well that's just, like, your opinion, man
Michigan basketball @ Ohio Open Thread
To have a chance at the B1G 'ship.
that Anna Sidorova has her hand on a Maize-handled stone today.
At least if we lose this picture will be here to resort back to. I'd enjoy showing her my vinegar strokes (sorry GF, I love you).
Beat these fools. 2 weeks ago they looked incompetent as hell, especially on offense. Now, they're looking like a decent team capable of beating most anyone. I gotta give credit to Matta and those young men for righting the ship. Michigan I think is still a better overall basketball team but right now we're the team going through an identify phase. Pulling together and figuring it out for a W in Columbus would be a treat and a damn good sign things are still as promising as they were 2 weeks ago.
Since Stauskas is in a slump, and will be guarded by Cheeks, someone, anyone, needs to step up -- I'm looking at you, GRIII. LeVert and GRIII are the key - so go they go the Wolverines tonight.
Must be more consistent...he's an enigma, imo. It's kind of odd to think the NBA would want a guy like him after this season. At times he looks unstoppable - like when curling to the hoop and getting a nice pass, but at times it looks like I could guard him.
Gonna be rockin' at the Value tonight. My gawd. Please never sell Crisler Center out to corporate sponsorship.
BTW, is there any time zone better than Central? Game time @ 8 p.m., asleep by 10:30 p.m. (11 a.m. football kickoffs suck ass, though).
I've always liked 11am games...when at home anyway. Tailgating on the other hand could always use an extra hour.
where we were usually drinking heavily by half time.... GO BLUE!
MY general feeling is that outside of Chicago, if one lives in the Central time zone one might as well live in Bolivia
Look for the logos on the playing surface.
The most important thing is keeping a body on a man and boxing out. Iowa and Indiana basically played throw it at the rim until they make it.
If we are who we say we are.
Unless we don't know who we are...
But that will make victory taste that much more sweet!!
Since I watched the Iowa game without the DVR this past weekend and we know how that ended up, I've got the DVR on tonight and will not watch the game live. I'll look for the score at halftime and at the end. Hey, it might work!
@Bill_Kurelic: Urban Meyer just walked in Schott with Damien Harris. Huge applause.
Damn....that one stings a little.
Lets see 15 and 8. Lets see that lottery game tonight. Take these fools out.
I mean...11 seconds left, down 8, and TN is still fouling. Do they want to extend the game as long as possible to avoid studying or something?
Can't stand him...
Wow. Look at all of those douche bags.
I want a 20-point Michigan victory. Embarrass them in their house.
Welcome to Columbus. We hope you like Hell's Bells.
Deer in headlights
Wish I could watch
great great positioning, terrible terrble execution
please do that all the time
There we go Nik.
from levert. woof.
C'mon man, never save it right to the opposite team under the basket! Jesus!
Stream? I'm in an "Olympic only" bar in Louisville. Blarg.
I need a stream.
not great, but better than nothing:
Olympics only? WTF?
GR3 needs to go for that rebound.
That is all.
Why save the ball under the basket? He touched it last and they missed the rim so even if they're awarded the ball, they have short time to inbound and shoot. Not a great decision.
by morgan. not sure if legal but super play.
They're already holding in every cut to the hole.
but can't find his shot
Shots not falling at the beginning here which is bad.
Shots not falling at the beginning here which is bad.
Ed: had to be said twice, apparently..
Fuck don't let them get going now. Quiet the crowd please. God damn it.
As I was commenting, in response to the alley oop, we give up an open dunk in the middle. None of our guys even in the paint.
That's three completely uncontested shots in a row. Absolutely disgraceful defense.
This looks like it's going to go about exactly the same at the IU and Iowa games. Can't do anything except jack up threes.
There is no one on Earth I'd rather fight than Aaron Craft, but 33 on Ohio is next in line. DAMN that dude is ugly.
Running the offense through GRIII will lead to a 50 point loss.
Worst. Defense. Ever.
2 easy put backs missed. Please make those...
Yup. Those are four precious points M is going to need in this game and now they're gone. So frustrating.
I don't see what you're referring to. Did they forget one?
Can't buy a shot right now either. Ohio can't shoot, so how about we stop letting them getting easy layups and dunks?
