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November 18th, 2012 at 9:05 PM
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Looks like Maryland is on the way

An article placed at cbs sports an hour ago says Maryland will vote as early as tomorrow on their invitation to join the Big Ten. Says that university's biggest donor backs the move. Hard to imagine that this is not a twofer deal, with Rutgers right behind. 

The article notes that the $50 million exit fee might be a stumbling block for Maryland. But from what I've read elsewhere the league may take all or part out of future revenue to the school.

Perhaps it's been noted elsewhere, but this gives the Big Ten access to 35% of the nation's viewers, bringing in the DC and NY areas, and extends the league across a fairly contiguous--that is, plausible--swath of the country, from Nebraska to the Atlantic coast. I realize that Rutgers and Maryland aren't the most appetizing draws in an immediate sense, but I like having the league entering NY and DC, taking in part of the South now, too. (And there's no reason why those schools cannot get better, including in football.) Obviously, the expanded TV revenue is the big draw for the league itself. Will be interesting to see if the league uses the pretext of expansion to reconfigure the divisions, which are pretty unpopular, at least here.

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21...

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:11 PM | Big Ten East/West (Score:2 Normal)
Soulfire21
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Big Ten East

  • Rutgers
  • Maryland
  • Michigan
  • Ohio State
  • Penn State
  • Indiana
  • Michigan State

Big Ten West

  • Iowa
  • Nebraska
  • Wisconsin
  • Northwestern
  • Illinois
  • Minnesota
  • Purdue

This split would create an imbalance methinks, with Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State in one division.

Alternatively,

Big Ten North

  • Wisconsin
  • Minnesota
  • Michigan
  • Michigan State
  • Rutgers
  • Penn State
  • Northwestern

Big Ten South

  • Maryland
  • Ohio State
  • Indiana
  • Purdue
  • Nebraska
  • Iowa
  • Illinois

Not sure if that's any more balanced or not, and does pose the (same current) problem of Michigan and OSU in separate divisions.

HAIL.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:13 PM | My best case divisional setup (Score:5 Normal)
Leaders And Best
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Central: Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana

Northwest/East: Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland, Rutgers

- almost every major rivalry game is protected within division (except Little Brown Jug) and creates East Coast partner schools for PSU

- Eliminates need for the protected crossover thus enabling 2 rotating interdivisional games per year (one of the biggest problems with the SEC setup)

November 18th, 2012 at 9:15 PM | I like it (Score:1)
Soulfire21
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Mine were based strictly off of geography and sacrificed Northwestern/Illinois or Indiana/Purdue rivalries.

This one makes quite a bit of sense in everything else.

HAIL.

November 18th, 2012 at 11:17 PM | I like this setup.  If we can (Score:2)
jmblue
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I like this setup.  If we can get placed in the same division as OSU, I will definitely change my tune about expansion.   

November 18th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | If the Big Ten did this, I (Score:2 Normal)
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If the Big Ten did this, I would support these acquisitions.

November 19th, 2012 at 5:23 AM | If UMD and Rutgers are added, (Score:2 Normal)
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If UMD and Rutgers are added, I am convinced that the only reason was to cover up the division alignment SNAFU without admitting it sucked and changing them.

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:07 PM | SMH (Score:5 Normal)
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SMH

November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Wake me up if there's news on (Score:5 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Wake me up if there's news on possible divisional realignments.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Thank you Delaney for turning (Score:5 Normal)
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Thank you Delaney for turning us into the Big East.

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Jesus. Pitt and Mizzou would (Score:5 Normal)
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Jesus. Pitt and Mizzou would have been much better choices

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | Pitt? What does Pitt bring? (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Pitt? What does Pitt bring?

November 18th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | A fuckload more than Rutgers (Score:5 Normal)
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That's for sure

November 18th, 2012 at 9:21 PM | But what specifically? No (Score:1 Trolling)
WolvinLA2
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But what specifically? No new footprint, and that's the most important thing.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:38 PM | Why? (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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Why is that the most important thing? Why is the most important thing not "quality of sports teams?" it is supremely fucked up that "footprint" is the most important thing for expansion of a not-for-profit athletic conference.

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:42 PM | The conference maybe not for (Score:1 Normal)
GBOD79
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The conference maybe not for profit, but the AD's are surely for profit. 

