Does Penn State have a chance to beat State next weekend?

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Maybe they will try to test MSU's corners more than OSU did. And their D-Line with Zettel etc. may be able to do a better job holding up against the run.

arigoldforpresident

November 21st, 2015 at 7:44 PM ^

Anything can happen. Penn state has a good defense and as we've seen today, games get wild with good defenses

Don

November 21st, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^

but don't kid yourself—it's a minuscule chance. MSU will have to turn the ball over six times for PSU to even be close in the 4th quarter.

Dantonio's a very good coach with a strong staff. I don't see them blowing this at home against a team with obvious weaknesses like PSU.

Rodriguesqe

November 21st, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^

If Cook doesn't play, definitely. OSU has looked iffy all year. Losing at home to a Cookless Sparty team confirms they were overrated.

Will MSU have trouble getting up for them?

Does Hackenberg even want to play this game?

I think line opens at Sparty -6 accounting for Cook's unknown status.

teldar

November 21st, 2015 at 7:47 PM ^

It'd be a lot better if hack could evade SOME rush... but msu's weakness is pass defense. Psu's strength is passing. So... Damn buckeyes. All they had to do was not suck.

FrankMurphy

November 21st, 2015 at 7:48 PM ^

The reversal of Zettel's ejection actually works in our favor in the long run, since it gives PSU more than a snowball's chance in hell at pulling the upset (though not much more). Interesting twist of fate.

LSAClassOf2000

November 21st, 2015 at 7:50 PM ^

Well, it may very well trend downwards after the site has updated, but the estimated chances of a PSU win next week stand at 20% on Massey Ratings right now. Granted, football is a weird sport sometimes and maybe Hackenburg finds some rhythm and exploits MSU's secondary, but it isn't terribly likely. Even less likely now, I bet. 

bronxblue

November 21st, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^

Sure.  If Cook remains hurt, then it's not like MSU set the world on fire offensively, and PSU's defense is good enough to beat a team like MSU.  It's highly unlikely, but MSU has been incredibly lucky all year; at some point that can swing the other way.  They already lost to an inferior team in Nebraska, who says it can't happen again.

That said, I doubt it highly.  Iowa might be able to beat them, but not this piss-poor PSU offense.

MJ14

November 21st, 2015 at 9:28 PM ^

A better QB? Who exactly would you have them get? If Hackenburg played on a better team he would be a top 10 NFL draft pick. There's maybe only two guys in college ball who can pick apart a defense like Hack can, when given time. He's the perfect QB to take down MSU's weak secondary. 

maize-blue

November 21st, 2015 at 7:56 PM ^

If they watch the Neb. - MSU game film and go deep, they have a chance. Or if they take the OSU route, don't watch any film and run into the D-line again and again, they don't.

alum96

November 21st, 2015 at 7:57 PM ^

Dude PSU won by 1 vs MD on the road.  Maryland!!!!!!!!

Get real.

MSU has superior lines and at this point I'd take O'Connor over Hack.  He is broken.  Its on the road for a team re-energized for playoff push vs a team playing for nothing. 

 

 

McSomething

November 21st, 2015 at 7:58 PM ^

If Penn State doesn't get an offensive line worth half a shit, they won't be able to score enough to win. Unless a shitshow officiating effort keeps them in the game long enough to pull off the upset.

UMForLife

November 21st, 2015 at 7:59 PM ^

If their OL can hold up, then yes. For some reason, OSU did not use Elliott much. I don't know why. PSU should just run the ball and control the clock. PSU DL is better than OSU's DL, based on what I saw today. If Cook is not playing and PSU stack up the box and the REFS from Nebraska game show up to PSU game, then yes, they have a good chance.

Hack is still a good QB. The only guy in the conference who can match up to Cook is Hack. May be he will play the best game of his life in the last game. Who knows. If he does, then I think PSU can win.

But I would give it 20% chance.

Weird things happen in College Football. PSU still have many good athletes. So, there is a chance.

Moonlight Graham

November 21st, 2015 at 8:03 PM ^

Dantonio vs. Franklin is not a fair fight. Penn State players would need to band together and play way above their heads, and if they were capable of doing that I would think they would have done it today, at home, on senior day.



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bluewithenvy

November 21st, 2015 at 8:05 PM ^

well as they say, any given Saturday.... PSU's OL needs to give Hackenberg enough time to throw downfield. If that happens, PSU has a great chance. If Hackenberg is on his back all game, it'll be up to the PSU RBs to make things happen against a stout MSU dline, and well I don't like their chances at that point.

snowcrash

November 21st, 2015 at 8:14 PM ^

Defensively, PSU and MSU are similar. Very strong lines, ok back 7s. Offensively, MSU has a better line but PSU has the better QB and RB at least if Cook isn't close to 100%. This game should be a pretty even match.

If Cook is back to being Cook, MSU has the edge.

NittanyFan

November 21st, 2015 at 8:15 PM ^

in the season finale as a 24-point underdog.  Wisconsin had an Orange Bowl bid guaranteed if they won, but PSU came in and won convincingly.

Of course, that was a Bill O'Brien coached team.  Franklin is not O'Brien.

One thing that will be in common: I was in Madison in 2013, and I'll be in East Lansing in 2015.  I'll try to bring some good luck!

RJWolvie

November 21st, 2015 at 8:26 PM ^

Well, like a coach kept sayin in one of this week's pressers, think it was ST coach, the ball ain't round, so of course they have a chance. Will they: nope. Like it or not, everything (except Nebraska) is coming up Sparty's way this year. Friggin bastards. Hate em. Really hate em. But only fun part may be watching their heads explode, every one, when they win the B1G champ game & get passed by for Oklahoma & (ND -- bah: they suck too -- or someone) plus Ala & the Clem



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Mcruel

November 21st, 2015 at 8:27 PM ^

Shoulder injuries take a long time to heal...if Sparty is playing inexperienced QB's, you have no idea how many picks or fumbles they might have. 

It was a monsoon tonight...they didn't HAVE to throw...could be very different in PSU players come to play.

jsquigg

November 21st, 2015 at 8:32 PM ^

Wow, there are a lot of negative attitudes around here.  MSU coming off an emotional win thinking they have it wrapped up could definitely lose.  Anything can happen.

doggdetroit

November 21st, 2015 at 9:18 PM ^

I think people are thinking rationally. MSU just beat a superior team on the road without Cook. With or without him, MSU will face a clearly inferior team at home. If there is one area of MSU's defense that has been good this year it is the defensive line. We just saw Michigan manhandle PSU's offensive line. But now all of a sudden, that same line is going to handle MSU's d-line?

It's college football and strange things happen, but come on.