Do we have coaches? We seem to be incapable of making adjustments from game to game.
I hate road games.
Giving an iffy offensive but good defensive team a bunch of easy buckets is a pretty sure recipe for failure.
Dakich already thinks we lost. He seems like he hates U of M.
Do you want him to do when we make the same mistakes game after game? Praise us?
1/5 from the field, 3 missed jumpers and bad defense. The best part is 2 of the missed jumpers are the typical catch the ball on the perimiter, dribble in once and then pull up and miss, his patented move. Put in Irvin.
I hate to be so negative but this is nearly exactly how the IU and Iowa games started. Here's to hoping for a different outcome.
Involved early but its gotta be within the flow of the offense
They're a bunch of soft, somewhat lazy kids that rely on talent over working hard.
This team is an EASY candidate to be 1 and done in the NCAA tournament because they'll just get outworked.
We have ZERO toughness. ZERO energy. ZERO leadership.
Right, these guys are never in the gym or their backyards working on their game.
Don't be a dick.
Not agreeing with Yost, but if these 3 guys showed as much a sense of urgency on the court as they apparently do in the weight room, could you imagine how much of a force they'd be?
Nothing like jumping ship after 5 minutes of game time...
GR3 should be known as GRLong2 ... makes me want to stab myself in the eyes. Drive to the f'ing hoop.
He really does love taking that low percentage, low reward shot that he can hardly ever hit way too often. Its annoying as hell.
He's trying to refine his NBA skills during gamed apparently. Trying his best Carmelo impersonation.
We all know now that for whatever reason he can't drive to the hoop is he is being guarded. For some reason he can't use his athleticism to blow past defenders.
4 minutes of basketball leads to Armageddon.
Defense? Do we not do play any of that anymore? I hate to say something which seems to fall in line with Dakich's broad general statements, but we really don't seem to put forth any effort on that side of the ball. We may not have the best defenders, but can we at least pretend to try?
I remember listening to that win at OSU in 2003 on the radio because it wasn't broadcast on TV. The next month we pounded them at Crisler.
Every OSU field goal now in the paint. Absurd.
We needed that
Yeah I'm not sure why Irvin isn't starting over GR3 at this point.
Lol, craft just chucks it up and of course gets a friendly roll.
Some D would be good.
GERG thinks this defense is too porous.
is sad. sad puppy. sad kitty
Em get to the hole like that
Get GRIII the hell out of the game. He's worse than bad.
I love how our defenders all just moved out of the way to let that guy score.
Is just atrocious
Every fucking roll...
This is a fucking layup drill. Disgusting effort.
Yep, his isn't our half. Let's try to keep it within single digits by halftime.
We have *got* to rally!
We CAN come through & win this game.
Keep calm, FOCUS, and pull.
We've had so many go in and out and they can't miss. Each team should start to see the mean soon, right?
Over the course of a season ,yes. Over the course of a game... see IU, not so much.
This team looks so bad lately. How did we regress so much?
The other teams figured Michigan out. Cut off Stauskas and live with low efficiency players like LeVert and GR3 to beat you.
Shooting was extremely hot through January despite flaws on defense. Now that the shooting isn't hot anymore, we have....this.
This team is headed for a nosedive. Hope they can pull out of it soon
This game looks familiar. What could it be? OH YEAH! The game last year in Columbus.
Okay let's start playing FOR KEEPS
We're playing better defense now. I don't know why we're so inconsistent at that end.
Dakich can lick my Grundle.
Can one God damn roll go our way, 2 bounces in for them on their end, and 3 bounces out for us.
How weak we play on the road.
Hopefully he can run a resemblance of an offense.
Our offense is just struggling to generate open looks right now.
I don't know -- there have been several open threes missed and several layups. The offense is creating lools. The defense blows though.
Well Ross is the hot player tonight. 5/5. Defense is horrendous and GRIII can't make anything. This is setting up just peachy for us.
Players seem to find their groove against us
can't have your best offensive player touch the ball 1/10 possessions
Last year vs. Ohio...at home we were running plays for THJ all game and he destroyed him. Why do we always just plant Nik in a corner and expect him to get open through an off the ball screen?
He won't get the ball if he just stands in one spot.
