College Gameday (Open) Thread
It's 10:50 now.
FYI for those that care to watch...a preview on Michigan is coming up soon. They're going to give their take on our "offensive woes."
Edit: Didn't say anything of note, but Desmond Howard very uncomfortably called out Borges. Clearly wanting to say more, but wanting to keep it professional...less "homer"...and not ruffle too many maize and blue feathers. Did say Borges needs to earn his check (3rd highest paid OC in the country), he acknoledged the youth...but said Borges gets paid to figure out the problem. Repeated that Borges needs to use weapons and outscheme defenses.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
I think he threw him in the road, climbed in the driver's seat, ran him over, then backed up over him again....
November 16th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^
rather than saying that he threw him under the bus.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
"When you're the 3rd highest paid coordinator [Borges], you're paid to figure it out."
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
3rd highest paid coordinator in the country?
oh man. 1%
November 16th, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
As I recall, he originally made $350,000 in 2011, then got the rather hefty raise in 2012 to $650,000. The contract also called for $50,000 per year in additional salary (not counting performance bonuses like bowl appearances) after that. So, he should be at $700,000 this year, I would think. Yeah....that's all I have right now.
November 16th, 2013 at 2:30 PM ^
I misunderstood the 3rd highest paid OC, not coordinator. Most of the highest-paid are DCs (only Cam Cameron of the highest-paid coordinators below is on the offensive side of the ball):
- Chad Morris: $1.3065 million
- Cam Cameron: $1.13 million
- Kirby Smart $950,000
- John Chavis $911,250
- Todd Granthan $825,000
- Brent Venables $800,000
- Ellis Johnson $800,000
- Luke Fickell $761,000
- Greg Mattison $758,900
- Justin Wilcox $750,000
November 16th, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^
Never have so many dollars died in the service of achieving so little.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
Wow, Desmond straight up calling out Borges on National TV.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
Amen Desmond!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
Thank you, Des.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
Atta boy! Light some fires under some asses. Our coaches have been too complacent.
Happy with the playcalling my ass.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
thank you!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
Thank you Desmond!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^
Des' open letter to Borges. Left the other three speechless!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
I swear I only hit save once
November 16th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^
I suck.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
I <3 Desmond
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
Des for OC!!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
While he said he wasn't calling for Borges' replacement, he pretty clearly was...
November 16th, 2013 at 11:53 AM ^
He paused...then didn't even say no. He said "I didn't say that."
November 16th, 2013 at 12:08 PM ^
It was a final warning.
It was a "Don't think your're just going to sit on your ass and tell us to go away for two years and everything will be just fine someday down the road. You're the third highest paid OC RIGHT NOW. We're not going to just hang out while you think you're going to have 24 Spring Games in a row to figure things out."
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
That was a bunch of nothing.
Dez called out Borges, clearly uncomfortable and wanting to say more, but said he's the 3rd highest paid OC in the country and needs to earn his check. Needs to outscheme defenses and while youth is a factor, he needs to figure out a way to overcome it.
Delete thread. A bunch of nothing.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:54 AM ^
I thought he did well. It was simple. He didn't let his emotions get the best of him on national television. He conveyed a message we're all thinking though and did it in a compsed manner. It wasn't a message filled with hate and contempt and fury that we'd love to see but that wouldn't be productive for the fan base and we/he would regret that.
November 16th, 2013 at 12:23 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
Preach, Tommy Frazier- I mean Desmond Howard!
November 16th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^
Love it, that was awesome
November 16th, 2013 at 11:50 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:50 AM ^
"No." (Yes) "Borges needs to start justifying his paycheck." (Fires his ass.)
Silent agreement from the whloe panel.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:58 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
while Howard said what we all have been thinking I would hate to fall back into the days of former players bitching about current coaches cause we've already seen how well that worked out last time...
jdon
November 16th, 2013 at 12:13 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:51 AM ^
The quote from Desmond "You have to out coach your opponent, you have to out scheme your opponent" about Al Borges & Michigan and also mentioning he is expected to do this with his salary. Hurts to hear it from an alumni/past player.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:52 AM ^
Hoke loves Borges and loves his play calling-remember?
November 16th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^
I'm being honest.
Hoke knows as much about offense as Rich Rod did about defense.
Which is why BOTH can be successful, but they basically need a co-head coach on the other side of the ball.
November 16th, 2013 at 12:02 PM ^
He's the head coach who's responsible for the team that trots out onto the field week after week. I'm positive he knows all about the offensive game plan. What else would he be doing all week? This is just a narrative meant to defend Hoke's head coaching job for the moment.
And Rich Rodriguez played defensive back at West Virginia. I'm sure he knows quite a bit about defense.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 12:24 PM ^
Which also speaks volumes about you mr wishful thinker
November 16th, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^
Des calling out Borges was the best.
November 16th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^
Desmond "heisman" howard gets it..loves hoke and threw borges under the bus.Al is done if we dont win at least 3 of the next four games left..book it dan!!!..he was 100 percent right and didnt bring up hoke to keep is name intact..brady is going anywhere for another 3 years atleast..i bet money..al is done and mattison is under contract til 2017 i believe
November 16th, 2013 at 12:01 PM ^