Michigan opens at -4 against BYU

Submitted by Balrog_of_Morgoth on

This is somewhat surprising considering how good BYU has looked even with their backup QB. Keep in mind that this is a preliminary line (probably an offshore book) and none of the major books have released their lines yet. However, the other books will likely be close to this at least if the past is a good indicator.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/teams/team-page.cfm/team/michigan

Edit: The Wynn just opened at Michigan -5.

turtleboy

September 20th, 2015 at 5:24 PM ^

They're still trying to find their identity. Their offense has changed from game to game, and they played 3 different qbs in the first 2 games. I think they nearly doubled their pass attempts vs UCLA, but netted only 2 offensive touchdowns. They could end up being good, but I really couldn't guess what type of offense they'll show up in 2A with. I like our defense vs their offense, but I'm moot sold on our passing game vs their pass defense. It really feels like a tossup game, with the edge going to the home team.

Muttley

September 21st, 2015 at 1:12 AM ^

that can beat anyone but perhaps the elite on a given day, then I think you have to say yes.

Forget the W/Ls, BYU went to the wire with three Top 40ish teams, and two were on the road.  Further, UCLA is now ranked in the Top 10.  Perhaps one of those teams may turn out not to be Top 40ish, but no way will all three be grossly overrated.

OTOH, Utah has played no one but us, so using them as a benchmark for us leaves a lot more uncertainty.

I expect to win because of Harbaugh! (and maize colored glasses), not because of a comparison of play to date.

alum96

September 21st, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^

What do you think BYU fans are saying about Michigan?

CougarDevotee is posting "Is Michigan really any good?  They played 2 awful teams for their wins and the 1 quality team they played they were down 24-10 until the closing moments. I watched their QB in a few of these games and he can't hit the broadside of a barn past 10 yards, and the 1 legit rush defense they played (Utah) completely stymied them."

MCMOST

September 20th, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^

Wolverines Run Offense vs BYU Run Defense - Advantage Wolverines; BYU Offense vs Wolverine Defense - Even....I look for a high level of physicality and team with the least amount of turnovers wins!!!!

Ray

September 20th, 2015 at 5:14 PM ^

We could beat them and remain unranked due to the assumption that they were ranked too high. I remain convinced though that we will crack the top 15 this year. A win against either of our two biggest rivals will guarantee that, and possibly push us higher. In any case, if we go 8-4 or 9-3 we'll certainly end ranked.

HermosaBlue

September 20th, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^

They were really only wrong if Michigan -34 didn't produce a relatively even distribution of bets.

Honestly, Vegas isn't really trying to predict the actual point spread, they're trying to predict the point spread that creates a 50/50 bet distribution where losers pay winners, Vegas takes their vig, and the house doesn't have to come out of pocket to pay winners.

Usually, the Vegas line is very close to the actual point spread result, but that's a secondary effect, rather than the goal.



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Rodriguesqe

September 20th, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

I watched a little bit of BYU's game last night and it looked like they had some pretty good skill players on offense. looked more explosive than ours, which isn't saying a ton. Thanks Hoke...

Leaders And Best

September 20th, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

BYU's offense moved the ball against what is generally perceived as one of the best defenses in the country. They did lose DT Eddie Vanderdoes for the season during Week 1, but I don't think UCLA's defense will fall apart with just that one loss. BYU's lead RB averaged over 6 YPC last night.

SalvatoreQuattro

September 20th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^

But explosive they aren't. The run game did okay, but UCLA's front isn't real physical.

BYU is a good team that can definitely beat Michigan, but they are a lot like Utah, except that they have better depth at WR and lack a Booker.

It's going to be a real challenge to beat them and Michigan as a whole has to play their best yet to beat them.

True Blue Grit

September 20th, 2015 at 4:35 PM ^

Especially after watching us yesterday on offense.  The passing game needs to show up next Saturday, cause BYU is going to try and limit our running game.  Sounds like the same strategy most teams have used against Michigan over the last number of years.  But, it's largely worked.  

Perkis-Size Me

September 20th, 2015 at 7:51 PM ^

See I can't buy into that. Why wait until now? Utah was supposed to be a darn good team when we played them, and beating them would've set the tone for the rest of the season. Why hold back against them just to open up against BYU?