It seems like we're missing out on a handful of defensive plays each game for the simple reason that we aren't bothering to so much as stick a hand in the air at the right time. We're watching teams lay it up, looking at the ball as it's flying right past us on cross court passes... how hard is it to stick an arm up there and just maybe deflect a ball or at least interfere with a dude's concentration a little bit.
Dakich calls Craft brilliant. Yup.
This team needs a leader badly.
We have had about 8 shots go in and out again. They're bound to start falling eventually, right?
no need for that
Is it an airball if it hit the net? And they've had at least 2 so far. Just saying, students.
I call it an air ball
Yes, still an airball.
there it issss
I think I found a student section that is worse than ours...it might be Ohio's.
let's see if he can shoot free throws...
We're playing much better now.
3 of these bad boys
I thought Caris was supposed to be one of our best passers based on all the off season hype. Yet, he is like a black hole every time he gets the ball: over dribbles and never sees the open man.
I have been saying that he dribbles too much all season, so I obviously agree with you.
I think LeVert and Walton's recent play is a little overrated. The offense doesn't flow as well when Spike is out of the game.
For one, he can dribble around anyone, for two he moves the ball and finds the open man.
LeVert dribbles just as much as Irvin shoots and Walton never gets us set offensively or defensively.
For all the crap we give Dakich for slobbering all over Craft, he really loves Spike too. Must be something about small, white point guards
Dakich can suck my grundle
I'm very interested to see how this plays out. Finally GRIII and Irvin.
HAHAHAHAHA he said MSU and Ohio is the best Big Ten basketball rivalry. That is a joke.
Dakich is pissed his boy rides our pine.
We're hitting 28% to 60s for them. Wow.
Gotta shoot better than 28%..
I don't know much about basketball, but that was better defense, no?
Stauskas needs to slow down and let the game come to him. He's rushing everything right now.
Our shots are way too quick. Run the offense
Was that not a travel?
C'mon Nik, we needed a bucket there badly, better shot selection please. Could've been down to 3, now back up to 7.
Amir Williams is throwing up prayers and they're going in.
That was ugly. How are their shots going in?
watching on a crappy feed... did Craft just run right into Stauskas with no call?
Jacking up horrible shots
Holy shit this is bad.
And that's the ballgame
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!?
That would be FOUR put back layups that we missed.
Robinson sucks ass. Bring on the downvotes baby! Kid has missed layups already.
Morgans boulder hands make an appearance. Have given up 8 points by missing put back layups.
Robinson, WTF was that??
Jesus. He should not be starting.
How was Morgan not fouled there?
WE NEED FUCKING PUTBACKS JESUS CHRIST
Air balls and missed layups. WTF????
This looks likes high schoolers vs college kids. They're just chucking up random shit. This is ridiculous.
We're up by 2 points despite OSU's hot shooting.
The offense has to be superb. ..
Beilein needs to get the flow back with the offense right now. It's almost too hard to watch them flounder around like this.
Let me just throw the ball up when I'm under the rim. Oh wait...
Why on this earth do we not run pick and roll with two of our wings that can actually shoot?!?! Why is it always with Morgan or Horford, two guys that couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. Run it with Irvin and NIk, or Walton and Nik. This way the defense has to respect both shooters.
GRIII is a first round pick? Not the way he is playing.
Even if we foul a couple of times, we need to play tough.
Not to name names, but our "Center" has some of the worst hands in basketball. He does some things well, but his hands are like bricks.
What a joke.
Seems like we are coming back down to reality A little bit. We don't have a consistent playmaker and it kills us.
There is nobody on M's team that is really to be feared on any given night. Tonight, the five on the floor are waiting for somebody to make a play. Time for somebody to step .
They look a little lost out there. Have to clean it up
7 ORebs to their 1 and we are down 8...
That happens when you only convert 1 of those boards into points.
They don't look like they can run pick and roll.
Put their head down and get to the damn rim!
This is where Trey would have done just that. Put's pressure on the D, they can't just hang out on the perimeter.
Robinson badly needs another year in college. He has so much potential but has yet to bring all that potential out and he won't get the time in the Pros to do it. He either needs to get a better shot (a lot better) or needs to bulk up (a lot) or he will be a man without a position. Poor shooter from beyond the arc and not big enough to post up PF's in the NBA.
