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This defense usually pads…

This defense usually pads their numbers against weak teams causing them to statistically be rated high but if the game is on the line they fold like a cheap suit. The only game I can remember the defense winning is the Indiana game when they made a stop at the goal line. Against good teams, they are an average defense. Not many are willing to say this but it is fact. I could point to several games last year when the defense caved despite us having  good leads

Teams are exploiting this mano mano defensive philosophy. Either DB changes or it will be a long season. What we saw today was pathetic. A freshman QB looking like Ton Brady against our vaunted defense.

 

Poor Shea was running for…

Poor Shea was running for his life on most of his passes. When he had time (i.e. touchdown pass to PJ) he was right on the money. Also, many of the good runs were directly related to Western's poor tackling and not the OL opening holes for the RB's. The OL has a very long way to go in a very short time.

JH leaves when HE wants to…

JH leaves when HE wants to leave. That's a given. The other given is Michigan can't compete against the elite football teams. Schools like Alabama, OSU, Clemson and Oklahoma recruit better and are structured for success. Even at Stanford he wasn't in consideration for the National Championship. He had good solid teams but not elite and but for a star QB (Luck) they were average.

As much as I love my school, I know they don't belong in the upper echelons of college football. They will entertain this year and come late December they will be playing in a nobody bowl. It is what it is.

We need to be fair to…

We need to be fair to Michigan as a football team. Our expectations are they will perform on the level of Alabama, OSU, Clemson, Oklahoma or other teams in the top ten. They can't and won't. Our coaching staff is dominated by nepotism, past friendships and fired coordinators. What we have in Schembecler hall is a fraternity club. They glad hand and back slap one another. OTOH, top teams coaching staffs are realistic and uncompromising in their assessment of talent and coaching. It's business and nothing more. No loyalties or compromising whether coach or player. You produce or you're gone. 

So don't expect much more than what we are seeing. Michigan is an above average football team destined to play in a so so bowl but maintain the illusion they are a top tier team. The next three games they will whack inferior football teams by wide margins and enthuse the fan base again. It keeps the fans buying tickets and most of us watching. In the end they will be a 8-4 team which is where they should be.

I agree with much of what…

I agree with much of what you post. I would also point out that the OL was being pushed back into the QB pocket and Shea didn't have a good field of vision or passing lanes. The only time he had these is when they went to a quick pass. Coaching competency was a high factor in this game. Our entire coaching staff was out coached by ND. I believe if we had the MSU coaching staff we would have won the game.

I agree, cut Brian and the…

I agree, cut Brian and the Board some slack. They are working through a lot of issues getting ready for the football season in four weeks. That said, I find the new format difficult to navigate. Hopefully with more frequent use, it'll become easier.

Other than being a five star…

Other than being a five star out of high school, what has he done? He has a lot to prove this season assuming he wins the starting job

For whatever reason,

we tend to overrate MIchigan QB's. I hope that's not the case with Milton but I am beginning to think its a curse.

Apparently it is almost 100% sure

the coaches this year will vote to change the transfer rule requiring sitting out one season, why would the NCAA want to stiff these kids?

Besides, even if elegible, who's to say he will be the starter come this season. I think too much time is being spent on this issue.

Put me down as one alum

who was skeptical about JB. However, I listened to his interview after the loss to Villanova and  not only was I impressed with the man as our coach but proud that he is our coach. Sometimes winning isn't everything. The man is pure class. BTW, I can also say that about Jay Wright.

 

Sadly, the TV ratings for the game was the lowest in history for a NCAA final game.

Not if his hands are dirty

Let's not forget his brother was hired by the University and Shea did a great deal of lobbying to recruits. Hope Shea and his attorney have explanations to rebut aand put into context these facts.

Dairy queen, good post. However

I would argue that Don Brown needs to step up as well. It is axiomatic that defenses win championships. Brown's defenses cough up leads in the fourth quarter. Time and time again, they have had an opportunity to win games with a stout defense and almost in every instances they blew it.

Also, JH is not the QB whisperer that many think he is. At the U. of SD he was blessed with a fast QB who could run and throw the ball. It was a run and shoot offense. He was so good he played in the NFL. With Luck that was a no brainer. Luck would have succeeded under any coach. At SF he had Smith and Kapernick. He traded Smith away and we all know where Kap is. The reason why SF succeeded under JH is because the team was loaded with talent.

