iawolve

October 8th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

This would be very curious if Illinois had not already amazed us all by doing it right before the season started. Maybe they have a coordinator that is more competent than Edsall to step in, otherwise, I assume this will not be good. Amazingly though, Flood still has a job. If anyone was going to get shown the door, I assumed it was him.

 

 

Canadian

October 8th, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^

I can remember thinking to myself (in the stands) "look at that assistant jumping around" somebody said it was pat and I was in disbelief. I like him, think he's a damn good football coach but thought this was a bad moment of weakness. Glad we won that game.

M-Dog

October 8th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

Agreed.  It's a bad day when we no longer matter.

One of the lowest points in recent Michigan football history was when Ohio State was dominating us at Columbus (2010 I think) and the camera panned the Buckeye crowd  . . . and they were yawning.  

It meant nothing special to beat us.

Ronnie Kaye

October 8th, 2015 at 11:33 PM ^

Ah yes, the Tubby Smith argument. I have no problem with a coach getting fired if they've been there for awhile and it's clear they aren't going to top out at anything extraordinary. Why not roll the dice? How are you going to sell any fanbase on being happy with scraping above .500 forever?

No one should give a shit about making low level bowls. Seriously.

RGard

October 8th, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^

now at 68 years old and may not have the energy, but I like him.  I live across the Potomac from Maryland and would see him on the local TV during his press conferences.  All around decent person and better than competent coach who did good things with an underachieving program.

He got a raw deal there.

turd ferguson

October 8th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^

I'm hoping to see Hoke become a killer DL coach somewhere (NFL or college).  We had some close call recruiting losses on the DL in recent years, with Hand, McDowell, etc., and still he left Harbaugh with an unbelievable line.  Mattison and Durkin deserve credit, too, but it's one of the few areas from the last coaching staff where talent identification and/or development was outstanding.

reshp1

October 8th, 2015 at 11:36 AM ^

Same here. For all his failings, DL coaching was stellar, particularly on the interior. His recruiting chops would be just icing on the cake.

That's probably a hard step down to take for him though, even if that's really good calling (as he himself has said). My bet is he takes another MAC level HC job in the next couple years.

M-Dog

October 8th, 2015 at 12:25 PM ^

I'm not sure if it is that big a step down for him.  As head coach, he could not resist getting involved in the D-Line coaching and said as much several times.

He should already be set for life financially if he has any kind of even remotely competent investment advisor.  As a D-Line coach at a top school, he could do pretty well and do what he likes doing.

If Mattison retires and Hoke wants to come back here as D-Line coach, I would definitely take him.

reshp1

October 8th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^

As aw shucks as Hoke seems sometimes, I get the feeling he's more career objective driven than he let's on. If being a DL coach was enough for him, he wouldn't have left Michigan the first time. The guy wanted to be a HC, strongly. Now that may have changed after he attained his dream job, even if it didn't work out, but I don't think so, personally.