NDNation: it's unfair that Michigan didn't travel as much as us

Submitted by jmblue on

These guys never fail to deliver unintentional comedy.

Apparently, the "competitive imbalance" caused by the fact that Notre Dame took one of those aeroplane machines to California in November, which we did not do, was too much for them to overcome when they played us.

http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?b=football;pid=280640;d=this

Gobluegr

November 27th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^

Michigan 10-2 Pitt 5-6 Purdue 6-6 Wake Forest 6-6 Stanford 11-1 Michigan road games Northwestern 6-6 MSU 10-2 Iowa 7-5 Illinois 6-6 Iowa, MSU, and Illinois are all difficult places to play. While Michigan was the only hostile environment for ND.

BlueDragon

November 27th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^

It would appear the psyche of NDNation, subjected to 20 years of mediocrity, is lashing out at any absurd piece of evidence it can concoct to justify their team's ongoing failure to launch/wake up the echoes/return to glory.

PurpleStuff

November 27th, 2011 at 3:16 PM ^

The guys covering the game last night pointed out that Andrew Luck is just the third QB to beat ND three times in a row (Matt Leinart and Purdue's Mike Phipps were the others).  Denard has a chance to become number four just a few months from now.

Monocle Smile

November 27th, 2011 at 3:16 PM ^

NDNation is turning (turned?) into RCMB. First the "ND is over because they let black kids play football" post that showed up weeks ago, and now this. You'd think divine intervention would render these "issues" moot.

HAILtoBO

November 27th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

They went 3-2 on the road... Losing to Stanford and Team 132 UTL. Their 3 wins were against the powerful Wake Forest (6-6), the beastly Purdue Boilermakers (6-6), and the unstoppable Pitt Panthers (5-6 with a game against Syracuse next weekend). They can complain all they want. They lost 2 games on the road and 2 games at home against USF and USC. USF went 5-6 with one game to go against WV. Join the B1G and you would have less to complain about and more of we need to find ourselves a coach.

PurpleStuff

November 27th, 2011 at 3:35 PM ^

They beat 4-8 BC by 2 at home, beat Wake by 7, and beat Pitt by 3.  And as far as I know they lose a ton of talent next year.  Now that Kelly has benched/alienated a second QB, I don't see how they start moving upward any time soon.

koolaid

November 27th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^

Brian Kelly was able to get Cincinatti to win 13 games in a season, only to lose to Florida by 20 points in a BCS bowl (the only game he didn't coach for them that season).  Notre Dame beat USC last year with Tommy Rees starting.  Truly, if I had to guess anything, I would guess that they will be decent no matter who is the QB.

JClay

November 27th, 2011 at 3:21 PM ^

They lost to South Florida at home. They lost to USC, at home. They took a freaking bus to lose to Michigan, and it wasn't the plane ride that cost them the win against Stanford, it's that Stanford has a much, much better football team. Notre Dame is the most delusional fanbase on earth. JOIN A DAMN CONFERENCE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TRAVEL SO MUCH. What do they expect: an NCAA rule that every team in the country go cross-country twice a season because Notre Dame has---, er um, CHOOSES to?

And as for the "they book all their non-conference games at home against non-BCS patsies" argument... you mean aside from Notre Dame, right? And Alabama? And UConn that we're going to in 2013, right? Oh, and Air Force, too, because lord knows how much ND values beating up on service academies.

Wolvie3758

November 27th, 2011 at 3:19 PM ^

so whats their suggestion? ND get a BCS with 4 losses..ANOTHER "Special" ND Rule..as long as they are not in a conference they are irrelevant in college football...you made YOUR bed now Lie in it..

M-Dog

November 27th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^

TING!!!

You hit the nail on the head.  They want to go to a BCS bowl with 4 losses.  That's what they want.  Cause they're Notre Dame.  

They're looking for some mythical 1940's reporter with a trench coat and giant flash bulb camera to sweep onto the scene and declare them the greatest team ever and therefore an automatic BCS qualifier.  They really believe this.

M-Dog

November 27th, 2011 at 8:17 PM ^

TING!!!

You hit the nail on the head.  They want to go to a BCS bowl with 4 losses.  That's what they want.  Cause they're Notre Dame.  

They're looking for some mythical 1940's reporter with a trench coat and giant flash bulb camera to sweep onto the scene and declare them the greatest team ever and therefore an automatic BCS qualifier.  They really believe this.

