Genuinely Sarcastic
Just in case any of you haven't reached for a gun to put into your mouth from the various postings on the Michigan coaching situation, you might want to pop over the Genuinely Sarcastic and read the latest post. It. Will. Blow. Your. Fucking. Mind.
Here's the link. You can't claim I failed to warn you.
http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.com/2010/11/attention-to-detail.html
November 30th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^
Here's a link, but you need rivals access. Some rivals guy named jizzard19
November 30th, 2010 at 1:09 PM ^
F'ING CLASSIC! Is he a J*zz Wizard or a J*zz Lizard?
November 30th, 2010 at 2:11 PM ^
Here we go, maybe:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:26 PM ^
This guy REALLY needs to change his screen name...
November 30th, 2010 at 4:39 PM ^
I'm sorry but it's a *HHHHUUUUGGEEEE* stretch to suggest that Threet and Co. were going to get it done on offense. The whole thing is far too speculative and plays the "what if" game to perfection.
Do you know for a fact Ron English would have been able to retain the kids on defense and the attrition wouldn't have been so deplorable AND our kids would have magically all been healthy? OK!!! Or that they would be infitnitely better than they are today? I'm sorry, but when I read "The Decimated Defense", I was pretty convinced you could have Bud Foster running that D and they still would have been awful. We just would have been doing it with "Michigan Men".
November 30th, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^
This comment in the article made me furious: "When Harbaugh says these kids couldn't get hired by the people who adulated them... he's right! You probably won't see Jeremy Gallon and Mike Shaw and Jake Ryan going to work for Wall Street banks and Chicago ad agencies and Detroit auto makers if/when they graduate." How anyone would have the audacity and meanness of spirit to so insult kids who are breaking their backs to help our football program is almost beyond belief.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:17 PM ^
I don't like some of the things that Harbaugh has said, but you are taking this quote from the author completely out of context. He's not blaming the students for this, he's blaming a school that pushes kids into sports degrees, which won't get them much of anything in a business world. His point is that if these kids have a career-ending injury, what does a "Sports Communications" degree get them in the real world?
November 30th, 2010 at 1:34 PM ^
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the section that calls out Gallon, Shaw, and Ryan by name isn't language verbalized by Harbaugh. It's from the OP who wrote the post at Rivals. And IMO, it's out of line.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:38 PM ^
I thought it was clear that the author thought those players were not worthy of being at Michigan on academic grounds.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^
You are correct that it is not from Harbaugh, and again are correct that it is quite out of line.
And actually now that I read the Rivals post again, it's actually this guy's friend who authored the piece. Jizzard19 (the Rivals guy) posted the email to the board, stating this was passed onto him from his buddy. It wouldn't be crazy, however, to assume that jizzard19 agrees with the sentiments made by his friend. If it were me, I would have made a blatant disclaimer distancing myself from the pathetic swipe at Gallon, Shaw, and Ryan, lest people think I, too, was a jerk who took shots at the players busting their asses on the field for their favorite school.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:45 PM ^
What about students that are not athletes that declare communications to be their major?
November 30th, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^
I saw that yesterday, and it's a repost from rivals. Man, does that thing call for a fisking. I know it's not a newspaper article, and just a post from a fan site, but it certainly paints a funny view of history. What did it for me was his thoughts on the games we should have won in 2008. I'm sorry, but even with an inside promotion, the talent on that roster wasn't going to win some of those games (PSU in 2008 was a monster).
Plus, DeBord had a track record as a head coach, and failed miserably.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^
with your assessment of 2008, but in the post's defense, he did say the pitch forks would be out for DeBord after a couple years also. So its not like hes painting some picture of a perfect world where RR doesn't get hired.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:56 PM ^
Actually, I threw in the DeBord item to point out that he wasn't going to get the job, which I should have added.
I also agree that the pitchforks would have been out for DeBord, but they were also out for RR the moment he stepped on campus.
What struck me most about that was his cherry-picking of facts and making up history to use it against RR.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:56 PM ^
I disagree with his assessment of the 2008 season and the character of our players, but this mostly sums up how I feel:
The scheme works beautifully. The execution all too frequently derails it.
I've been to the point where I don't care what happens to him. If he stays, someone teaches Denard to move the ball to the outside arm, and we get a new defensive staff, then I'm happy now and ecstatic when we win the Big Ten. If someone else comes in, keeps the offensive system, teaches fundamentals on offense, and puts in just as beautiful of a defense as we have on offense, then I'm happy now, and ecstatic when we win the Big Ten.
What I won't be able to handle is hiring someone who is going to wash away all the work that has been done on offense the last 3 years just because he is a "Michigan Man".
November 30th, 2010 at 1:03 PM ^
What I won't be able to handle is hiring someone who is going to wash away all the work that has been done on offense the last 3 years just because he is a "Michigan Man".
My sentiments exactly.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^
I really doubt that both Arrington and Manningham would have stayed, as the author first states as possible, and then flat-out assumes when claiming that DeBord would have led Michigan to a 7-5/8-4 record.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:21 PM ^
I thought that whole part of the article was ridiculous. Manningham was a early-draftee after he caught that pass against PSU. I think Arrington left because everyone including the coach and QB were leaving. I'm not sure either would have stayed with any coach.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:53 PM ^
Arrington's stock was pretty high after the display against Florida in the bowl game as well
November 30th, 2010 at 1:58 PM ^
I have a hard time believing his stock skyrocketed too much, considering he was picked in the 7th round.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:01 PM ^
Arrington left because he didn't want Threet throwing him passes to build his draft stock. If Mallett had been around, Arrington might have been around.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
Manningham was out the door, anyway, but I feel like Adrian Arrington would have stuck around for his senior year. He would have been the #1 guy, and the #1 guy at Michigan is almost assured of being taken in the top half of the draft (at least during the Carr years).