I am not saying JH is bad coach. He is a good. But to expect him to out coach Saban, Debo, Myers or even D'Antonio is expecting way too much from him. Unless he changes his coaching philosphy to better suit college football and becomes willing to let family and friends go if they don't perform, accept mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

Terrific hire

He has in depth knowledge of how football is played in the SEC. It can only make the Michigan team and coached better.

Its hard to keep a stiff upper lip

watching Michigan football these days. A world of talent but increasingly poor results. Its coaching, coaching coaching. A long time SEC coach should be most welcomed and will have a positive affect on all other staff coaches.

Don't people realize

that if anything pro football is beginning copy college football for offensive schemes? Other running QB's the pro game is being trandformed into elite college offenses. The old line up behind the center has gone the way of the doodo bird.

Even JH has now recognized this. So why do we need former pro OC? Hasn't Drevno and Pep proved it is not the way to go?

This would be a terrific hire

His success as an offensive mind is not in ddispute. More importantly, because of his familiarity of the SEC on how they recruit, identify talent, develop talent and scheme teams it would be a huge advantage for MIchigan to have him on their staff. The reality is the SEC plays the best football and Michigan/JH can learn a lot from him.

In short, his addition will make Michigan a better football team. 

College football today is a business

and elite education schools cannot compete. It is a fact now and going forward. MIchigan can make inroads but at the end of the day, the benefits for coming to Michigan is a superior education, a successful alumni organization and outstanding networking contacts. Football is secondary. With AL. Clemson, OSU, Georgia and others it all about football and only football.

When Saban recruits, he shows the recruits a check which represents what Al players in the NFL are making as a total of the group. This is the attraction. Not that MIchigan has a great business or engineering school.

You will not see a top 20 college in academics win a national championship. Accept it.Enjoy the good football but it will never be like the football factories.

Shea Patterson

will need to show and convince the NCAA his submittal is with clean hands. His early enrollment, his brothers hire, his texts to inquirying recruits will be examined very closely. He will need support from the University that he was in the dark as much as the other recruits.

Knowing what we NOW know about CTE

it's smart to pick the NFL over an elite education? Seriously?

BTW, when I wrote "sadly" it was for MIchigan recruiting.

Michigan's offensive has a development

problem with elite players. I believe coaching is the reason. Recruits seem to be aware of it. If they come, the attraction is an elite education in whatever field they choose. Sadly, most are looking to the NFL with education secondary.

When Enos was dismissed from the Arkansas

job that voided the non compete clause allowing him to go to Alabama.

His job sounds like

Jared Kushner's job.

Someone who knows football

said, "you are what your record says it is". If you're happy with our record against OSU and MSU, you're correct.  Many complaining about the coaching are whiners.

But if you're not happy with the record, then calling out coaching is appropriate given the caliber of players the roster has.

I suspect if JH was asked to grade his offense coaching staff over the past two seasons, it will give them poor grades. Otherwise he would not have hired Enos and others to shore up the offense.

Until JH clarifies

the roles of Hamilton and Drevno, all hiring for the offensive side of the ball will be tenuous. Why should Enos or any other recently hired offense assistant stick around if Drevno and Hamilton still have the ultimate authority. If they stay and the offense craters as it did in 2017 the stench will be on them as well.

Under those circumstances, the Alabama job is infinitely better.

Michigan football gets all the attention

but Michigan basketball delivers. Hopefully, the football staff will find their bearings and deliver as well.

Attribute that to the four hour

practice sessions whch are unheard of in college football. The is the reason why we fade in the latter part of the season. AND yes the college game has passed JH by. His pro-style offense doesn't work in college football because all the high schools play shotgun and all that comes with it.

I certainly agree that coaching

is very suspect regarding the offense. We should not give a pass to Don Brown's defense. They were spotted to 16 point lead and yet again they could not hold it. In the last two years we have lost seven striaght games at the end of the season. There is failure all around including what appears to be classless act of JH not crossing the field to shake SC coach hand. 

Musscamp in the post game interview gave a shot back by stating football tradition and history has little to do how you play on the field. Our entire coaching staff needs to be reviewed. We need an outside receiver coach, a QB coach and a new OC if JH wants to keep his job.

Why isn't the grade issue

flushed out before spending all this time on the transfer?

Ranked in the top four

with these three players? I hope you're right. Unfortunately I must remind you Miss with these three players in 2017 was 6-6 and we were unranked at the end of the season. Though I believe they are good, I don't believe they are miracle workers.