Those who stay will be champions!

November 18th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | In (Score:1)
Geary_maize
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In the long run, Rutgers and Maryland has much more potential for great football than Pitt. And we're not even going into the little to no revenue Pitt would generate.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | How? (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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Pitt is in a talent-rich football state and has an established history of being good at football. Rutgers is in the Northeast, and is Rutgers. Pitt also has excellent basketball, and is at worst a wash with Maryland on that (and is miles ahead of Rutgers).

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

November 18th, 2012 at 10:53 PM | Pitt (Score:1)
Geary_maize
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Pitt will always, always be second fiddle to Penn State. They will always lose more than win to Penn State for recruits. Also their 'established' history is nothing special.

Rutgers on the other hand, is the dominant pubic school in a talent rich state. If they con retain only a small percentage of their recruits, they will always have better talent than Pitt.

November 18th, 2012 at 11:17 PM | Michigan State will always, (Score:3 Normal)
Flying Dutchman
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Michigan State will always, always be second fiddle to Michigan. They will always lose more than win to Michigan for recruits. Also their 'established' history is nothing special.

Just having fun with that.

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November 18th, 2012 at 11:45 PM | Just so I'm understanding this right... (Score:1)
woomba
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you're agreeing with the others in saying that Pitt doesn't add much, right?

November 18th, 2012 at 9:59 PM | Rutgers has potential for (Score:5 Normal)
chitownblue2
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Rutgers has potential for great football?

They've played for over 100 years. What has kept this sleeping giant a stinking shitstain for all that time?

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November 18th, 2012 at 11:10 PM | Meh...Not sure I buy the (Score:5 Normal)
wildbackdunesman
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Meh...

Not sure I buy the logic of a team always being crappy, just because their history isn't great.

Boise State was once a joke in the lower divisions and Princeton was once a powerhouse.

Rutgers has 7 winning seasons in the last 8 years AND they have pretty much only been playing Big Boy football for 30 years.

 

I will not be excited to get them, but even Miss Cleo would have a hard time prediciting who will win games 10 to 20 to 30 years down the road.

November 18th, 2012 at 11:11 PM | Wow! (Score:2 Normal)
Gulogulo37
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Wow! Winning seasons! My, what great expectations we have. "This team wins half of their games in an awful awful conference" Sign em up!

November 18th, 2012 at 10:55 PM | Well (Score:2 Normal)
Geary_maize
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They've never had the resources of the B1G, and the old Big East poisoned any momentum they might have had, and the new Big East is a joke of a conference none of the blue chips would play for.

Put them in the B1G, and suddently the Jersey recruits have a home option. New York and New Jersey, are very, very decent recruiting grounds.

November 19th, 2012 at 10:44 AM | Currently more highly ranked than all but three (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 18th, 2012 at 9:58 PM | No, no, haven't you (Score:5 Normal)
maizenbluedevil
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No, no, haven't you heard? 

College athletics is now a huge game of Risk and whichever conference has dudez in the most states wins.

 

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:00 PM | We should have gone for (Score:5 Normal)
chitownblue2
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We should have gone for Maine. That could be our Australia.

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November 19th, 2012 at 10:45 AM | I thought I recalled (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 19th, 2012 at 10:47 AM | A joke about the game-board (Score:3 Normal)
chitownblue2
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A joke about the game-board of Risk strikes you as "hysterical"?

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | NO AD (Score:0 Flamebait)
November 19th, 2012 at 10:54 AM | Also, Pitt ain't too shabby (Score:1)
08mms
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Also, Pitt ain't too shabby of a research university....

November 18th, 2012 at 10:03 PM | I always wanted Pitt & Missouri as well (Score:4 Normal)
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Pitt's got AAU membership, 2.4 billion endowment, decent football, a top notch BBall team etc.

I don't necessarily DISLIKE Maryland, but M is a bit more of a cultural leap.  I like to pretend it's 100% about football too, but it actually isn't.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

November 19th, 2012 at 10:27 AM | I don't understand the (Score:2)
Yeoman
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I don't understand the "cultural leap" thing with Maryland. It's a big, state-supported research institution with a solid academic reputation. Aside from geography, that to me pretty much is the definition of a B1G school (with apologies to Northwestern and Chicago).