Mr Miggle

November 27th, 2011 at 3:26 PM ^

Calling for the NCAA to force teams to play more road games. ND only played 3 away games last season, 7 at home and 2 neutral sites. In 2009 they played 8 home games and 4 on the road. But this year they only played 6 home games and blame us and the NCAA.

willywill9

November 27th, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^

Idiots.... they're going to Ireland next fall... should we do that too?  Then @ USC. This is a ridiculous "unfairness" argument, seeing that they're doing it to themselves.

I just looked at their schedule next year in fact, and they're in for a world of hurt:

 

2012

9-1 Navy @Dublin, Ireland
9-8 Purdue
9-15 @ Michigan State 
9-22 Michigan 
10-6 vs. Miami FL @Chicago, IL- Soldier Field
10-13 Stanford 
10-20 Brigham Young
10-27 @ Oklahoma
 
11-3 
Pittsburgh
11-10 @ Boston College 
11-17 Wake Forest 
11-24 @ Southern California

turtleboy

November 27th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^

In 2010 ND played 3 road games, and 7 home games and played Army and Navy at neutral venues. They scheduled such stellar competition as Tulsa, Western Michigan, and Utah at home and lost to Tulsa. Pot meet kettle.

brandanomano

November 27th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^

They pick their entire schedule, have their own television contract, and don't have to give any of their revenue back to a conference. They have to find something to complain about because they're not very good, but the only things to complain about are nonsense like this. 

Just admit that your football team isn't good already. Jesus.

stmccoy

November 27th, 2011 at 3:57 PM ^

What a ludicrous argument.  ND doesn't play in a conference.  They get 100% control of who they play and where.  Michigan doesn't have the same luxury outside of 4 non-conference games.  Figure it out Domer fan. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

November 27th, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^

I was gonna say THEN JOIN A FUCKING CONFERENCE YOU FUCKING DICKFUCKS but I see the idea has been posted already.  How surprising.  Leave it to the most self-centered, delusional, world-revolves-around-the-sun-that-shines-out-of-our-ass fanbase to come up with a problem created by their insistence on not playing ball with everyone else and then expect that the world should accommodate that and bend for them instead of the other way around.

ontblue

November 27th, 2011 at 4:27 PM ^

You're Lou Holtz, right ???  You sound just like him.

If you're not Lou "Spitz" Holtz I would have to guess it's his koolaid you've been drinking.

CompleteLunacy

November 27th, 2011 at 6:27 PM ^

Easiest rebuttal ever: if they had money riding on the game, why oh why did they callback 2 michigan tds due to shady replay review and suddenly-we-are-gonna-call-holding-and-personal-foul penalties that would have practically sealed the game before ohio ever got the ball back?
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oriental andrew

November 27th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^

that's a silly argument and really just sour grapes.  In fact, since the schedule was expanded to 12 regular season games, the following teams (in addition to Michigan) have played 8 home games at some point:

  • michigan state
  • nebraska
  • alabama
  • va tech
  • lsu
  • penn st
  • ohio st
  • florida st
  • kansas st

Note: Not a comprehensive list.  I don't feel like going through EVERY FBS school schedule!  Kinda-sorta are teams like Oklahoma/Texas and Florida/Georgia, who each regularly have 7 true home games and the annual neutral site games in Dallas and Jacksonville, respectively.  

So it's not like Michigan is pulling some unheard of thing that flies in the face of fair play.  It's a common occurrence amongst national powers.  That said, I really wouldn't mind getting back to the days of the intersectional home-and-home matchups like we had with Colorado, Syracuse, Washington, UCLA, Oregon, etc (at least, those are some of the ones I can recall since I became a fan in the early-mid 90s).  Let's go play a Pac12 team like UCLA, Cal, or ASU.  Let's do it against an ACC team like Maryland. 

RayIsaac91

November 27th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^

What they are really bitching about is that Stanford used to be a scheduled W. They should have cancelled that series as soon as Harbaugh beat USC as a 40 point dog.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but for awhile we were playing Ohio, PSU and ND either all at home or all on the road. I remember there was talk about switching the ND game to avoid that situation but ND refused. So...f*ck off biatches.

True Blue Grit

November 27th, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^

who are always looking for excuses why their pathetic team keeps under-achieving. Either way, I could care less.  We'll beat them in South Bend.  We'll beat them in Ann Arbor.  Discussion over.