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If he does leave I…

If he does leave I understand - but I really want him and JJ to stay…

I find funny how Tony and…

I find funny how Tony and other OSU commenters believe the 6 point margin of victory is further proof that the last two years with larger margins is a result of stolen signs… conveniently forgetting one major difference - Harbaugh on the sidelines worth more than any Stalion shenanigans.

Pretty sure Jim won’t have…

Pretty sure Jim won’t have to say anything as the fans will be screaming F_ _ _ Pet-TEE-TEE during the exchange. Personally I would rather just hear a chorus of boos when his name is announced.

Non-lawyer take. Something…

Non-lawyer take. Something came up that we are not aware of.  If nothing changed between last week and this in terms of the facts, then it would make no sense to back out of the court proceeding at the last minute. At least not based on what we've been told. It is very strange to put the fans, alumni, and supporters in this kind of position - it destroys credibility, and the solidarity that had been built, the decision makers must know this, so to do it - in light of this, means there is something we don't know. Could be many things, but I don't like what it implies.  

"The Conference agreed to close its investigation, and the University and Coach Harbaugh agreed to accept the three-game suspension. Coach Harbaugh, with the University's support, decided to accept this sanction to return the focus to our student-athletes and their performance on the field."

This statement does not align with what they were saying for more than one week. Also Harbaugh was under no obligation to go to the court proceeding, so it wasn't about more time coaching. 

Wait - so maybe 🤔 We have…

Wait - so maybe 🤔 We have figured out a way for Jim to be back on the sidelines for OSU. They punished Michigan because he is the head coach but after a win this weekend Moore will have been the head coach for 3 games this year - so they can bring Harbaugh back as an temporary HC while Moore takes the University’s punishment as the acting HC. And we will announce this - 5 minutes before the game…

Something more is going on…

Something more is going on. We had the entire university, fans, alumni behind this - the money on lawyers has already been spent - why pull out the day before the court hearing. Makes little sense unless something more going on that hasn’t come out yet.  Harbaugh didn’t even have to be at the hearing.  Maybe court indicated how they might rule… but even that would have been worth the try.  Why not follow through - what is going on.  It’s bullshit the statement by Michigan - if that were true now then it was true last week and they never go to court.  Feels like a game of chicken that we just lost.  

QB Allar running back Allen …

QB Allar running back Allen - very confusing.

The real question is would…

The real question is would this have been the same playcalling with Harbaugh here.

They also missed a big hold…

They also missed a big hold on the left there.

 

This thing is so ugly.  It…

This thing is so ugly.  It seems like he will miss Penn State and Maryland - then the courts will act just in time to get him back for Ohio State.

How does this not play out…

How does this not play out to where we end up with a Big 10 Conference with a Pacific Coast Division?  Then back to where we started.

WTF - the game just…

WTF - the game just disappeared on online feed and went to baseball and now I can’t find a feed.  Are they not showing the OT?

 

No way.  Lloyd Carr record…

No way.  Lloyd Carr record at Michigan 122 - 40 over 13 years - that's an average of over 9 wins per season 3 losses.  2006 - classic game of all time against OSU a day after Bo dies, coulda should won that game.  In the year he retires - we beat the defending National Championship team Florida with Tebow.  I don't get all the people that don't appreciate what Lloyd did for Michigan.  5 Big 10 titles, 1 national title.  How many NFL players did his program produce, not only that but of what quality were the players - how about the GOAT of all time.  Or better yet how many years did Michigan's players that went to NFL play in total.  And by trailing off at the end of his career - he had 6 players drafted in 2007. 

play.  https://mgoblue.com/news/2008/4/19/lloyd_carr_and_the_national_football_league_draft.aspx

 

This isn't an NCAA thing -…

This isn't an NCAA thing - it is a student visa issue.  The US government allows students to learn but  not earn.  I think they would need to apply for a work visa to be able to earn while in the US.  

I don't know but with his…

I don't know but with his personality he seems like he would bet a good replacement for Brian Kelly.

Thank you for this.  I grew…

Thank you for this.  I grew up a Michigan fan, and a big part of that was because of the personality and leadership of Bo Schembechler.  Over time I've read most of his books on leadership turbo charging my appreciation of what it means to be a Michigan Man or Women.  I went to Michigan for an MBA from 2000-2002, and was equally as proud of the leadership that Lloyd Carr brought to the team.  All of this to say, Harbaugh exhibits many of the traits of the legendary coach Bo Schembechler and this is exactly what Michigan needs.  It has been painful at times to be a Michigan fan and I'm very proud of the way this team has performed this year.  It's a dream year and it may not happen as regularly as it should or could, but in many ways that is what makes it even more special.  

