Says the Minnesota Star Tribune. Link
fair point that
Says the Minnesota Star Tribune. Link
Just a heads up, you linked to the second page of the article (which ends pretty quickly). May want to change the link.
Miller's a good writer.
And he's right.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, he even has 2 and 3 sentence paragraphs!!!
Uh oh, Hoke's in our heads!
Keep it coming coach Hoke
I hope we don't get so arrogant that we accidently start winning again...
His statement did have a point: just because our opponents feared our coach does not mean that the coach should actually be feared. What his statement lacked was a counter-point to your statement.
...is one chill kangaroo, with his mind on his money and his money on his mind.
I bet in his relaxed state of mind, the other kangaroo's would consider him cocky, perhaps maybe even a little bit arrogant.
He is just getting his Prettyman on.
We call it swagger.
I've been here the whole time, baby!
You gotta show your face around here more often, or else people think you left.
Word choice dude.
Arrogance is the act of exaggerating self-importance, an attitude of superiority, presumptuous claims and assumptions. This is why people who are arrogant sound like they're talking out of a horse's ass, and everyone cheers when they get curb-stomped by Appalachian State.
Confidence is a quality or state of knowing and being certain.
There's a difference in being sure of yourself and your superiority versus spouting off about how superior you think you are to everybody else. Is that what Hoke has been doing? I don't think so.
Your post confuses me.
Are you saying Hoke's word choice is bad? Did we get curb stomped by App St.? (Losing was bad enough, I'd hate to learn years after the fact that we got smoked by then.) Who is the "dude?" Does he abide?
Hoke sounds arrogant when he says, "This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is..." I'm ok with arrogant as long as he wins games. I hate opposing coaches when they're arrogant because that's what I'm supposed to do as a fan.
He's saying arrogance is a byproduct of confidence. He was also stating we were arrogant, but we aren't becoming arrogant right now. We are merely becoming confident.
Cocky confidence? Some people confuse the two. The difference is walking the walk when you talk the talk. So far regarding recruiting and only recruiting, Hoke can probably talk with Cocky confidence.
I find myself saying again, the App State loss only mattered BECAUSE " This is michigan, dammit".
James Madison beat the wheels off Va Tech last year. Who remembers? Those teams, their fans, and me. Thats about it, because Va Tech isn't michigan.
Michigan is confident in themselves, and we feel we deserve a winning program because we have always supported our program like schools that win, do. We further feel we deserve hard earned respect from at least the other members in the B1G, if not the country, because as far as I know, there is no school out there with a winning record against us that have played at least 10 times. I could be wrong, maybe USC, we seem to keep pulling them in rose bowls.
However, when damn near no one in the country can claim anything like success against you, well, that makes you confident you can go out and win any saturday, and most January 1sts.
And furthermore, as befits my hundredth point, I reply to the wrong post.
.....and the point is?
Call it arrogance if you like. We're Michigan. No apologies.
Family Value is Arrogance?
Which values winning.
My mother in law seems to have it in spades
Bring it on!
I love the fact that people can't stop talking about Hoke. Means he's on their minds all the time. That's the first step down the road of fear. Keep up the good work Coach.
Boom. That just happened.
Come Oct 1st we will see if the Gophers feel like talking quite as much. Good Luck to coach Kill.
I cut those poor people some slack--there is not a team in the entire state they can feel good about. Well, maybe Bemidji kills it at volleyball, for all I know, but generally Minnesotans have been a miserable lot. No wonder they freaked when they thought the shutdown might mean an end to alcohol sales.
I accidentally clicked "moderate" for your post. I'm assuming I didn't diss you accidentally, 'cuz I think this schedule poster absolutely rocks! I'm also confidently arrogant that we'll be playing on Dec. 3.
I forgot that we go to a 13 game regular season schedule in 2012. Absolutely no by weeks at all, brutal!
And if the Big Ten isn't adding the 9th conference game until 2017, that means 5 years of 4 cream puffs and ND. Or in that time do we lose ND for a couple years? Maybe we'll have more high profile games at a neutral site in the future?
Wow, I didn't know that. Starting next year we will have to play 15 games, 13 regular, Big Ten Championship, and a bowl
. Yet the NCAA won't go to a playoff because they say it would be to many games. How about you drop two of those games and they have a playoff.
Either 9/15 or 9/29 will be a bye. I don't think being Alabama allows UM to play 5 non-conference teams.
I think the only time now that you have the opportunity to play 5 non-conference games is if one of them is an away game at Hawaii.
I'd love the 15th to be a bye so UM has 2 weeks to get ready for ND.
It would add a nice touch if beside our opponents' names it said "(this is not Michigan)".
We're Michigan. We're the best. Why shouldn't we be arrogant?
My perception has always been that "arrogance" has been Michigan's reputation throughout its football history. OSU was the uneducated blue collar steel workers, while Michigan had the fancy school with the great degrees of children of the rich automotive workers. This "arrogance" has fueled schools such as Stanford, USC, and Notre Dame to become elite in both the academic and athletic realms. These schools are great at both, know they're great at both, sell themselves by saying they're great at both, and Michigan should be no different.
If you sit at recruits dinner tables talking up your school, then they see you on TV being arrogant in the same way about how great the school is, that's what you call validating the recruiting sales pitches. You know that D'antonio and the guy formerly known as Tressel sell parents on the "worldly education," but they sure as hell wouldn't say that to the media.
GO HOKE!!! UMich is in elite company and should be sold that way. If you're a Mercedes salesman, you're not going to be modest and talk about how your product on par with a Kia.
When you're a perennial bottom-feeder like Minnesota, everyone in the Big Ten probably seems "arrogant."
I'll feel more arrogant about football after we start beating MSU and TSIO regularly.
Debbie Downer, is that you?
I think Stanford would have something to say about this.......
Not sure where the "Trolling" tags are coming from. Stanford has ridiculous academics/athletics/etc. Not to mention one of the most beautiful campuses in the country.
Well said, but to be fair, Stanford's football attendance is rather lacking. Now, if you want to make an argument that there is no better combination of football and academics, I'd definitely agree.
Aside from Stanford, Texas and North Carolina also combine outstanding academic reputations with success in athletics. But f**k Texas and North Carolina.
No, I think athletics is the appropriate term: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_schools_offer_the_most_NCAA_varsity_sports
USC and UCLA are up there too. They don't quite have our grad programs, but their undergrads are arguably superior to UMich's.
You didn't say football though, you said sports. According to the NACDA (AD's) Stanford has hands-down the most successful athletic department in the country.
Good luck not getting negged; saying "I'm a better person than you" is probably a good place to start.
Actually, the rankings just came out and the top two public universities are, first, University of Virginia and, second, UCLA. So there's that.
You might have more credibility if you could decide whether you're a Michigan fan or a Purdue fan.