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By Brian — November 8th, 2008 at 4:23 PM — 47 comments

I know we just beat Minnesota and that's not usually cause for celebration, but, uh… you know what's happened this year. Anything is cause for celebration.

So:

And you can't have one without the other:

Nick Sheridan is in search of a new nickname, and the Jug is safe until 2011.  And Michigan comprehensively whipped some other team. WIN.

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November 8th, 2008 at 4:29 PM | Short swing passes (Score:1)
gmbblue
Joined: 07/01/2008
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I dont think you can state how important it is in this offense for those to be accurate and quick release.....Threet can't do that.  In fact it was strange to see a qb actual read his progressions.  Sheridan has been bad, but today he was borderline good.  WTF did that come from.  

 Heck Feagin ran with power and confidence even. 

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:32 PM | Difference (Score:1)
mvp
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The difference between throwing the screens behind the recievers and hitting them in stride is the difference between negative yards and +3 or +5.  It was huge today.

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November 8th, 2008 at 8:10 PM | You're right (Score:1)
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Of course, the other big difference was a couple of dropped interceptions by Minnesota.  Sheridan looked much better in the 2nd half (comfort level??).  I was one of those 8 win believers prior to the season, expecting them to run the ball better and put it together sooner. 

Today was really encouraging.  I'll bet we're favored next week and even have a snowball's chance in hell against the Buckeyes.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

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November 8th, 2008 at 4:38 PM | I love these clips. They (Score:1)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
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I love these clips. They should be used after all victories, no matter how uninspiring.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:31 PM | Temptation/War Chant (Score:1)
mvp
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Yeah, Brian talked about re-posting them with every win.  I know that was a while ago...  Still: Bring on the Muppets!!!

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November 8th, 2008 at 4:40 PM | The defense was dominant, (Score:1)
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The defense was dominant, which to me is the main reason we won.  I saw flashes of this defense in the Wisconsin, Utah, and Miami games.  Go blue.

Pete

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:09 PM | Nick Sheri-can win a game for (Score:1)
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Nick Sheri-can win a game for us

i only respect other superfans

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:19 PM | A complete game. Thank you. (Score:1)
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That, my fellow Wolverine fans, was (finally!) the first complete game of the year by the team.  Yeah, it is Minnesota and all that, but had we played this way for four quarters in most games, things would have been much, much different this year.   Very encouraging to say the least.

Proud member of the 6/30/2008 circle of trust.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:47 PM | well... (Score:1)
DY
Joined: 07/01/2008
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I'd like to see sub-30 yard field goals turn into TD drives and the ability to complete passes more than 10 yards downfield (without it being a moonball), but you're right this was the best they've played collectively all season.

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:21 PM | Woo (Score:1)
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May I just say "Woo!"

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:27 PM | You know, I don't think (Score:1)
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You know, I don't think Sheridan was borderline good.  There's no "borderline."  He was simply good!  I can really only think of one cringeworthy pass, and if you give him a few of those drops, he'd have pushed 300 yards.  He threw dowfield with confidence and authority.  I was impressed, and have hope for him.  Dare I say, I thought he played better than I've seen Threet play so far.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:29 PM | Classification (Score:1)
mvp
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The thing is, he did what we needed him to do.  He doesn't have a cannon and his downfield throws hang but he got it done today.  Great effort from the TEAM though, was the deciding factor in this win.

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:37 PM | Sheridan wasn't Death (Score:1)
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Let's not get carried away with Sheridan's performance.  The best thing he did was not throw an interception, despite a few close calls.  Minnesota defenders dropped as many passes as Michigan receivers.

A great job by Sheridan managing the game today though, and a win is a win is a win.  The defense was excellent, playing high-energy all game.

 I wouldn't mind a little more Michael Shaw in my life, the kid has speed and the ability to finish a run.  It was nice to see a Michigan player shift the ball to the outside hand one time this season. 

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November 8th, 2008 at 5:58 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
ruds
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Sheridan was decent, but he made some really bad decisions in the pocket. On the other hand, I definitely thought he made some really great decisions on the run. Why was he better on broken plays?

