Hope for Denard's career rushing record
Before we knew what surprises Hoke, Borges, et al. had on Saturday, there was discussion (read: lamentation) of Denard's chances for the rushing record by quarterbacks. Now, with the 98 yards he could be as close as 207 to Pat White.
HOWEVA...in that discussion, people claimed variously that he had 4129 yards or 4175. The reason for this discrepancy was the 46 yards he accumulated last year in his matchup against Alex "Did You Know Graham Couch Is My Mom" Carder & WMU. Some sites count them, and some do not.
We UM fans have always decided to count them (witness the case for Fitz' thousand-yard season). As for the NCAA?
- At the time, it seemed that "the game was called with the result and statistics standing".
- Then they wouldn't.
- Then finally they were again? Hopefully that's where the needle has stopped.
Yet another reason why Iowa has to somehow win Friday: gives him 3 games to get 69 ypg, as opposed to 104 ypg without the B1G championship.
BUT: the bulk of his carries on Saturday came from the running back position. Would the record book make such a distinction? The record IS "yards rushing by a quarterback"...but think of what wrinkles like the wildcat could do to record-keeping...
One would think that wouldn't matter, right? Except that keepers of record books, as we know, love to pick them some nits...
November 18th, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^
One of the reporters tweeted about this on Saturday. I believe it was kmeinke. The NCAA is going to count Denard's rushing yards if he is still listed as a qb on the roster, which is was last Saturday. Whether that remains, who knows, but I think the stats will count, the big factor is that it's only 2-3 more games
November 18th, 2012 at 10:40 PM ^
thanks.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:57 PM ^
Question: Does it matter where the player is listed on the roster in regards to where he's lined up? Couldn't you theoretically list Denard as an OL and give him the career rushing record for an OL? lol
November 19th, 2012 at 2:59 AM ^
Maybe. But why would you want to?
November 19th, 2012 at 8:44 AM ^
Because.
November 19th, 2012 at 10:36 AM ^
Doesn't John Navarre already have that record?
November 18th, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^
His carries on Sat count. Someone from the Daily had that question, and asked the NCAA about it, and as long as Denard is listed as a QB, his stats count toward the QB rushing mark
November 18th, 2012 at 10:32 PM ^
While the record would be nice, us beating Ohio is way more important.
November 18th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
November 18th, 2012 at 10:42 PM ^
I have a feeling that that would take care of both problems at once.
November 19th, 2012 at 12:16 AM ^
Biakabutuka would be proud.
November 19th, 2012 at 12:53 AM ^
How about 348?
November 19th, 2012 at 8:16 AM ^
This is setting up to be an epic finish. I'm thinking in terms of a Tim Biakabatuka legendary performance...
November 18th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
Ok so it wasn't the Daily, it was Rothstein, but here:
NCAA spokesman confirmed as long as Denard Robinson is listed as QB, stats will count toward QB rushing numbers no matter where he lines up.
— Michael Rothstein (@mikerothstein) November 17, 2012
November 18th, 2012 at 10:42 PM ^
I would add "a lot!!" but I just read through all of the Daily and Kyle Meinke's tweets for the last two days and now I want to die.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:00 PM ^
This would be cool and all, but the record probably wouldn't last long. I'm just glad he got to have three straight 1,000-yard seasons. I think Tyrone Wheatley is the last Michigan player to do that.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:13 PM ^
Just reading the title of this post I can only assume that Danny Hope is really pulling for Denard to break the QB rushing record.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:15 PM ^
to beat ohio one more time than have a rushing record and thus, so should we.
The team, the team, the team.
November 19th, 2012 at 12:13 AM ^
What if I told you that the two aren't mutually exclusive and us, as fans, talking about it on an internet message board meant for discussions about Michigan sports will not change Denard's focus?
November 19th, 2012 at 12:38 AM ^
November 19th, 2012 at 8:20 AM ^
Agreed. Clearly, Denard is going to now go out there with his heart set on the rushing record. He's going to be an unstoppable beast doing all he can to rack up yards and move the team down the field. Therefore, he won't be focused at all on the team winning the game. The more yards Denard has, the less likely we are to win the game.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:36 PM ^
If the team takes care of business against Ohio and whoever they play in a bowl game, the record will come. I'm not at all worried about it.
I'm more worried about Michigan winning this saturday so I can listen to all the Ohio fans around me act like the sky is falling for another year.
November 18th, 2012 at 11:45 PM ^
So Denard's receiving yards count as well? Sweet! I hope I see a 60 yard bomb from Devin to Denard to help take care of the record. Go Blue!
November 19th, 2012 at 12:07 AM ^
They'd only count his rushing yards because it's a rushing record, so last Saturday's 98 yards on the ground count toward career rushing by QB but not the 24 receiving yards.
November 19th, 2012 at 1:55 AM ^
What's the record for career receiving yards by a QB? Let's get him that one, too.
November 19th, 2012 at 2:37 AM ^
Iowa could win against Nebraska. Nebraska can sleepwalk in the first half of games. Burkhead still banged up, Martinez still inconsistent. A friday game throws everything off. Weisman seems healthy now. But god that defense is awful what am I saying...they probably won't win, but I guess you never know.
I still think Denard breaks the record if he stays healthy. Fitz now being out (get well soon man!) will give him more opportunities and I'm sure they'll add in more plays and schemes during bowl practices to make sure Denard makes history.
BEAT OHIO
November 19th, 2012 at 8:39 AM ^
I thought defense was supposed to be Iowa's strength. Then again, strength and Iowa in the same sentence doesn't make much sense at all this year.
November 19th, 2012 at 5:57 AM ^
well that's settled. He shall just go for 208 in Columbus. Done.
November 19th, 2012 at 10:47 AM ^
November 19th, 2012 at 10:25 AM ^
in the game against MSU last year? It seems a little ridiculous to think they would go back and check each play to see where he lined up and determine whether his stats for that play came as a "QB"
November 19th, 2012 at 11:44 AM ^
One of the interesting stats that is part of all this would be the fact that Denard Robinson has averaged 90.9 yards rushing per game for his career at Michigan and an average of 116 rushing yards per game this year despite missing time due to injury. I find it remarkable really that, to get to the NCAA quarterback rushing record, it would still entail a slightly below average performance in the remaining games compared to this years numbers, and only a slightly above average performance based on his career averages. If anyone is interested, to cover the necessary 208 yards, if Denard kept the pace of his career average of 6.2 YPC, that would be 34 carries, or based on this year's average of 7.3 YPC, 29 carries. So, basically, an estimated 30 or so carries for some decent yardage would be potentially sufficient.