Isn't this just one fan or…

Isn't this just one fan or two writing to an editor- not sure this is a widely held (no pun intended) view.  That said seems like it is common that the offensive lines are holding, the questions is rather whether it is called fairly for both teams.

Very interesting.  It is…

Very interesting.  It is clear that MSU fans think the Michigan game is everything...they just haven't figured out the rest of country doesn't see it that way.  Walker would have been there if he had continued to produce, had they not lost to Purdue and so emphatically to Ohio State.  That they act like it is so crazy that the best player in College football would be invited, says it all.  He will in all likelihood be drafted first in the first round for NFL, probably deserves to be a Heisman finalist.  Not to mention his PFF ratings.

Anybody at the game?  What’s…

Anybody at the game?  What’s the estimate of Michigan fans versus Iowa in the stadium… I heard Iowas folks all week saying they would dominate.

Go Blue!

Go Blue!

Yes this is what Harbaugh… Yes this is what Harbaugh said plus, I didn’t see this as running up score, they had to run plays there was a lot time left. They just kept going with game plan and eventually got second string in there. Iowa gave up, that’s not our fault.
I agree with this.  We have…

I agree with this.  We have only looked better these last two games, we have won some big away games and vanquished our biggest rival who I dare say the prognosticators gave us less of a chance than Alabama to beat Georgia.  Alabama has looked shaky all season and their loss was to an unranked team. We deserve to move up and so does Alabama.  I think the committee could get behind this and the 4th team in, Georgia, is the only one that didn’t win a conference Championship - fair.  We play Georgia then likely Alabama - we win those two and that is the stuff that legends are made of.  I’d rather have the extra time for coaches to get team ready for Georgia than Cincinnati. And Alabama is well… Alabama.  If there is a year we are going to beat them it’s this one right here.  Heisman goes to Bryce Young with Hutchinson a runner up and the final puts those two against each other for all the marbles.

Run, run, run, field goal……

Run, run, run, field goal… B10 champs.

I would like to see more -…

I would like to see more - Iowa has come back from down a couple scores on multiple occasions this year.  Nebraska up 21-6, Iowa scores 19 in 4th quarter.  Penn State up 17-3 loses 20-23.  

Thanks for doing the check -…

Thanks for doing the check - that was how I figured it would come out.  Yes, would not have felt the same way it does now playing this week for the B10.

Thanks for the advice.  My…

Thanks for the advice.  My advice, just enjoy the fact that we won The Game and have the opportunities we do in front of us.  I wasn't complaining about the down votes, doesn't really bother me.  And, no there were no other posts related to Purdue, I looked and I thought this was an overlooked aspect of why we are where we are right now that hasn't been addressed.  

Sorry man, got to say…

Sorry man, got to say downvoting because you think I'm jinxing us... ok, you glanced over the part where I said I know we have get past Iowa first so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But man, I live in Switzerland now and have been a Michigan football fan all my life, graduated from there in 2002 and so I'm willing to start planning now for something doesn't come along very often.  And I'm willing to believe they are going to get it done this weekend, and have faith in the team.  It's not a given, but hey I want to be prepared and not end up paying $4,000 for a ticket.  

I don't know about anyone…

I don't know about anyone else, but I am also thoroughly enjoying watching the Ohio State talking heads implode and call for a thorough restructuring of their coaching staff - firing nearly all the defensive guys.  The overreaction, never once putting it in perspective that they had a part in creating this too.  They created the apathy towards the game, the right of passage, it was just going to be handed to them every year, there was nothing Michigan could do about it.  And when we did, well now their overreaction could actually benefit Michigan in the long run.  It is also interesting how they think they can just throw money at the problem and can go out and get anyone they want to coach for them.  I think they are really missing the big picture here.  They are not going to win that game every year no matter who they have on their coaching staff.  One comment from Tony Gerdman that resonated is that he believes that we Michigan just awoke the "Sleeping Giant" the only problem is did they awake the Ohio State sleeping giant or the Michigan sleeping giant.  Time will tell.  

I should have added that the…

I should have added that the counter argument to this is - had Purdue not beaten Michigan State - Michigan would still be 11-1, would not be playing Iowa for the B10 championship this weekend, likely OSU, and yet would still be in the college football playoff picture, as Ohio State would still have two losses, and Michigan State's performance against OSU the week before would have dropped them below Michigan.

In other words we might have already been a lock for the College Football Playoff.