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:23 PM | Just a WAG as to why Sheridan is better on broken plays (Score:1)
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the photo of Threet and Sheridan, Sheridan is significantly shorter.  Many short QBs like Tarkentan and Flutie were better outside of the pocket, probably as they can see the field better not having to look over a bunch of offensive and defensive linemen.  Just a guess based on virtually nothing, though.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:00 PM | I think RR wants more Shaw (Score:1)
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I think RR wants more Shaw too.  Hope he can stay healthy.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:00 PM | Short passes agreed (Score:1)
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Yes, I think the biggest change between Sheridan today and Threet in bad games was Sheridan threw those bubble screens and short throws with a quick release (not necessarily a lot of zip) and into the receiver's stride. Once we were hitting those short flares and screens in stride so that the receiver could just take off upfield, you could see by the second quarter the safeties and corners were cheating big time up, and then Sheridan was able to lollypop enough downfield throws to induce some scare in the Minnesota DB's & LB's, making them backoff, openingn up the short stuff again. Vicious circle offense in effect.

"So I come out of Ohio Stadium after we beat the Buckeyes, and right there on the hood of my friend's car, some one took a dump, in the shape of an 'O'. no shit. Oh, sorry, bad pun."

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:12 PM | New Nickname (Score:1)
Pfax
Joined: 07/21/2008
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I don't think he deserves an ingratiating nickname, yet, but certainly not DEATH.  SheriDAMMIT works.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:16 PM | On the slant that was almost (Score:1)
gmbblue
Joined: 07/01/2008
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On the slant that was almost picked off I think Clemons was at least as much of a culprit on that one.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:24 PM | The Jug (Score:1)
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Wouldn't "The Jug" be a fitting nickname for Sheridan?

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:38 PM | Don't know about Sheridan (Score:1)
DY
Joined: 07/01/2008
MGoPoints: 59

but my buddy coined Justin "More Than a" Feagin.

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November 8th, 2008 at 7:14 PM | It's pronounced "fay-gin" (Score:1)
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It's pronounced "fay-gin" though.

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November 8th, 2008 at 6:53 PM | And most notably (aside from the win) (Score:1)
plev72
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Caughty by X - a true freshman

run by X2 for multiple yards - a true freshman

returned by x3 - a true freshman

For any naysayers - I think this game is just highlighted how many quality Freshman we've got who will be outstanding as "veteran" players over the next three years of their careers.

Detroit Born Michigan Bred Go Blue! Class of '95

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November 8th, 2008 at 7:02 PM | You forgot (Score:1)
Blue Durham
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fumbled by X4 - a true freshman.

wrong route ran by X5 - a true freshman

These and other mistakes will be minimized in time and experience.  No doubt though,  lot of very good freshmen with great potential on this team.

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November 8th, 2008 at 7:05 PM | Thank God for no 3-3-5 (Score:1)
matt D
Joined: 11/08/2008
MGoPoints: 240

As soon as I seen 4 in the box, I had at least a bit of hope. Sheridan.........what can you say, the kid was decent, his passing still isn't crisp, but a HUGE improvement from where he was the last time we saw him. On the other hand, Stonum is starting to be a big concern, the guy can't catch the damn ball. Good speed, poor hands - not a good combo. Shaw definitely needs to carry the rock more, he hits the hole with purpose and speed, from what I've seen in limited action he's been better than McGuffie

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November 8th, 2008 at 7:25 PM | Minor is more like Slaton, (Score:1)
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Minor is more like Slaton, McGuffie is more like Devine, and Shaw is kind of a hybrid between the two.

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November 8th, 2008 at 9:32 PM | HOPE! (Score:1)
ohiowolverine
Joined: 11/08/2008
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I was really anxious to see feagin in the game today, and thought he did a good enough job running the ball.  If they continue to let him play, which they should,  I think they are going to have to let him throw something.  The buckeyes will eat him up if all he does in run when he comes in.  All in all though I was moderatly encouraged by what I saw today and have HOPE for next season.