To me it seems like a natural extension, if we're going to extend, much like Penn State was. Pitt and Syracuse would be natural fits as well, as would Virginia. Rutgers seems a bit lightweight on the academic side compared to the other schools--if any of these isn't an institutional fit, I think it's them.

November 19th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | Dude (Score:3 Normal)
jabberwock
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They eat crabs there . . . I mean they really EAT them!  It's disgusting and unamerican.
/steak&potaoed

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

November 19th, 2012 at 12:04 AM | If you think Rutgers or (Score:1)
RickH
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If you think Rutgers or Maryland is actually bringing in the NYC and DC markets you are mistaken. Too diverse and care more about pro sports. Neither brings new footprints.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:16 PM | I was thinking Pitt too.  (Score:2 Normal)
Jeff09
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I was thinking Pitt too.  Better athletics historically, and closer to our geographic footprint.  Maryland, I just don't get it.

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Not a huge fan of expansion, (Score:2)
wildbackdunesman
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Not a huge fan of expansion, but what does Pitt offer in terms of $?  Seems like we already have the big fish in Pennsylvania.  At least Maryland pushes us into a new area it seems like.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | one day everyone will look (Score:5 Normal)
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one day everyone will look back at this time of college sports and say WTF?????

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November 18th, 2012 at 10:46 PM | One day? (Score:5 Normal)
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You mean tomorrow?

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Dammit, stop this nonsense.  (Score:5 Normal)
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Dammit, stop this nonsense. 

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:09 PM | It's like asking the girl to (Score:0 Normal)
November 18th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | Don't like her? (Score:4 Normal)
ppToilet
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What's wrong with her? She's beautiful. She's rich. She's got huge...tracts of land.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:09 PM | Smotrycz has how much (Score:5 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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Smotrycz has how much eligibility left? 2 years?

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November 18th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | It's funny that this is the (Score:1)
Run 2 Daylight
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It's funny that this is the method people are using to try and displace ESPN from their spot as king of the hill in college football broadcasting. 

Go Blue!

November 18th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | It won't end at 14 (Score:4 Normal)
Don
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Say hello (eventually) to the Big 16. They won't have to change the logo.


November 18th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | If we must get to 16; (Score:2)
wildbackdunesman
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If we must get to 16 (which I don't want to); Maryland is a good fit.  DC is a growing a prosperous area that will pay dividends to tap into.

 

I'd rather stay at 12.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | I heard MD was going into the (Score:2)
BostonWolverine
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I heard MD was going into the leaders division if they join - which sucks. I'd much rather that train wreck be in our division...at least to even out the Penn St. is gonna suck for a while.

 

November 18th, 2012 at 9:25 PM | Disagree.  I think MD has (Score:3 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Disagree.  I think MD has peices to become a good program; they're in an area that has pretty decent talent and few other schools, and more importantly, they have a very rich alum who is the sports buisness willing to sponser their program like Nike did for Oregon.  All it's going to take is the proper coach.  And honestly, Edsall may actually turn out to be a decent choice.  Too early to tell.  Rutgers is overinflated right now because they play in the Big East (an even worse version than previous versions as every single good program bailed).   Remember when Big East champions UConn got stomped by the freaking 2010 UM team.  I'll take Rutgers in our division.

But I think the real issue is a complete divisional re-alignment.  With PSU cratered from the better part of the next decade, the whole competative balance the conference was based on is thrown to hell.

November 18th, 2012 at 9:33 PM | But I'm too dumb for that (Score:5 Normal)
HL2VCTRS
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No!  They can't be in the Leaders division!  The only way I can remember who is in our division is by remembering that it's all the teams that start with "M", "N", and Iowa.  I'm not smart enough to remember that it's all teams that start with "M" - except for Maryland, "N", and Iowa.  Damn it Delany!  First you give them dumb names and now you make it more difficult to remember.

November 19th, 2012 at 4:57 AM | Illinois to Legends ; MD & Rutgers to Leaders (Score:2 Insightful)
markinmsp
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Sorry, I don't like it either, but my information is that Illinois would move to join Northwestern and both Maryland and Rutgers would be put in Leaders. The new crossover guaranteed game pairings would be Illinois-Indiana, Northwestern-Rutgers, and MSU-Maryland.

                                          

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