Besides athleticism, I'm not sure 2 more years of college turns him into an NBA player. I see a great athlete out there, but a mediocre basketball player.
Who is more of a bitch than Matta? No one? Didn't think so.
At least their guys are jacking up fast 3s now too. If they were hitting them that's another thing of course
we need that shot waaaaaaaaaaaah
Even Stauskas can't sink wide open shots. This is gonna be a long game.
We can't shoot 20% forever can we?
Dakich just needs to suck him off and get it over with already. Listening to him talk about Craft is disturbing.
If OSU was shooting even decently from 3 pt range, this game would be over.
What if we were shooting decently? See what I did there?
Now he's hesitant...this team lacks leadership and toughness.
Thing that sucks about this team is they can't get enough stops to win when the shots aren't falling. Get out scored by Ohio. Yikes.
We cannot make shots or defend. Stauskas has been nuetralized.....again. GR3 cannot do anything. We simply can't win with this lack of offense and defensive intensity. We will be good next season because all of these kids except Morgan are returning....
The amount of just aimless dribbling we see at times out of this team offensively is just hard to come to grips with when they're capable of moving the ball so well at times. We get way too bogged down once a good defensive team takes away our first option.
Man as much as I love me some GR3 he is really killing us lately he seems to really be forcing things lately.
What is it that you like about him? That he can dunk?
we hit a wall towards the middle late half of the big ten schedule. You can see we are not with it. I actually didn't mind us losing in the big ten tournament last year biggest I thought we needed a big rest before the ncaa tournament, looks like if we want a run we might need that early out of the big ten tourny....unless they win it.
Does he ever come out? He needs to sit down
Nik was fouled on that last 3. I know it's rarely called, but we have to go at their shooters just as hard and risk the foul.
We need to come off the ledge. I think once the shots start falling and they stop getting the bounces we will have a shot to make a run. I also have total faith in Beileins ability to adjust at the half.
Our lack of a big man that can do anything on offense is killing us. If either Morgan or Horford could knock down a jumper then they wouldn't be able to play that over the top defense on Stauskas. Instead our big men get the ball 15 feet from the basket and do nothing with it.
How is that a shooting foul.
Is just standing around falls on the coaching staff. The wings are just standing around and no one is moving. No pressure on the defense. No attempts to get to the rack. Five missed put backs at the rim. Against so so teams might work but good teams have figured out how to defend Michigan. Keep pushing the guards outside the three point line and keep some pressure on the wings and Michigan has to settle for long threes late in the shot clock. Not good.
These past few games have highlighted how much we miss Mitch out there. And it's not only because he's a big body down low that would provide another offensive option and contribute some great D. We miss his energy badly. The team just looks so flat right now. I don't question their dedication or commitment, but they've looked so defeated on the court. It's such a stark contrast to the attitude they had during that first gauntlet. They need someone to spark the team.
If OSU is shooting better than 12% from 3 we are toast.
Kids need to get their head in the game. They have a serious problem on the road. How did we win at Breslin?
Can't even inbound the damn ball
rather start RG3 than GR3 at power forward. He's brutal. And I can't tell if LeVert cannot operate within the offense or just refuses to.
Mr Chuckles tonight
Mitch McGary appreciation post.
More of that please
This is an Ellerbe offense. One guy dirbbling around, 4 guys standing around.
Nik, do you really think you won't have to work to get open in the NBA?
As I type this he gets wide open and hits a 3. Nice. Also he got tackled in the lane.
of non playoff NBA games he could.
Keeps jacking up the threes
Better offense. I'm liking this now
If we can go into half down four, I'd be happy with how bad we've looked.
Amazed how many minutes GR3 gets. No accountability.
Ugh foul with 3 seconds on the shot clock.
Dakich mentioning the mancrush. LOL
Nothing is more annoying than when a team dribbles around for 30 seconds and then gets fouled with 5 seconds left on the shotclock.
And at least Dakitch just admitted his man crush
Dakich likes Craft's grundle.
Dakich straightup admits his mancrush on Kraft
And Irvin hallucinates a player there.
STOP PLAYING BADLY!
WTF was that?
Lol we just let it roll out of bounds. What a joke.
If I was an Ohio State fan, I'd be worried. This game should not be this close.