Does anyone know the deal with terrence robinson, I haven't heard much about him, just wondering if he is being red-shirted or got hurt or something?

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November 8th, 2008 at 9:52 PM | T-Rob is hurt (Score:1)
Jim Harbaugh Sc...
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(Hammy IIRC) a redshirt is in order.

http://twitter.com/#!/JHScramble

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November 8th, 2008 at 9:36 PM | Sheridarnit (Score:1)
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Sheridarnit . . . still bad, slightly less profane

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November 8th, 2008 at 9:57 PM | Northwestern (Score:1)
ohiowolverine
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So my question now is do we go back to Threet next week or stick with the sheidan/feagin combo from today.  If it was up to me I would say stick with what is working, even though it was only one game, but I have a feeling RR will go with threet if he is healthy, although he might have a very short leash.

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November 8th, 2008 at 10:14 PM | Quite A Week (Score:1)
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Wow, what a week!! I just keep on smilin'

 

Life should not be a journey to the grave to arrive safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What A Ride!" HST

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November 8th, 2008 at 11:15 PM | If CJ Bacher is still (Score:1)
jmblue
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MGoPoints: 26845

If CJ Bacher is still injured, we might possibly be favored.  If he's back, I doubt it.

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November 9th, 2008 at 3:08 AM | Sheridan + Feagin = Glimpse (Score:1)
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Joined: 10/20/2008
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Sheridan trying to force things and make plays beyond his capability = DEATH. Threet playing hurt and/or attempting a screen = DEATH. Sheridan w/ ball protection + Feagin >>>>>> a healthy Threet.

Today I applaud Sheridan and the entire team for playing a complete game, up to expectations given the talent and experience level.  Ok, so Sheridan and the receivers lucked out on a couple of throws that the gophers couldn't make a play on either.  So what? Should we all stoop down to Drew Sharp's level and use this victory to whine more about what could have been?  Instead, maybe this win should make us all settle down, step away from the cliff, put the razor blade down -- and ponder the exciting possibilities down the road (minus Threet, minus Sheridan, plus a real dual threat QB with Feagin in the slot where he should be). On defense I saw a lot of 4-2-5, which should be the BASE package, given the poor state of the linebacker play. Steve Brown and Charles Stewart are pretty scary at times, but you don't have to be Gsimmons to identify your best chance of success -- make the QB beat you while under pressure from front 4, and add a blitz here and there.  Of all the bitching going on about Rich Rod, Shafer, and rest of the coaching staff, the only hard evidence against them this season is their inability to recognize this weakness, and somehow think that a 3 man front is even an option, given their personnel.  I hate to speculate too much, but I wonder if the 3-3-5 scheme in the Purdue game was a temporary loss of faith in Shafer by Rich Rod, somewhat panic-induced by the mounting criticism he's been facing.

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November 9th, 2008 at 12:38 PM | a certain guy with the (Score:1)
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a certain guy with the initials of TB said basically the defense has turned off what Shafer has to say.

 

More or less shafer is in all likelyhood done after this year. 

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November 9th, 2008 at 3:01 PM | Uh, maybe I'm an idiot, but (Score:1)
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Uh, maybe I'm an idiot, but anyone want to tell me who TB is?

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November 9th, 2008 at 3:37 PM | I hope Tom Brady.  He's (Score:1)
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I hope Tom Brady.  He's dreamy.....

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November 9th, 2008 at 11:39 PM | I'm guessing (Score:1)
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Tom Beaver - he works for the Michigan Scout site.

http://twitter.com/#!/JHScramble

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November 9th, 2008 at 1:55 PM | People say... (Score:1)
WestCoastWolverine
Joined: 10/09/2008
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it was just Minnesota.  Don't diminish this win.  It was the first 4-quarter game the guys played all year.  It was on the road.  The D likely gained loads of confidence holding Minnesota to 183 total yards (yes, Decker was out but coverage was good most of the game).  The offense had one turnover but it's a far cry from the ND debacle.  Mentally, this is a HUGE win.