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991GT3

September 20th, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^

consider BYU a 7 point better team even though they are listed as 4 point favorites.. However, since MIchigan is at home that is usually a 3 to 3 1/2 point advantage.

If Michigan is able to run the ball they will have a good chance to win this game. If not, stick a fork in them.

shoes

September 20th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^

The first 3 or 4 weeks of college games are the toughest for the oddsmakers to set the lines. There are teams playing outside of conference, in some cases outside of the geographical area, and/or with no common opponents. Add in the calculus about returning starters, and how to evaluate the quality of replacements, and there is a lot of guesswork. While the books' goal is to get an equal amount bet on each side and they will adjust lines to do so, they occasionally get caught in a game where a large majority play one side and the line adjustment either isn't enough to balance it, or it allows some pros to "middle" the game: say Mich opens at -4 and money pours in on BYU to the point where they drop it to Mich -1 (this would be a huge move). In that case, some gamblers will play Utah +4 and then jump on Mich -1. If Mich wins by a FG, they win both ways.

It's rare but books occasionally will lose a lot of money on a game that they have miscaculated the odds on.

BlueinLansing

September 20th, 2015 at 7:15 PM ^

but this is a pretty suprising line given what I've seen of both of these two teams.  Betters like what they see from Michigan more than I do thats for certain.

 

I'd need at least 6 to take Michigan with my money.

UM Fan from Sydney

September 20th, 2015 at 8:52 PM ^

Well, it is essentially one point considering the home team gets three automatically for being the home team, at least I believe that is the process.



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RLARCADIACA

September 20th, 2015 at 8:59 PM ^

My son and I were up close at the Night Game at the Rose Bowl last night. BYU frustrated UCLA not so much their Defense which did in reality fluster Chose Rosen, but BYUs offense which seemed to at will have the short pass open all night. Realistically UCLAs defense took a hit when one of their leading LBs was booted for what all saw as a fake leading with his helmet that just hit grass and no man. UCLAs d picked it up a bit in the 4th but it was the running game that won it for the Bruins, 296 yards running 219 by Paul Perkins, BYU can be run against and Michigan has a good enough O line and backs to take advantage of that maybe not as successful as UCLA but clearly enough to win if the D stops the short pass.

massblue

September 20th, 2015 at 9:30 PM ^

The game will not be that close.  UM 31 - BYU 14.  First, BYU is not that impressive.  We saw Neb's defense against Miami. it is not that good.  BYU was lucky in both wins and somewhat unlucky in the loss.  Could be easily 0-3.  Second, they have played three games in 3 different time zones.  They will be tired and are not as healthy as us.

markusr2007

September 20th, 2015 at 9:58 PM ^

Playing football games at 9:00 am PST screws you up. Many of these guys have to take a dump at kickoff, and it is all they are thinking about for 45 minutes- getting into halftime locker room without an accident.



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JamieH

September 20th, 2015 at 10:00 PM ^

if I were going to gamble on this game I think I would put money on BYU.  Not that I don't believe in Harbaugh, but I think Michigan's fate in this game really come down to Rudock.  If he plays well we win.  If he plays like he did against UNLV, egads.   


Then again, it is possible that our defense is really that good and we don't need Rudock to play well to win.  BYU isn't starting a very experienced QB.  I guess we'll see.  

umrev08

September 20th, 2015 at 10:19 PM ^

1. UCLA threw 3 interceptions right in the red zone. That kept the score much closer than it should have been, even if you remove 1-2 of those interceptions.

2. BYU used a last second hail mary to beat a pretty stagnant Nebraska team (IMO).

3. Since the Utah game, I'm guessing Harbaugh has been implementing more of his system, but we still haven't seen much of it on the field - mostly because we've been up by multiple scores for both games. At least we know that BYU has thrown everything in their playbook out there so far.

 

I'm not going to make bets on the game, but I think if Rudock limits the turnovers (even if he has just an average performance) then I think we can win it. 

Bleedmaizeblue

September 20th, 2015 at 11:46 PM ^

Our passing game needs to be more in sync, it seems to just be poorly executed in the last 2 games. If we can do that and Smith runs like he did against OSU (NTOSU) then we really have a chance to win this game



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mgoblue0970

September 20th, 2015 at 11:50 PM ^

Not a surprise... you get 2.5 just for being at home.  That means Vegas thinks Michigan's turnover prone QB and inconsistent running game is worth 1.5 point win.