Must we do something stupid everytime we have a chance to get within 1 possession.
What the fuck was that turnover?
Dakich admits his man-crush on himself.
but he only made that admission after rightly being accused, on live TV, of having a "man-crush" on Craft.
That exchange was worth waiting for; I hope a you-tubed record of it appears ASAP here on the board!
"People say I have a man crush or whatever on Aaron Craft" hahahahaha, WTF, did you just say that on the air?!
you'd have to worry about his mental health if he was not self aware
How in the world is the game this close at the half? Is this what it's like when no one on the opposing team goes off from 3?
Craft's blush looks better tonight.
I had no idea Ohio state was this weak. We can play badly and win this game.
GOD DAMMIT! Of course he fouled him on the three. Of fucking course.
Horrible foul by Irvin, my God.
Why would you foul him on the shot?!?
This team is so perplexingly dumb sometimes.
Great way to close the half and then Irvin gives it back.
How many times do we fall for awful shot fakes? It's at least once per possession.
All the time. We have length. Just stick your arm up. Do they not teach defensive technique???
Really Irvin? Wth.
How the fuck do they call that shit when Nik has been hit on nearly every shot?
OSU home-cooking, obvs.
It's pretty tough to argue with that foul call. Irvin left his feet and jumped into him. It's automatic.
Ross kicked his foot out on the landing and Irvin ran into it. That's bull crap
Why not use the foul to give? Instead give them 2 free points.
Like I said... Down four at half feels okay.
Down 4 at the half. I'll take it.
Jus gotta keep rooting for 'em
I will take down by 4 with 24% shooting and terrible defense.
I am appalled by the fact that we are shooting 24%.
32.1 actually, still nowhere near where we should be
It is an absolute miracle that we are down 4 at half.
not a miracle.
if we can just hang in there, we can pull through.
Matta looks like he's sweating like a motherfucker
Taco Tuesday at Value City Arena. LMAO. Classy
Bitch anywhere near the amount we would, if Brandon renamed our arena after a brand?
They love the Value City Furniture. And, they love large retail holding companies. Have you seen their football stadium? Been to a game there? They have a sponsor for "Hang on Sloopy" for gosh sakes. Has a real Times Square feel.
They like nice things, regardless of who pays for it.
Moral degenerates, all of them!
I feel like we're going to win this. We were tight early but have relaxed a little bit.
a win tonight is do-able.
We just gotta want enough.
And I mean actively want.
That technology that allows you to mute the play by play and color commentary cannot come state side soon enough.
That nose, though....
I'm glad J-Mo almost punched his ass out.
Quit whining like a bitch and play basketball. This is the B1G, stop pouting or sit on the bench.
Shit drives me nuts.
30-26 bad guys at the half.
Matta turning into Jimmy Durante more and more every day.
And hopefully past the dreadful stretch. Let's get 'em in second half!
That's a pretty good half on the road. Poor shooting and bad defense in the paint but we're only down four.
The means weren't good but considering this is on the road and the level of defense that was played I'll take down four. Starting this half Michigan has to pick it back up and start playing better. Hopefully some of this is a rest issue, 5 games in 14 days, but this is not the same team as a couple of weeks ago. Let's see what happens. I do think there's an opportunity to get beter as the season progresses.
Now OSU gets to shoot at the rim with a lid.
Aaron Craft's roommates became popular on Twitter by making tacos.
Did I mention I hate Ohio State?
Not a big deal...keep playing the same defense and forcing them to make 3's and there is no way we play that bad on offense again.
We missed 6 layups, some free throws, 2 wide open 3's and 3 wide open 2's.
We cold realistically be up 10...we shouldn't be, because we're playing like shit. But we easily could be if we simply play Michigan Basketball on offense.
Does McGary not travel for the road games? We need his moral support.
I thought he did...
WIN THE GAME
State was a road game.
He traveled for the msu didn't he? Wasn't that the game he wrote ''Win the Game'' ?
that he insisted on going to the MSU game, but Beilein said that was it... they're worried he'll re-traumatize himself running up & down on the sidelines.
I was hoping he'd be able to travel for this game, tho.
At least we'll have the wind in the 2nd half.
"Win the game"
halftime dude got it right. If people are matching up shorter players on Stuaskas, he needs to take advantage of his height.