I checked out Tate Forcier in a high school game on Friday.  I could immediately tell that Forcier has the acceleration and top end speed to put a scare into the defense.  His arm is accurate and he throws really well on the run, but he does not have the zip of a Mallett or Henne.  He has a good rhythm for spread plays like the screen passes.  He made a couple jaw-dropping moves in the backfield while escaping would-be tacklers.  He did make a few questionable decisions on throws but spring and fall camp at Michigan will help him there.

I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.

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November 9th, 2008 at 2:05 PM | Also... (Score:1)
WestCoastWolverine
Joined: 10/09/2008
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I also want to point out that Forcier does try to do too much, which is probably the reason why he makes throws he shouldn't make.  Scripps Ranch High has a decent team but not a great one.  At Michigan, he can be a little more conservative and just get the ball to the plethora of playmakers.

I'm gonna take two weeks off, and then quit.

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November 9th, 2008 at 5:14 PM | Tom (Score:1)
Michigan Arrogance
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Beaver. he's only slightly less crepy than tom lemming.

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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November 9th, 2008 at 9:29 PM | Sticking with my plan! (Score:1)
TBG
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So,

I Tivo'd the game and went and coached little league baseball all afternoon.  Then came home and asked my wife how bad we got beat.  She said "I think you beat them by 2 touchdowns", but I was still apprehensive (never totally trust a Bama fan when it comes to college football.  Still.  I settled in (with remote and scotch in hand) and started to watch the game without the standard dread I've felt this year, regardless of what the M lead might be at half.  This was fun to watch!  Hope has now again returned!  I could see in this game where we are eventually going with RR, and it is a good place.  Still, I plan to TIVO next Saturday's game against Northwestern, and once again coach a couple little league games.  Once I get home, I'll again ask if the ooast is clear.  I hope it will be.

 

 

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November 9th, 2008 at 10:13 PM | nut shot (Score:1)
UofMDDS96
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Did anyone see one of our O-lineman punch a Minn Defender in the nuts when the Minn player was lying on his back after we ran the ball left?  I should have noted his number when I rewound it and watched  again, but no penalty called and announcers missed it.  Their guy had to have the trainers out. They cut to him the next play on the sidelines bitting on a towel!!

 

Columbus, your tears are delicious.

If aOSU played the Nazis. I would root for the Nazis!

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November 10th, 2008 at 1:05 AM | Ortmann (Score:1)
mooseman
Joined: 07/10/2008
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It was Ortmann. Hightower gave him a shot in the side and as Ortmann was getting up he nonchalantly gave him a bag tag. Injury timeout, Sheridan back in for Feagin, TD pass.

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November 9th, 2008 at 11:51 PM | Wierd little blurb... (Score:1)
Rush N Attack
Joined: 07/07/2008
MGoPoints: 517

from the Detroit News:

"Michigan played a 3-3-5 defense at Purdue, and defensive end Brandon Graham said players frequently told the coaches during the game that they preferred a four-man front. Their request was granted, and the switch to a 4-2-5 paid immediate dividends.
Michigan's defense dominated the first half as the Wolverines built a 16-0 lead. The Wolverines held the Gophers to just 2 yards per play and forced three-and-outs on six of their seven possessions, not including a kneel on the half's final play.

When Minnesota (7-3, 3-3) moved the chains for the first time midway through the second quarter, the Metrodome crowd gave a loud, sarcastic cheer.

"We just tried to take their spirit away," Graham said. "Obviously, it happened."

Minnesota's six points tied for the fewest Michigan has give up this year.

"I don't think we're going to have no more problems with the three-man front," Graham said."

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November 10th, 2008 at 12:35 AM | feels good. feels real good. (Score:1)
entirely reasonable
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nice and tight and that's allright.

let's go blue

"Play hard and with great effort"

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November 10th, 2008 at 12:41 AM | Thank you... (Score:1)
NYWolverine
Joined: 08/16/2008
MGoPoints: 303

Muppets...yes! Muppets. Yeaaaa...MUPPETS! This made my day.

E to the S Go Blue, Class of '04

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