Frankly if we can get in the…

Frankly if we can get in the playoffs bring on Bama.  Let’s slay all our demons this season.

All I know is that I think…

All I know is that I think MSU is the most prescient here, offering Tucker $95 million, where he may end up being the only coach to beat the National Champion Michigan Wolverines this year.

No offense - but I would be…

No offense - but I would be shocked if he does get credit for beating or to tie Johnson's record.  I don't think the B10 championship game would count in the season stats.  Don't know how that game fits in or the bowls as well, but I assume they don't count as season.

Great call - or maybe he can…

Great call - or maybe he can go in as our fullback for a 1 yard TD, or heck even at QB for a sneak.

I think what was…

I think what was inconceivable was I don’t remember any let down by our offense the whole game.  There was not a bad stretch for them the entire game.

Well, my only concern - we…

Well, my only concern - we haven’t done well against ranked teams that have lost to Purdue.

I was worried we would see…

I was worried we would see Wisconsin a second time - and that they would be such a different team than we saw earlier in the year, but nope IOWA.  Interesting.  Like you said - I think on paper this is better for us.

Sorry to be nit picky - but…

Sorry to be nit picky - but we were behind 10-7 in 2nd quarter… not for long though.

Aidan Hutchinson saw this…

Aidan Hutchinson saw this coming - he says he visualized exactly what happened, except he envisioned the crowd taking the goals posts coming down - which I don't think happened.  I was always one to support Lloyd Carr as well, and I support Harbaugh the same way because of the way he competes.  It doesn't always go their way, but they are winners.  I was at the 2006 and 2016 games in Columbus - and they were heartbreakers we coulda, shoulda, woulda won.  2016 I consider a victory that was taken away by the refs in Columbus. I also don't think MSU this year or the crazy punt were on Harbaugh.  If you call those victories for Harbaugh - he's record is different.  2016 is really a killer because it could have totally changed the course of the future with recruits etc.

To all those Fire Harbaugh…

To all those Fire Harbaugh so called fans all season long bitching and moaning… eat a big one!

ha - I read because believe…

ha - I read because believe it or not George Custer is a distant cousin of mine.  And my dad grandpa etc. have read much about his life.  It is a shame that he is so maligned by history, but that’s the way that it goes.

Let’s get this one Wolverines…. Come on you Wolverines!!!

Plus I think all eyes are on…

Plus I think all eyes are on us and the world is expecting us to get crushed.  I hope that will be good for us the players and coaches.  This should free them up a bit.  I don’t fault Harbaugh for not beating OSU.  I was at the game in 2016 and that was a victory that was completely stolen by the refs at the end of the game.  And there is no coach in the land that has a great record over the Buckeyes in the last 10 years.  They rarely lose to anyone.

I was optimistic until I…

I was optimistic until I watched the entire first half of OSU v MSU.  It was just a complete whooping.  The talent on offense that OSU has I just don’t know how we can hope to hold them below 40 pts.  The chance of us outscoring them are slim.  We need somewhat of a miracle.  Good refs making good calls.  The best game of the year from our defense, and of course a whole lot of surprised on offense.  Michigan has to play to win from the beginning, if that means McCarthy plays a lot and throws deep to take some chances I’ll take it.  We have to bring something they dont’ expect or we will not win.  

Yeah - which coach has a…

Yeah - which coach has a great record against OSU over the last 10-20 years.  Or even a winning record.

The likelihood of a three…

The likelihood of a three way tie went out the window with MSU loss to Purdue.  Most likely scenario creating a tie is only one of Michigan or MSU beats OSU.  If both beat OSU then only MSU and Michigan would be tied.  Only a crazy scenario where they both beat OSU and both lose their other two games Maryland and Penn State gives three way tie.

The played Nebraska a couple…

The played Nebraska a couple of weeks ago and Nebraska was down 17-23 at end of the third.  I agree they aren't the same team week to week - I hope that MSU takes a lot out of them.

https://www.cleveland19.com…

https://www.cleveland19.com/story/5755772/osu-goes-back-to-artificial-turf/

 

Not sure but they grew it longer before The Game.

This is exactly what OSU did…

This is exactly what OSU did in 2006 to slow down Henne to Manningham connection and it worked.  3 overthrows in first half.

Massey ratings reference…

Massey ratings reference further below gives almost the same result - only higher 39% Michigan wins both games.

yes, what do you suggest - I…

yes, what do you suggest - I'm surprised I'm getting dinged just on the post...

Nebraska played them tight…

Nebraska played them tight too.