EDIT to add AP rankings
Also, at least one person voted for us to be unranked.... after beating 3 top ten teams.
I think this represents how high and low ranked they have been in the poll this season, not where they were on ballots this week.
The hi/lo ballet votes would have been interesting, oh well
I presume since Drew Sharp has a ballot, he'd be the lo guy on the totem pole.
Thats not what that means. It means their lowest ranking was Not Ranked. Meaning like 3 weeks ago. Their highest ranking of the year was at 8.
poll. Stil bullshit.
The only team M didn't beat is the only team ranked below them. No respect. NO respect, I tells ya.
/s sort of.
Duke or Iowa State.
That's not a very big jump all.
We were tied for 25th in that poll last week. Mind you, it was a joke that we were tied for 25th, but 11.5 spots is a pretty big jump for January.
We actually made the largest jump of any team all season. (On the link, you can see past weeks' polls.) The previous biggest jump was seven spots.
I know that the polls dont matter right now, but.....
If Duke or Kentucky went on the run we went on, they would be an NBA team by now in their eyes.
LOLZ that we are below Iowa and Wisconsin. Straight LOLZ.
also ahead of Duke and Iowa St.
AP poll mich 10 iowa 15
Link? It doesn't appear that the AP has updated yet.
Just a few tweets i've seen, whole thing not out yet
Given our strength of schedule I really expected to be in the top ten.
I hope it keeps the hunger strong
they play better that way anyway. . .
Not great, but I'll take it. We sweep our next three games (Purdue, IU, Nebraska) and we'll probably be top 5.
This is why polls are so stupid. Thankfully they are completely meaningless in basketball.
So there are only 32 coaches that vote in the USA Today poll and only 1 coach is from the Big Ten (Matt Painter, Purdue)? Seems a bit ridiculous
I actually like this because u take out the bias somewhat
How does this take out the bias? You still have 33 coaches with bias, just only one of them in favor of us.
these are the voters:
The USA TODAY Sports Board of Coaches is made up of 32 head coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. The board for the 2013-14 season: Tommy Amaker, Harvard; Randy Bennett, Saint Marys; Jim Boeheim, Syracuse; Rick Byrd, Belmont; Scott Cherry, High Point; Tim Cluess, Iona; Keith Dambrot, Akron; James Dickey, Houston; Scott Drew, Baylor; Matt Driscoll, North Florida; Steve Fisher, San Diego State; Bruiser Flint, Drexel; Tim Floyd, Texas-El Paso; Mark Fox, Georgia; John Gallagher, Hartford; George Ivory, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa; Rob Jeter, Wisconsin-Milwaukee; Danny Kaspar, Texas State; Mike McConathy, Northwestern State; Greg McDermott, Creighton; Bob McKillop, Davidson; Fang Mitchell, Coppin State; Matt Painter, Purdue; Dave Paulsen, Bucknell; Saul Phillips, North Dakota State; Randy Rahe, Weber State; Herb Sendek, Arizona State; Shaka Smart, Virginia Commonwealth; Andrew Toole, Robert Morris; Don Verlin, Idaho; Bob Williams, UC-Santa Barbara.
you don't have the Big Ten coaches voting for each other to make the conference look that much better like SEC coaches do in football. Do you see Northwestern state with votes in the poll? I just think whatever bias there is it's very limited unlike football.
sorry for format. I'm on my phone
Very curious to know where Amaker and Fisher voted us.
coaches in football tend to vote for their conference brethren. That's not just an SEC trait.
Only Dookie V would figure a way to talk about the ACC and Dook for long stretches of the best B1G basketball game of the current season.
Beyond lame. There must be a bunch of absolutely stupid ballots filled out.
Meh. It's basketball. Polls mean nothing. Just get quality wins.
Keep that fire burning, they don't believe in us! bulletin board material!!
The "Biggest Movers" graphic at the top of the page gives me the warm and fuzzies.
Yeah, it's fun in both ways. It's cool that we rose the most, and I enjoyed seeing who the biggest dropper was.
should be made into a flag that flies proudly across the MGoLand.
Ratings and rankings mean nothing at this point, but this is clearly inaccurate.
I hate polls. This is dumb.
Better to be the underdog, I guess, and shock the world... again.
after you changed the pic in your post my reply made no sense.
Yeah, I thought the Hi/Lo was the highest and lowest ranking for the week, which made no sense to me with us being unranked...
Should have read the fine print.
3 straight wins against top 10 teams, and not only are we only just the 14th best team in the country in this stupid poll, but evidently the general consensus is that all 3 are better than us?
Not to mention we beat two of them on their own courts. Just ugh. This is dumb, and now I feel bad that I've been eagerly awaiting the results.
we movedup a lot (11 spots). That is a huge bump, and a similar jump in the AP will get us at #10. But, seems to me we should have passed Wiscy and Iowa, ranked just ahead of us. Esp. Iowa, which also has 4 losses. Hard to see how anyone could have us unranked.
This reminds me of the polls my senior yr of high school baseball. We were ranked #9 and Grand Ledge was ranked #6 going into a double header. We beat them twice on their home field and the next week we were unranked and they moved up. Makes tons of sense.
