see alot of outs and slants? Thankfully we have a bye week to address these persistent issues.
For how bad field position wise, the defense was put in they did ok - solid not great. The secondary looked bad at times getting gashed by low level players (Uconn's top WR was OUT), the DL better than previous weeks. But it is UConn so cannot take anything out of it. We still get gashed by runs (UConn was 2nd worst in FBS entering the game) and we make every QB look like Tom Brady for at least a half. It is going to make COnnor Cook look legit. But again considering the short fields and awful turnovers by Devin they did ok. If these turnovers continue at a 2-3+ per game clip it wont matter.
UConn was 1-11 on third downs and 0-1 on fourth downs. That's a very good defensive performance.
beyer in coverage. if I coached against us I would just throw at his guy, its obvious.
So you would never play him? They'd always change the play if he was in, right?
thank god Jake Ryan might come back next game.
I'd also question Bolden in coverage. He seems a bit lost out there right now.
Lets wait until 4th and 30 to press in coverage!
26 yards but who's counting?
That's the scheme. You want to dare the QB to throw short of the marker, and then quickly tackle the WR before he can get any YAC. Gaining 26 yards on 4th and 29 did UConn no good.
What you're saying is that you want a defensive scheme where the safety can afford not to do his job and the play will still work? Sign me up!
The defense played well, but UConn is not very good either. But, it was nice to see the D shut down UConn in the 4th quarter.
Seemed to be the culprit on a few UConn passes.
Desmond Morgan: greatest ups in the history of Holland, Michigan
That was straight out of NCAA Football 08.
Does the front page have to stop bitching about EA LBs being unrealistic now?
Wonder what he was this week....looked like another tough one for the kid.
Much better this week than last. Too many open receivers in the first half. Pass rush stepped up and DB's clamped down in the second half and we saw dividends.
the win. Secondary is shaky and we seem to lack high athleticism.
We are just OK on D.
We gave up only 206 yards, a vast improvement over the last two games. Given the fact that UConn only managed to run 57 plays on offense, that means we gave up about 3.6 yards per play, which is also a big improvement. I will definitely take that going into the conference schedule.
179 yards before the last play
Oh yeah. And while it doesn't matter, this was another week of massive holding by the opposition on some plays. I thought the defense played reasonably well, though pass coverage by LBs was suspect even with the Morgan INT.
Desmond Morgan FTW.
Good halftime adjustments by Mattison.
If not for the defense Michigan would have lost to two of the worst college football teams in the last two weeks. You switch out Joe Bolden for Jake Ryan and this defense looks dang good going into Big Ten play. But I will say this, I think Chris Wormley needs more snaps. Looked to be making plays when Michigan needed them.
I'm guessing the Michigan State game.
Thinking of how hard Sparty will be targeting Ryan's knee in that game. I'd almost rather he waits another week.
We still can't cover a soul, and our defensive line only looks decent when goign up against the worst offensive line in the country. So, no, this game doesnt make me feel any better about our defense.
That kind of pessimism belongs in the Offense Thread 1 post down.
Uh, I'm talking about the defense, not the offense. It's not pessimism, it's fact.
Maybe you should watch the second half
They played pretty damn good tonight all things considered. Clark lived up to the hype tonight and the boys kept us in it . Hats off.
Defense did everything it had to against an inferior opponent. Just about what it should have been.
Though I am a bit concerned about the backfield. Naturally, an under-talented UConn team won't stretch the defense; on that last play, though, you can see that Avery was completely burned by the receiver (85 or 86, couldn't tell, very tall) and that a good throw to that receiver would've resulted in a UConn TD. Good thing that wasn't the read.
Please stop assigning blame on single players when you don't know the playcall. It just doesn't make any sense.
You could go through any game played by any team and point out plays that could have turned out differently. The call on that last play was to stop UConn from getting a first down. It did successfully. Not knowing any more makes everything conjecture.
I know UConn's offense isn't very good, but I thought the defense did reasonably well all things considered. Despite what the announcers were saying, UConn isn't the worst team in FBS, not by a long shot.
Umm, I'm not sure anyone is hiding behind a computer if his name is on that.
Joey Bosa can back that shit up in about 8 weeks? I wonder?
So, we don't want to fire Mattison this week? Okay, maybe next week we can all call for his head again.
with Mattison was on UCONN's one td, the playcall was asking Wormley to cover the RB out of the backfield. That defensive playcall was doomed before the play even started.
They had one real drive and we played pretty damn well considering the positions turnovers, punts and kicks out of bounds put the defense in. They clearly made adjustments from last week and improved.
My only nitpick is Bolden (and maybe other LBs) still is not carrying the TE down the seam. We gave up a few throws as a result. Otherwise it was a solid performance and the win belongs to them.
You guys are homers
our D gave up 24 to one of the worst teams in football
it's going to be a long season
agree but devin gave the 7 on the fumble. they locked up in the 4th, uconn was bad on offense though, early we sucked.