November 30th, 2010 at 1:46 PM ^
MM was gone, baby, gone, but it remains to be seen on AA. However, the author just assumes that both were staying after first speculating that one or both might have left. It's a pretty lame argument.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:11 PM ^
but Adrian and Mario had apparently made a pact to leave for the NFL draft together. Mario was going to be gone regardless of the coaches. Adrian would have come back but he probably didn't want to deal with Threet throwing the ball to him and having to learn a new offensive system.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:57 PM ^
...When he started with the alternative universe coaching scenario with Mike DeBord. After the horrors of that, everything else is a blur. Did I miss anything?
November 30th, 2010 at 12:57 PM ^
did i miss something about jake ryan?
November 30th, 2010 at 1:08 PM ^
Just someone unnecessarily trashing a kid that he has probably never met and knows nothing about.
I'd be interested to see this guy (I believe it was jizzard on Rivals) do a nice write-up on the borderline guys that Lloyd Carr managed to get into Michigan that all turned out to be bastions of Wall Street.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:14 PM ^
Your last sentence makes it clear that you either, didn't read it, or, failed to understand it.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
of a comma after the word "either." If you're going to police posts, please watch your punctuation.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^
My punctuation may have been wrong but my point is true.
November 30th, 2010 at 4:57 PM ^
His point was that JH takes a lot less fliers on questionable qualifiers than RR has in his first couple of years, yes? He may be right. But what a lame way of throwing kids that the author knows nothing about under the bus.
Also, I sincerely doubt that Stanford's entire roster is full of Academic All-Americans. Come on now.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^
Wow, there's so many, uh, creative? assumptions made in that article that it's almost (almost) as bad as a Freep article. I'm still in the give RR one more year on the condition that he clean house on the D staff.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:26 PM ^
One of the points of the article is that he mostly likely is not going to clean house. If that's the case, how do you feel?
November 30th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
I feel that's an awfully big assumption to make given what we know from Brandon at this point.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^
If you were in Dave Brandon's shoes and RR's plan consisted of firing Gerg and bringing in yet another DC to try to run the 3-3-5, what would you do with RR? I think it's an awfuly big assumption that he's going to be willing to fire a guy that has played and worked under him since Glenville State. If you don't fire him and you don't fire tall, you're only firing Gerg and Braithwaite. That doesn't sound like clearing house to me.
Don't get me wrong, if he's willing to clear house on defense, I'm all for that option, I just don't think it's going to happen.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
I want him gone if that's the case.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:04 PM ^
TOB used to be one of RR's staunchest defenders.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:09 PM ^
Everyone has a breaking point. And I almost will say that post/article has me teetering on the edge.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
I was teetering but now I'm more pro Harbaugh than pro RR.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
Geez. That was reasoned, rational and only slightly offensive (re: Gallon, Shaw comments). No doubt that Harbaugh is a great candidate for the job, if it's open. I shall now discontinue reading anything about coaching changes at UM unless it's a press release regarding the status of the HC position.
Out.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
Honestly, its really sad to see whats happened to Genuinely Sarcastic and TOB. I used to hold out hope that GS would turn into a new age RBUAS. TOB offered evocative writing that managed to express the emotions that so many of us were feeling but just couldnt put into words. And through the painful march through the last few seasons, it's like he got lost along the journey. Now he just sounds like a whiny bitch, on par with the freep, but without the raw malice of the freep. I'll still keep going to his site, hoping he can find his way - a dynamite 2011 would probably do the trick - but its still sad nonetheless.
November 30th, 2010 at 1:14 PM ^
I mean, is it unacceptable for someone to change their own opinion as more evidence is presented?
November 30th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^
IMO, when you start blockquoting page-long rivals posts (especially those by people who go by the handle "jizzard19") on your blog, which has sidebar status on Mgoblog and probably gets >100 hits a day, you've gone off the deep end.
November 30th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^
MGo is pro RR. I think it's ok to have a site with a differing opinion and, if he's lucky, 1/10th the readership.
November 30th, 2010 at 3:07 PM ^
I'm taking exception with him for taking internet rabble (i.e. a rivals board post) and passing it off for substance. If you want to have the prestige of hosting a blog with the visibility that his has, you should be more responsible than that.
November 30th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
His blog has that visibility because of him. With that being what it is then he can run it the way he likes.
November 30th, 2010 at 4:40 PM ^
TOB should do what he wants with his blog. People will determine with their clicks whether they agree with him or not.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:07 PM ^
I agree Lutha. I liked his Battle of Michigan series. But this Rivals repost had many problems. There were some interesting points, but the assumptions about how 08, 09 would go were baseless. Could Coach Rod have done things better in terms of the politics inside the AD, yes, absolutely, but they shouldn't be fatal errors. It doesn't change my opinion on Coach Rod being here.
November 30th, 2010 at 5:46 PM ^
Could Coach Rod have done things better in terms of the politics inside the AD, yes, absolutely, but they shouldn't be fatal errors.
If he made political mistakes inside the AD then they are fatal. If half of what that article stated is true then it is plain to see why Rosenberg and the MSM has gone after him the way they have. That is pure conjecture but the point holds true.