This is actually much more hilarious. So intrigued with the though behind this.
I don't know how old you are, but regardless, it's time you let that one go. High school rankings are 110% political.
Never forget! It's my go-to story to illustrate how stupid polls are.
Tom Izzo (who shoots 100 free throws every day because he missed a FT in a high school game 40+ years ago) doesn't understand what you mean by "letting go."
Never close the yearbook!
State will probably move up to five after they lose Tuesday. Wonder what gimmick jersey they have waiting to debut? Has beens.
It's gonna be very interesting to see what Sparty looks like next year when they lose literally every one of their good players, with no great recruits to replace them.
AP poll official now per ESPN
injuries? Come on. We were lucky to win. /s
Glad to see we're on top of Iowa and Wisconsin. I can understand being behind MSU, given our extra losses.
Ohio State 24
Behind both wisconsin and iowa? What?
AP poll is about right
Yeah, I don't think there are many complaints to be had about the AP Poll. The teams above us all have a legitimate claim of superiority, especially with our non-conference troubles. Losing to Charlotte really hurt us.
I'm ok with the AP results.
All I care about!
Win the B1G and let's make a run in March!!
As much as we hate our friends in Ohio, 11 Warriors piece on power rankings seems to be spot on. Don't let the title get you upset - the reporting seems fair.
"... as *he* and the rest..."
Looking at some of the individual ballots, it is nice to see a few folks were paying us an even bigger compliment. Seth Davis did indeed put us at #6, Joe Rexrode had us at #7 and numerous folks had us at #9. One voter who had us unranked last week even put us as high as #5. That being said, the AP Poll seems a little more sensible to me as well.
John Feinstein has us at #5 too.
...in a poll of 23 goldfish selected at random from the display tanks at Meijer.
Most of the goldfish will be dead by Thursday.
I guess the USA Today doesn't watch much college basketball !
Wow. AP looks good, but 14 is too low, especially considering the recent records of those around us. Whatever. Win and it doesn't matter.
Not to bad! The USA poll seems a little off, but we still have a lot of games to move up!
The AP poll seems to have got it right. There is no basis for teams like Kentucky and Iowa to be ranked ahead of us like they are in the USA today poll.
All that matters to me right now is , Winning, Big ten regular season champion, Big ten touney seeding, Big ten tourney champions, NCAA seeding, Final four appearence and a NCAA championship. That Charolette loss is whats holding us down right now. Nothing a few more W's won't cure
Just like in football........
What a fucking joke.
Silliest rank in these rankings has got to be Wichita State. Yeah, I understand they have won all their games, but dang. Who is their best win? Alabama? Missouri State? Does anyone think they could beat any of the rest of the top 10 even in a home game?
My gut feeling is that they are receiving a nice bump from their impressive tourney run last year to further legitimize this year's undefeated record. I'm not saying this is necessarily right, but going toe-to-toe with Louisville in the 2013 national semifinal game is definitely not hurting their ranking this year.
Somehow, I'd forgotten that.
So where's the bump for winning our national semi final game?
We started in the Top 10. That clearly was wrong to begin the season. Are we now? Seemingly yes, but our bump was right out of the gate.
I was guessing around 12.
Of course we're ranked 14th after this week's epic run...
2014 - magical year.
I am late to the party but think of it this way:
1) USA today poll is a fucking joke. Fuck it. Don't pay attention.
2) We are the second highest 4 loss team in the AP poll at #10. The only team ranked higher than us with 4 losses is Kansas, who is on fire right now (not to say that we are not, but KU is probably the best team in the country right now). We moved up 11 spots in the poll. The next highest move was 3.
I am fine with the AP Poll.
I'd rather be ranked low with a chip on my shoulder, than high and feeling like I'd accomplished something great - prior to March.
The fact that we're talking about these polls and not kenpom/sagarin is the problem. These polls only have legitimacy because people like all of us link to it and argue about it. Let's just discuss computer rankings and if enough of us do that, the big media publishers will just publish those rankings and quit making stupid polls.
USA Today poll is silly, but fortunately not important. It won't have any impact on whether we can go on from here to win the Big 10 or accumulate quality wins that will help us with our seeding. It certainly won't cause us to lose in March.
But yeah, having us behind Iowa with the head-to-head win, the two recent huge road victories, and the same number of losses as the Hawks doesn't make sense. Having us behind a Wisconsin team that only just now snapped a three game losing streak, including at home against us, also doesn't make sense. They've got the one game overall record advantage, but we're three games ahead of them in the conference. I don't get it. MSU ahead of us is fine for now. Maybe when we beat them at home we'll pass them then.
if it said "Duke" on our jerseys. To wit:
AP voters have ranked Team A #6; Team B, #10.
Coaches have Team A #7; B, #14.
Team A is Kansas; Team B, Michigan.
And in the end, the NCAA committee doesn't even look at rankings. The above is why. They are stupid and biased. We should all stop paying any attention to them.
AP poll seems to be right, IMO. The USA Today poll is laughable, though.
It's great to be living in basketball world where polls don't mean much as opposed to football world where idiot pollsters can sink your season.