They had like 4 3 and outs in a row before they gave up the one drive.
Eric mangusson, devin and Borges " scored" one of the Tds and the other one was the carom of our punt return team. I would put the first td on the d but the other two were largely do to other folks.
post sarcastic. 14 of those points were not on the defense, the defense gave up one scoring drive the entire game. 206 yards allowed for the game is a good defensive effort.
are pathetic we should be shutting out teams like akron and uconn
206 yds for the game almost beat us.
game you were watching, the pass rush looked much better tonight. It was only UCONN, but at least it is a start to give the d-line more confidence.
Take the rest of the night off. Things will feel better in the morning.
. . . we might have a shutout. You keep giving them the ball in good field position without scoring, you build their confidence.
But that's the offense fault 4 TO and u still win the game u shut up and take the win defense played the best game of the season in my opinion
EDIT: Whoops, thought you were talking to me.
May be time to step away from the keyboard for the night.
(1) UConn scored 21, not 24; (2) if you take out the last play, where we were playing to keep them short of 29 yards, the D gave up less than 200 yards. That is a good performance against anyone; (3) 7 points came off a fumble, so now it's own to 14; (4) another 7 came with them starting at our 11 yard line.
In summation, you are wrong.
no, i am not
our D can't make plays
hurries? sacks? 1 a game maybe?
3rd down stops?
Our D had a ton of 3rd down stops tonight. And at least two sacks.
Have you had too much to drink by chance? If people want to panic over the offense after the last 2 weeks that is reasonable, but the defense played well tonight.
One third down conversion one too many
Morgan content to go down in a heap at the 12 after that pick? WTF
Can't hold opposing offense to under 200 yards?
Team is 5-7 at best.
Pipkins lacking top-end speed.
Same with QWash.
Especially 2nd half. You didn't even have the score right, guy.
4 sacks. Held UConn to 1-11 on 3rd down. Put down the bottle friend.
R u fuckn kiddn me the defense gets A after this game the offense has been screwing them over the past few weeks and ur blaming them??
Greg Mattison did his job this week.
we should be putting up 70 like that team down there did
and the MSU ND shows ND was overrated as was our win
the defense. The defense played well tonight. Pass rush was actually there, which was nice to see.
Offense was horrible, no doubt about that, the D saved UM from an upset.
MSU's defense was expected to be very good, and there hasn't been any evidence to reject that notion yet.
If the MSU's defense is real, they'll stay in some games against top competition. On the flip side, the MSU offense will keep some otherwise inferior teams in games, and a few Sparty, No!s are almost a given this year.
is that you can switch "MSU" for "Michigan" and it applys. We are State this year. I have to go cry.... Our offense is totally allowing teams to become confident.
and I don't think today counts because Towson had a sack-a-palooza on UConn, we are as good as we were last year on D. If Jake Ryan comes back to 100%, our defense will be Top 20 again. If he doesn't, we need a few guys to step up consistently (maybe Clark, Wormley, Godin, Ojemudia, and Beyer) to be able to put teams away and cause turnovers.
Good. 1TD came on an offensive Fumble. Another was set up by that punt that bounced off one of our guys..... Got to figure on giving up at least one per game..
200 yards and 12 first downs is fine good against anyone. Good job defense. Way to show up against a terrible second string RT, Frank Clark. Please do that against you know, good players. And nice catch, Desmond Morgan. And you executed a zone drop!
I said the dline would come out looking good, akron and nd were short quick pass teams. its not pressure that's our issue, its not playing press coverage much if at all.
I hope the coaches see that every team we have played has attacked the soft zone behind the LB,s. it seems J Ross is getting picked on a lot, It was great to see Morgan get back and steal one, but we have a lot so work to do. GO BLUE!!
Defense did their job today. Played tough and brought pressure.
Pass rush was vastly improved. Only gripe was Avery at corner really.
But they are hardly to blame for tonight's debacle. In fact, one of the only bright spots tonight...the only time I was really disappointed was UConn's second TD drive. Michigan very nearly gave up the TD that was overturned by video review...and then responded by giving up the TD anyway.
But yeah, other than that, defense was not the problem tonight.
Also, thank God for Morgan's INT. And Clark's pass rush. Finally.
Morgan, fantastic! Bolden take notes.
- He has more opportunities to make stops there but teams are going to continue targeting the long ball that should have been a TD against Avery.
- That said, I'm glad Avery is back.
- Bolden is also being targeted in pass coverage for the second straight game
- 4th and 30, why did our coverage guys all play on the line of scrimmage? Serious question.
- I don't know which play but at one point it looked like we had two linebackers standing at the line of scrimmage spying the QB with no eligible receivers within a mile.
- Unfortunately, a very quiet game from Ross
Frank Clark was the one dropping back in coverage as an adjustment to receivers finding seems, correct? Was that the same adjustment that got Wormley burned for the TD?