Not sure they can transfer

to another SEC school if the SEC prevents it. This is assuming they can get by the NCAA rules as well.

Nothing has really changed.

I believe Harbaugh is also

improving from year to year just as expected of his players. He's handling the press better and sending the right message to the opposing team as well as the players.

Patterson was 6-6 this year

Though I think he is better than Peters, he will not make much of a difference compared to Peters or McCaffery. They all will have the same OL.

Community college credits

are accepted by the University of Michigan. To say otherwise is wrong.

 

Regarding next year, I haven't given up on it but anticip[ate a similar season as this year. The scheduled is much more difficult and we still don't have a seasoned QB nor a reliable OL.

Most talented?

What was Miss record this year? Don't forget he had a bad knee injury 2016 and did not play most of the games. Your mortgaging your recruiting future by taking the transfer. Why do you think MIchigan doesn't take community college transfers?

Taking Shea will hurt QB recruiting

in the future. 2018 will not be a great year for Michigan. Use it to give experience to your highly recruited and on board QB's. 2019 may be the NC year.

Could it be related to coaching technique?

If they are taught to occupy and be responsible for a certain space they are less likely to be held. ONTO hand, if taught to free wheel it to the RB or QB, the DL actions are not anticipated or predictable thus requiring an OL to take whatever action to excecute the play.

That said, many DL of Michigan are in the NFL regadless if they are held or not.

Football at any level

requires a good QB for a team to be successful. The jury is still out on Peters and McCaffery. If either of them meet expectations, Michigsn will be a top ten team.

Peter and McCaffery are still

young with very limited playing time. We have no idea if they will be any good or at the least competent (Peter won games against very weal opponents. He would not have won the Wisconsin game). Without a competent QB next year, we will have a similar season as this year.

 

The reason they are against Schiano

will surprise many. Has nothing to do with his past performance as a coach. The reason is there is some indication that while an assistant at PSU he allegedly told another coach of the Sandusky problems and failed to report him. Shiano denies knowing anything about it.

Does playing in a bowl game cause you to lose your redshirt?

What if the game is schedule for a 2018 date?

I suspect he was told

he did not have a future with the team. Its a win win for both Speight and Michigan.

It would be a game we could easily lose

because we don't do well against good QB's. Arizona has one hell of a QB.

Better yet

please beat a team with a winning record. Most of our wins in the past three years have been against teams with a losing record. This year we haven't won one game against a team with a winning record.

You're absolutely right

Many poster are thinking with their hearts and not their brain. Peters will not play nor will Speight. It will be O'korn and Malzone.

I believe in miracles but they will not happen Saturday. The best we hope for is a good fight and stay within two touchdowns.

I am not sure a lifetime contract

as an employee for the State of MIcjgan is legal. 

Regarding our record, it doesn't say much that all our wins were against teams with a losing record. BY ANY measure, the coaching staff has not lived up to expectations or their inflated salaries.

Isn't the holder

for place kicks a recruited QB?

Can we stop this crap about

referees are the blame for our losses? We are an average team that must play beyond expectations to win against a good team. It will not happen Saturday nor will it be the fault of the officials or OL. OSU is the better team and the only way they will lose is if the sleep walk as they did against Iowa.

Some facts

In the two years Don Brown defense has cough up the lead in the forth quarter in all but ONE game==Wisconsin last year who was playing a freshman QB and admitted it was the worst game of his career.

JH is a good coach and is perfect for

MIchigan. He knows the university and embraces its academic standards. But he is not an elite coach or a great one. The college game has passed him by. He will win against lesser teams but not against strong and above average teams. His performance at Stanford was a black swan. Extraordinary given the restrictions he had to coach under.

The 49"er gig was ready to pop when he took over. He brought a positive attitude to a team that previously was poorly coach and had moral issues. He got out just in time.

He is not a Saban, Myers or Sweeney. I even think D'Antonio is a better coach. Had D'Antomio been coaching the team we would have beat MSU and Wisconsin.

JH achilles heal is he is loyal and keeps the same people around him even though results cry out for changes. To have your 27 old son who I don't believe ever play football at a high level coaching elite college players is a travesty. 

So don't set your expectations on the level of Alabama, Clemson, OSU or even PSU. 

 

After the visual Fox put up

during the game regarding what OL of Wisconsin were making in the NFL, what kid wouldn't want to go to Wisconsin?

I happen to beleve good OL players are developed by good coaching. There is no evidence of that from Michigan.