Desmond Morgan. Quite aside from a truly spectacular interception tonight, I've been very impressed by him so far this season, even if the UFRs don't agree as much. He seems to be in position to make a lot of plays, I don't see as many stupid mental errors, and when he makes contact, that ball carrier go backwards.
This. Times 10. Desmond appears to be turning into a reliable and sturdy MLB. He doesn't seem to have the flash all the time (fabulous interception tonight aside), but he is always around the ball carrier and making plays. Additionally, I completely agree with what you said re: when he makes contact. He's one of the first LB's I feel like we've had in a while that really does DELIVER the blow to the opponent. He always seems to be screaming to his assignment. One thing I will always remember from my cfb days was that coaches would say "If you're going to make a mistake on a play, make the mistake at 90 MPH." Desmond seems to be living that type of mantra, and that is what I want from my MLB.
The defense showed up tonight. Countess played great like always, and we started seeing some pressure on the QB. They are hardly to blame tonight. I really only attribute 7 of UConn's points as being on the defense. They got screwed and put in a bad spot with that muffed punt, and obviously Gardner's fumble 6 accounted for the other 7.
Mattison's boys rebounded tonight. They get my stamp of approval.
1. Desmond Morgan is maturing into a good leader in the back of the D. Great hands on that INT. Good vision on the return, also.
2. We have very good young talent on our roster. Ojemudia and Wormley were a nice change of pace, along with Frank Clark in the 4th Quarter.
3. Still a little concerned that we're playing such soft coverage on the outside. When we've pressed, we haven't been beaten, and we've gift-wrapped lots of yardage with underneath throws to the sideline. The CB is right there when the ball comes, but he's always on the other side of the receiver. Easy catches for 8-13 yards regularly.
4. Everyone will bitch about giving up 26 on a 4th and 29, but the play worked exactly as drawn up on defense. The safeties stayed on the down line and met the receiver at the point of the catch. No chance to make it past them because they allowed the play to be in front of them. I know it was close, but it worked just as it was drawn up. Good patience on that one. A Hail Mary would have scared me more. Too many chances for weird catch, PI, etc.
5. This defense is only going to get better in a few weeks when Jake MF Ryan returns. Thankfully, that's right about when I get really nervous about our opponents.
Get any pressure on Akron or Uconn, but Gardner always seemed to be under pressure.
Pressure was much better tonight. Front four was doing a much better job of getting off blocks.
The defense played pretty good against a bad team with two of its best players out with injury. Not the most glowing review. Still think we just have a bunch of guys on D this year. Countess may be a playmaker.
I had to DVR the game and just finished watching it--I really cannot believe there are posters on here complaining about the defense. Some people are never satisfied, I guess.
He is a good slot guy, and his presence should allow Countess to play outside later this year. Bolden looks lost in pass coverage (I think that he is best in the Middle), and Mario made some hay from the DE position. This unit played pretty well overall, and now we will get to see how they handle a mobile QB, as Minny has a pretty good one. I would think that it will be a big test for our linebacking crew, and James Ross III could be a key in two weeks.
Morgan wasn't good at dropping into coverage all night but his pick was a game changer. The defense played well despite the positions they were put in. I want to see more Ojemudia.
I saw him beat a couple blocks (from the LT!) for pressure.
This is the curse of playing a team as bad as UConn. If the defense plays well (which they did), it is just UConn. If they play poorly (as the offense did), PANIC. The defense did play very well. I would like to see Michigan force more turnovers. They did a great job of forcing 4 straight 3 and outs, but in the process lost 20 yards of field position (I know, see Offense bitch fest and special teams craptacular). The one turnover they forced allowed Michigan to win the game. Without that TO, I am not sure that Michigan wins.
At the game, the defense looked pretty good. Got bailed out by a couple of drops, but they held UCONN to only one drive down the field. This year, the DEFENSE has been responsible for 6 points against CMU, 23 against ND, 14 against Akron, and 7 against UCONN. I'm hardly worried
UConn did have the one decent drive to set up a field goal try. The coverage was lax at times but overall a good game for the D.
to measure the difference HAD our offense had any semblence of power. If the offense could EVER get up by 3 scores, say 17 - 0, then the other team is going to change their offensive calls. When Gardner throws a pick on the FIRST drive ... it just fires the whole team up. And after that Devin couldn't hit even a 5 yard pass. He lost ALL confidence and UConn knew. They didn't need to respect the pass.
The defense is fine right now. I don't think our safety blitz from 10 yards off the LOS doesn't makes any sense ... but other than that - I think the defense has improved over last year.
I thought it looked pretty good. There was a pretty good progression from what Mattison said last week to what showed up on the field. Caveat for level of competition, but it was the kind of performance i'd expect to see. I still don't understand the consistently soft coverage, but i assume there's a reason for it.